List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Growapair]

What would we be giving up to move up the order?

7 and CCJ. We are sending him home.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

What would we be giving up to move up the order?

Exactly, is the issue as it is only moving up 3 picks from 4 - 7 obviously.

If for example Ward is the target, what are we giving up to lock him in with one of Erasmus, Hobbs, Goater as being available. And then the added risk of Gold Coast taking him anyway, if they don't the phones can be worked on the night I guess.

It does seem however that more and more the top 10 is pretty much fixed before draft night. Most teams seem to know who everyone is taking.

 

[Tigerbob]

What would we be giving up to move up the order?

That I don’t know. Just that we have displayed interest in an earlier pick to get that A grade midfielder guaranteed.

 

[Cotchy9]

That I don’t know. Just that we have displayed interest in an earlier pick to get that A grade midfielder guaranteed.

Don’t hate it provided we’re not giving up too much. Desperately need to get a blue chip midfielder from this draft

 

[Coach_Required]

The little murmurings of us moving up have started. I see Adelaide's Pick 4 coming into our interest. Whether it happens of not I don't know for certain but I do know people at other clubs have mentioned it. I do see the Jordan Dawson trade maybe a point of interest here. Let's see what occurs, but I know Ward is someone we rate extremely highly. So do I. Would celebrate getting him.

Wonder if Adelaide & Western Bulldogs would be interested in the following:

We give picks 7 & 38* (2,109 points) to Adelaide for pick 4 (2,034 points)
We give picks 28 & 40 (1,106 points) to WB for pick 17/18 (1,025 or 985 points)

We try and at least get pick 38* from North for CCJ.

We end up with picks 4,15,17,26 & 44 (5,262 points) which is more than we have now.

Or we even throw pick 44 Collingwood's way for their 3rd rounder next season.

 

[fargothegreat]

Wonder if Adelaide & Western Bulldogs would be interested in the following:

We give picks 7 & 38* (2,109 points) to Adelaide for pick 4 (2,034 points)
We give picks 28 & 40 (1,106 points) to WB for pick 17/18 (1,025 or 985 points)

We try and at least get pick 38* from North for CCJ.

We end up with picks 4,15,17,26 & 44 (5,262 points) which is more than we have now.

Or we even throw pick 44 Collingwood's way for their 3rd rounder next season.

Not sure how 7 and 38 for 4 benefits Adelaide. They'd need to get their hands on 15 for Dawson to make the deal work.

It'd be something like 4 and 23 for 7 and 15.

 

[_RT_]

The little murmurings of us moving up have started. I see Adelaide's Pick 4 coming into our interest. Whether it happens of not I don't know for certain but I do know people at other clubs have mentioned it. I do see the Jordan Dawson trade maybe a point of interest here. Let's see what occurs, but I know Ward is someone we rate extremely highly. So do I. Would celebrate getting him.

I like it a lot.

 

[Mr Magic]

Wonder if Adelaide & Western Bulldogs would be interested in the following:

We give picks 7 & 38* (2,109 points) to Adelaide for pick 4 (2,034 points)
We give picks 28 & 40 (1,106 points) to WB for pick 17/18 (1,025 or 985 points)

We try and at least get pick 38* from North for CCJ.

We end up with picks 4,15,17,26 & 44 (5,262 points) which is more than we have now.

Or we even throw pick 44 Collingwood's way for their 3rd rounder next season.

Why give up 7 for 4?

May as well give up 15 for 4 and keep 7 using later picks.

Remember Bulldogs first is in play and we can help Adelaide get that if they want

 

[blaisee]

I think we need to sit tight on our picks.

We have heaps of them and I expect clubs to come running for them, draft night will be very interesting

 

[Mr Magic]

I think we need to sit tight on our picks.

We have heaps of them and I expect clubs to come running for them, draft night will be very interesting

Exactly I think a few WA clubs are getting keen chasing WA talent. Collingwood will probably want to get back in at some point desperately not to mention others.

On top of that if we are anticipating a rise in 2022 we really should be trading future picks back into this year to maximise any high end draftees of greater quality we can get

 

[SumTingWong]

That I don’t know. Just that we have displayed interest in an earlier pick to get that A grade midfielder guaranteed.

Who are the A grade midfielders guaranteed?

 

[tigerfan1961]

The little murmurings of us moving up have started. I see Adelaide's Pick 4 coming into our interest. Whether it happens of not I don't know for certain but I do know people at other clubs have mentioned it. I do see the Jordan Dawson trade maybe a point of interest here. Let's see what occurs, but I know Ward is someone we rate extremely highly. So do I. Would celebrate getting him.

It’s a given that we are looking to upgrade our picks Bob Will happen for sure but a lot to play out in the meantime with Chol, and CCJ for starters

 

[tigs2010]

Not sure how 7 and 38 for 4 benefits Adelaide. They'd need to get their hands on 15 for Dawson to make the deal work.

It'd be something like 4 and 23 for 7 and 15.

15 & 38 for 4 then

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

Who are the A grade midfielders guaranteed?

The two going to Collingwood & Norf seem fairly solid choices. Your right though, from there the risks of a B grader are there. Prefer to keep our two first picks as they are. Take best available as they are rated by list managers. Then hopefully get that Bulldogs pick, or if a player slips through into the early 20's we really want, look to upgrade one of our later picks for that to happen.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I would not be looking to trade our picks 7 , 15 , 26 , 28 but use 40,44 and picks we get for Cj & Chol 38 & 39 to get the doggies pick 17/19

This would give us 7 , 15 , 17 , 26 , 28

We could the possibly get to deal with Collingwood / Hawks on the night to perhaps gin their 2022 1st rounder for #17 + #28 to gain another top 6 pick in 2022 or can use the 5 picks this year.

I would rather use 5 picks this year as you may get a player at #26 that is better than a kid picked between 6- 15

7 - Erasmus / Ward
15 - Van Rooyen / Goater
17 - Van Rooyen / Goater / Andrew
26 - Van Rooyen / Goater / Long / Knevitt / Bazzo
28 - Van Rooyen / Goater / Long / Knevitt / Bazzo

 

[Infamy]

We give picks 28 & 40 (1,106 points) to WB for pick 17/18 (1,025 or 985 points)

Dogs need a lot more points than that to match the bid on Darcy and not go into arrears for next year as they need around 1700 points to match a bid at Pick 3. I'd be looking to package up 1700 points for their pick and they throw in a future pick for next year to balance it out.

 

[4tune8]

I would not be looking to trade our picks 7 , 15 , 26 , 28 but use 40,44 and picks we get for Cj & Chol 38 & 39 to get the doggies pick 17/19

This would give us 7 , 15 , 17 , 26 , 28

We could the possibly get to deal with Collingwood / Hawks on the night to perhaps gin their 2022 1st rounder for #17 + #28 to gain another top 6 pick in 2022 or can use the 5 picks this year.

I would rather use 5 picks this year as you may get a player at #26 that is better than a kid picked between 6- 15

7 - Erasmus / Ward
15 - Van Rooyen / Goater
17 - Van Rooyen / Goater / Andrew
26 - Van Rooyen / Goater / Long / Knevitt / Bazzo
28 - Van Rooyen / Goater / Long / Knevitt / Bazzo

I understand where you're coming from in bundling later picks to get another 1st rounder but geez you're generous.

38, 39, 40, & 44 equate to pick 7 points wise, I know we'll have to give a little value to the Dogs, but their pick could be 20 after the GF.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I understand where you're coming from in bundling later picks to get another 1st rounder but geez you're generous.

38, 39, 40, & 44 equate to pick 7 points wise, I know we'll have to give a little value to the Dogs, but their pick could be 20 after the GF.

Its just a guide but the best you can expect is to deduct #44
and swap that with a 2022 late 2nd if somebody is desperate giving us 2 x 1st and 2 x 2nd next year

But we would need to consider 2022 as well as this year with all these picks

 

[Mr Magic]

Its just a guide but the best you can expect is to deduct #44
and swap that with a 2022 late 2nd if somebody is desperate giving us 2 x 1st and 2 x 2nd next year

But we would need to consider 2022 as well as this year with all these picks

why would we need to consider 2022 with all those picks? If we can't get who we want this year yes, but we need the kids in now to develop them for the years ahead

I think there is a case to be a draft whore this year especially at the top end.

You have to provide hope thats real, and you need to refresh and rejuvenate to create belief and cause for a real upsurge going forward

Can't go half-hearted about it but a balance is needed.

The next premiership even if in 2022 will be a new period

 

[Football Tragic]

When can the pick trades occur? Is it before the draft or during it?

 

[Mr Magic]

When can the pick trades occur? Is it before the draft or during it?

both I think

 

[French Tiger]

I like it a lot.

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[sregit]

Dogs need a lot more points than that to match the bid on Darcy and not go into arrears for next year as they need around 1700 points to match a bid at Pick 3. I'd be looking to package up 1700 points for their pick and they throw in a future pick for next year to balance it out.

Agee 100%. We would need the Dogs pick 17/18 and their second rounder to give them the points required to secure Darcy.

 

[tigerfan1961]

When can the pick trades occur? Is it before the draft or during it?

Both

 

[sregit]

When can the pick trades occur? Is it before the draft or during it?

To get the dogs first pick any deals would have to be done prior to the draft. The same applies dealing with Collingwood as both Darcy and Daicos will be bid on very early, before we could do a deal on the night.