List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

Little Bit Dusty · Sep 24, 2021

With live trading, if there is only one player other than Horne, Daicos and Darcy that we want with pick 3(pushed back to 5), then we have a trade with Gold Coast lined up if that player is available.

If they get an offer for pick 3 from another team before the draft and ask us to better it, then we walk away.

richoplzbreed · Sep 24, 2021

Here's a rundown of our Drafting of KPF's:

Year Pick Player
2017: 20 Callum Coleman- jones (Ruck/Forward)
2014: 77 Reece McKenzie
2012: 33 Liam McBean
2011: 26 Todd Elton
2009: 19 Ben Griffiths
2009: 25 Dave astbury
2008: 8 Ty Vickery
2006: 13 Jack Riewoldt
2005: 24 Cleve Hughes
2004: 16 Adam pattison (Ruck/Forward)
2002: 12 Jay Schulz
1997: 2 Brad Ottens (was drafted as a ruckman)
1996: 6 (PRE_SEASON DRAFT) Birdman Brett Evans

Clearly we've been stingy as f@%k when it comes to using quality picks on KPF's. I'm tired of watching us draft small forwards and mids with our first pick. I still remember Solariums Wallace telling shifter Sheahan hopefully Tom Lynch is around for Richmonds first pick and lo and behold he was and we took Reece bloody Conca!!!! Corey Ellis, Ben Lennon, Daniel Roli, Jack Higgins the list goes on and on. We still have bundles of midfield kids like Dow, Ross, RCD, Martin, Cumberland who've barely had a crack at the seniors so we've got depth galore. Our KPF stocks are old man Riewoldt (33 yo), Tom Lynch (29yo) and maybe Samson Ryan (mind you he was drafted as a ruckman from the lions academy they passed on him and the frightening thing is he was almost 20 when we drafted him so not exactly a 17 yo who needs time to grow into his body he's now almost 21 so needs to be judged accordingly. Hey he was a project player and good luck to him if he actually plays 20-30 games as i can't see him being a 200 game player who kicks 500+ goals). Basically we have 2 old injury prone KPF's and no backup. Screw chancing the first pick on a midfielder when it's an even draft and most haven't played and won't get to be tested at a combine.

JYE AMISS 195cm 51 goals 14 behinds..... Now get him and he can replace Riewoldt and play with Lynch until it's time to replace Lynch. This draft is critical as ever for the Tiges... get it wrong and we're back to the bottom of the ladder whilst spending a fortune on Dusty and Lynch. Get it right and i reckon we can be a bloody good chance to win next 2 flags. using our first pick on a midfielder won't achieve much as we've already got plenty of young mids in the wings. If things go bad injury wise our forward line could end up FF Cumberland/ Nankervis. CHF Samson Ryan????? We need Jye Amiss who cares if he's rated at pick 10 he definitely won't be around at our second pick and screw trading for GC's pick 5 it won't be worth it. God looking at that list to think in 25 years we've only used one top 10 pick on a KPF and it ended up being bloody Ty Vickery. Time to invest in a long term KPF. As the above list shows... you get what ya pay for.... This is where Allan Jeans's shoe analogy comes in.....

Mr Magic · Sep 24, 2021

Little Bit Dusty said:
With live trading, if there is only one player other than Horne, Daicos and Darcy that we want at 3, then we have a trade with Gold Coast lined up if that player is available.

If they get an offer for pick 3 from another team before the draft and ask us to better it, then we walk away.

'these posters with little activity really make me wonder

4tune8 · Sep 24, 2021

Little Bit Dusty said:
With live trading, if there is only one player other than Horne, Daicos and Darcy that we want at 3, then we have a trade with Gold Coast lined up if that player is available.

If they get an offer for pick 3 from another team before the draft and ask us to better it, then we walk away.

Pick 3 will be pick 5 after the bids on Daicos and Darcy, Norf looks set to take Horne-Francis with pick 1, GWS with pick 2 could take Callaghan or Ward leaving GCS with pick 3 to take the one that GWS don't pick ie; Callaghan or Ward.
I'm sure that deals will want to be done with GCS and as you said it's important to not overpay.

richoplzbreed · Sep 24, 2021

Mr Magic said:
'these posters with little activity really make me wonder

Stop smoking cones if it gives you paranoia..... They could just be a Tigers fan starved of Footy like the rest of us. Maybe they're smarter than us and after reading a couple hundred repetitive nonsensical comments about : how salty is he..... Blah blah blah has a micropenis.... Castagna is good..... Umpires hate us.... Blah Blahs a campaigner..... He went to Melbourne Uni ya know...... and only stumbled on occasional post that actually was factual and interesting. I'm actually more sus on those with 50,000 comments.

Mr Magic · Sep 24, 2021

richoplzbreed said:
Stop smoking cones if it gives you paranoia..... They could just be a Tigers fan starved of Footy like the rest of us. Maybe they're smarter than us and after reading a couple hundred repetitive nonsensical comments about : how salty is he..... Blah blah blah has a micropenis.... Castagna is good..... Umpires hate us.... Blah Blahs a campaigner..... He went to Melbourne Uni ya know...... and only stumbled on occasional post that actually was factual and interesting. I'm actually more sus on those with 50,000 comments.

Don't need cones, I am a pretty chilled customer.

Another poster outed a fake poster about a week ago.

Wasn't even focused on you but since you get on the defensive and overeact...

not sure what is in the closet there...

do I even wanna know?

Do you even know what a KPP is?

Damo80 · Sep 24, 2021

Glenelg v sth Adelaide currently on 7plus.

Horne-Francis, Matt Roberts playing. And keeping an eye on Sam Skinner and Liam McBean for good measure...

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Little Bit Dusty · Sep 24, 2021

Mr Magic said:
'these posters with little activity really make me wonder

I don’t post much because as you can see from my post I’m just stating the obvious and not adding much value here. I usually just read other people’s posts and see what they’re saying about who the club could be targeting in the draft or trade period. I used to have another account on here years ago but it was using my old email and I couldn’t access it.

I’ll just refrain from posting haha

Damo80 · Sep 24, 2021

Watching this SANFL game thinking Horne-Francis has a slightly awkward kicking style. But then the more I've seen of him, the more I'm seeing a bit of Ben Cousins in the kicking action.

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Mr Magic · Sep 25, 2021

Little Bit Dusty said:
I don’t post much because as you can see from my post I’m just stating the obvious and not adding much value here. I usually just read other people’s posts and see what they’re saying about who the club could be targeting in the draft or trade period. I used to have another account on here years ago but it was using my old email and I couldn’t access it.

I’ll just refrain from posting haha

you can do what you like, does not bother me either way.

What annoys me though is when other clubs posters create fake Richmond ones and comment using them to push a agenda against our club, usually around trade time, to try and change a narrative and try an influence a decision within their ego's perspective

Little Bit Dusty · Sep 25, 2021

Mr Magic said:
you can do what you like, does not bother me either way.

What annoys me though is when other clubs posters create fake Richmond ones and comment using them to push a agenda against our club, usually around trade time, to try and change a narrative and try an influence a decision within their ego's perspective

That’s fair enough. Well I’m definitely a Richmond fan. I don’t know how I can prove that, but I think if you saw my other posts you would see that I don’t have an agenda.

Spluff · Sep 25, 2021

Little Bit Dusty said:
I don’t post much because as you can see from my post I’m just stating the obvious and not adding much value here. I usually just read other people’s posts and see what they’re saying about who the club could be targeting in the draft or trade period. I used to have another account on here years ago but it was using my old email and I couldn’t access it.

I’ll just refrain from posting haha

Don't worry about it - it was a good post. Some people on here can be a little prone to wild conspiracies.

crackertiger · Sep 25, 2021

In my view we have to pick up a premium midfielder in this draft end of story. We don't need anymore average grunt players we need inside or outside class. So I think trading up to pick 3 is a must. As long as we don't completely sell the farm and can keep an early 2nd round pick in the process. A simple swap of picks that works for both clubs Then trade up again with later picks.

cairo tiger · Sep 25, 2021

Horne Francis gun- dominated last night

Infamy · Sep 25, 2021

Tiger51 said:
If we were to upgrade to pick 2 or 3 we could agree not to not pick Darcy reducing the need for 1700 points

We could make that commitment, however even with Pick 3 it probably wouldn't be up to us to make a bid on Darcy.
It will all come down to North & GWS, North could bid on both and then have their #1 pick get pushed down all the way to Pick 3

Mr Magic · Sep 25, 2021

Little Bit Dusty said:
That’s fair enough. Well I’m definitely a Richmond fan. I don’t know how I can prove that, but I think if you saw my other posts you would see that I don’t have an agenda.

You don't have to prove anything just carry on.

The thing is newbies or profiles with little posts that pop up around trade time can be seen as red flags simply because of others have been proven to be carrying on skulduggery against the interests of Richmond or Richmond posters in the past whether they are actually effective or not.

Its not a personal thing its just the history of practices that have occurred online in the past picked up by those longer in the game

Dont_Argue · Sep 25, 2021

Wonder if there’s a scenario where we can trade up to 3 and grab Ward and still get Wanganeen-millera. Elite footskills is what we’re missing sadly.

Damo80 · Sep 25, 2021

Little Bit Dusty said:
That’s fair enough. Well I’m definitely a Richmond fan. I don’t know how I can prove that, but I think if you saw my other posts you would see that I don’t have an agenda.

And even if you were a covert oppo supporter, pushing an agenda that's not in the interests of the club - and it may shock you to hear this - it actually doesn't matter because the club isn't run via a BigFooty committee! [emoji23]

After all these years I'm still not sure if Mr Magic is for real. One way or the other, he's special, that's for sure!

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Bojangles17 · Sep 25, 2021

sregit said:
Father son

No he’s not would be NGA , can’t match top 20

DoItForCaptBlood · Sep 25, 2021

Little Bit Dusty said:
I’m just stating the obvious and not adding much value here.

Pretty much sums up 90% of posts on here!! Feel free to add your obvious rubbish with the rest of us.

Charlie Pannam · Sep 25, 2021

DoItForCaptBlood said:
Pretty much sums up 90% of posts on here!! Feel free to add your obvious rubbish with the rest of us.

90%!! that figure needs to head north

Rioli2Rioli · Sep 25, 2021

Damo80 said:
And even if you were a covert oppo supporter, pushing an agenda that's not in the interests of the club - and it may shock you to hear this - it actually doesn't matter because the club isn't run via a BigFooty committee! [emoji23]

After all these years I'm still not sure if Mr Magic is for real. One way or the other, he's special, that's for sure!

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Really ?? The Norf board are the ones who do the trades for their club apparently

AstuteTiger · Sep 25, 2021

For those who haven't seen the teams or where to watch the game, here's the info.

The match will commence at 1pm AWST / 3pm AEST and be broadcast live and exclusive on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
B: F. Gorringe, J. Busslinger, L. Michael
HB: J. Avery, J. van Rooyen, S. Gilbey
C: B. Hough, K. Dittmar, A. Jones
HF: K. Harbour, J. Amiss, L. Paton
F: E. Benning, L. Polson, J. Stretch
Foll: J. Broadbent, M. Johnson, J. Tunstill
I/C: O. Armstrong, K. Bevan, C. Bourne, R. Farmer, Z. Fleiner

Emerg: D. Curtin, J. Draper, G. Julian

SOUTH AUSTRALIA
B: Z. Becker, J. Parish, M. Litster
HB: A. Draper, O. Adams, B. O'Loughlin
C: L. Rayson, H. Harrison, N. Wanganeen-Milera
HF: C. Kennedy, L. Cooke, W. Spain
F: H. Lemmey, J. Lukac, I. Dudley
Foll: O. Steene, M. Liddy, S. Linke
I/C: A. D'Aloia, L. Grubb, H. Jackson, M. Michalanney, J. Owens

Emerg: C. Beecken, B. Calvett, H. Stagg, L. Whitelum

Two additional NAB AFL U19 Challenge matches are being worked through which will see the Allies (Tasmania, Queensland, Northern Territory) play for the first time.

Sunday October 3 – SA v Allies – Adelaide Oval, SA
Sunday October 10 – SA v WA – Thebarton Oval, SA

Due to the challenges surrounding the COVID situation across Australia and the current restrictions in place in Victoria, New South Wales and the ACT, boys from these states will not compete in NAB AFL U19 Challenge matches in 2021.

Wrenny · Sep 25, 2021

AstuteTiger said:
For those who haven't seen the teams or where to watch the game, here's the info.

The match will commence at 1pm AWST / 3pm AEST and be broadcast live and exclusive on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
B: F. Gorringe, J. Busslinger, L. Michael
HB: J. Avery, J. van Rooyen, S. Gilbey
C: B. Hough, K. Dittmar, A. Jones
HF: K. Harbour, J. Amiss, L. Paton
F: E. Benning, L. Polson, J. Stretch
Foll: J. Broadbent, M. Johnson, J. Tunstill
I/C: O. Armstrong, K. Bevan, C. Bourne, R. Farmer, Z. Fleiner

Emerg: D. Curtin, J. Draper, G. Julian

SOUTH AUSTRALIA
B: Z. Becker, J. Parish, M. Litster
HB: A. Draper, O. Adams, B. O'Loughlin
C: L. Rayson, H. Harrison, N. Wanganeen-Milera
HF: C. Kennedy, L. Cooke, W. Spain
F: H. Lemmey, J. Lukac, I. Dudley
Foll: O. Steene, M. Liddy, S. Linke
I/C: A. D'Aloia, L. Grubb, H. Jackson, M. Michalanney, J. Owens

Emerg: C. Beecken, B. Calvett, H. Stagg, L. Whitelum

Two additional NAB AFL U19 Challenge matches are being worked through which will see the Allies (Tasmania, Queensland, Northern Territory) play for the first time.

Sunday October 3 – SA v Allies – Adelaide Oval, SA
Sunday October 10 – SA v WA – Thebarton Oval, SA

Due to the challenges surrounding the COVID situation across Australia and the current restrictions in place in Victoria, New South Wales and the ACT, boys from these states will not compete in NAB AFL U19 Challenge matches in 2021.

Ah bugger I was tuning in to watch now but it's 3pm. Be interested in watching Draper, Amiss, JVR, Cooke, NWM, Hough & Avery.

Bird Man · Sep 25, 2021

AstuteTiger said:
For those who haven't seen the teams or where to watch the game, here's the info.

The match will commence at 1pm AWST / 3pm AEST and be broadcast live and exclusive on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
B: F. Gorringe, J. Busslinger, L. Michael
HB: J. Avery, J. van Rooyen, S. Gilbey
C: B. Hough, K. Dittmar, A. Jones
HF: K. Harbour, J. Amiss, L. Paton
F: E. Benning, L. Polson, J. Stretch
Foll: J. Broadbent, M. Johnson, J. Tunstill
I/C: O. Armstrong, K. Bevan, C. Bourne, R. Farmer, Z. Fleiner

Emerg: D. Curtin, J. Draper, G. Julian

SOUTH AUSTRALIA
B: Z. Becker, J. Parish, M. Litster
HB: A. Draper, O. Adams, B. O'Loughlin
C: L. Rayson, H. Harrison, N. Wanganeen-Milera
HF: C. Kennedy, L. Cooke, W. Spain
F: H. Lemmey, J. Lukac, I. Dudley
Foll: O. Steene, M. Liddy, S. Linke
I/C: A. D'Aloia, L. Grubb, H. Jackson, M. Michalanney, J. Owens

Emerg: C. Beecken, B. Calvett, H. Stagg, L. Whitelum

Two additional NAB AFL U19 Challenge matches are being worked through which will see the Allies (Tasmania, Queensland, Northern Territory) play for the first time.

Sunday October 3 – SA v Allies – Adelaide Oval, SA
Sunday October 10 – SA v WA – Thebarton Oval, SA

Due to the challenges surrounding the COVID situation across Australia and the current restrictions in place in Victoria, New South Wales and the ACT, boys from these states will not compete in NAB AFL U19 Challenge matches in 2021.

the stream is terrible

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