List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[bc27]

I can still see us trading up to pick 2 for Callaghan come draft night. If GWS are really that keen on Andrew, they can probably get him at 7.

1. Horne-Francis - North
2. Daicos - Collingwood - Bid matched
3. Darcy - Bulldogs - Bid matched
4. Callaghan - Richmond
5. Gibcus - Gold Coast
6. Hobbs - Adelaide
7. Ward - Hawthorn
8. Erasmus - Fremantle
9. Andrew - GWS

From what I've read, most seemingly think there are 9 kids in the top 2 tiers of the draft, which leaves us in a decent spot as we will have the 9th pick.
Tier 1: Horne-Francis, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan
Tier 2: Ward, Hobbs, Gibcus, Erasmus, Andrew

Personally I'm not convinced if GWS hold onto pick 2 (pick 4 after bids) they will take Andrew over Callaghan. If they don't, I think there's a decent chance Andrew get to us at 9. If that does happen, do you take Andrew as the best available or do you take a mid if that's seen as more of a need? I reckon they probably take Andrew as a R/F, not as if tall forwards aren't a need either.

Depends on whether we rate Callghan high enough above Hobbs to give up a future pick or one of other picks this year.
I’m not sure the difference between Hobbs and Callghan is a big enough gap to justify a trade.

 

[Calcium Man]

For every Watts, Patton, Boyd there's a Nick Riewoldt, Weitering, Kreuzer. Of course draft pics are chosen for need, not as a general rule but when needed.

I’m not sure what your point is in relation to mine. I’m saying you can’t pick and choose how good a draft is when you have good picks. All you can do is choose the best available talent and you should never force it or over think it, like it seems we did with Conca.

I wanted Balta, we got Bolton. I think I would have preferred to miss out on Bolton that Balta (different drafts but hypothetically) because good talls you build premierships around as a general rule. Great midfielders also, but they are generally the top 2 or 3 picked.

I’m not sure what your point is with Balta and Bolton? They were in different drafts and Balta (pick 25) was a higher pick then Bolton (pick 29).

I would disagree that you build premierships around good tall forwards. Cats, Dogs and Dees all had average ones in their premierships in recent history. You need top 5 talents like Petracca, Cotchin, Dusty, Oliver, Bont, Hodge, Roughy, Buddy etc…

You do need good tall defenders like Rance, Grimes, Lever, May, McGovern, Scarlett, Lake, Gibson etc…

 

[bananatigz]

Depends on whether we rate Callghan high enough above Hobbs to give up a future pick or one of other picks this year.
I’m not sure the difference between Hobbs and Callghan is a big enough gap to justify a trade.

If you could guarantee one of Hobbs/Ward will last to our pick I'd agree with you. I think it's fairly likely both will be gone.

 

[AstuteTiger]

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[Pomsta]

If you could guarantee one of Hobbs/Ward will last to our pick I'd agree with you. I think it's fairly likely both will be gone.

If that's the case would you prefer a Callaghan/Hobbs or Erasmus plus JVR?

 

[AstuteTiger]

Johnson looks like a key forward to me. Same height as Jack, 194-5cm, his cousin and a whole lot of key forwards.

18. Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/Western Australia)
Midfielder, 190cm, 78kg

The tall, balanced midfielder capped off an impressive bottom-age season with a standout WAFL Colts Grand Final. And Johnson’s rise continued in 2021, with the skilful right-footer making his senior debut in May, a week after a solid showing in the AFL Academy side’s loss to Geelong’s reserves. Johnson, who was WA’s best in the second U19 Challenge game in September, is tough, clean, clever in traffic, good in the air and looks to have plenty of upside

Dan says: Very impressed with his finish to the season, including two stellar U19s Championships matches. A classy addition to any on-ball brigade.

Jordan says: Could prove a very good get in the teens come draft night given his size, class, scope for improvement and skill.

Matthew Johnson with his medal after being named as WA’s best player Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

 

[Grrr]

18. Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/Western Australia)
Midfielder, 190cm, 78kg

The tall, balanced midfielder capped off an impressive bottom-age season with a standout WAFL Colts Grand Final. And Johnson’s rise continued in 2021, with the skilful right-footer making his senior debut in May, a week after a solid showing in the AFL Academy side’s loss to Geelong’s reserves. Johnson, who was WA’s best in the second U19 Challenge game in September, is tough, clean, clever in traffic, good in the air and looks to have plenty of upside

Dan says: Very impressed with his finish to the season, including two stellar U19s Championships matches. A classy addition to any on-ball brigade.

Jordan says: Could prove a very good get in the teens come draft night given his size, class, scope for improvement and skill.

Matthew Johnson with his medal after being named as WA’s best player Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Getting my players mixed up.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Amiss is very one dimensional. I don't quite see it as in a very early pick.

Bazzo would be a good defender to have developing, but I seem to be the only one around here who rates Miller and Biggy very highly. How many is too many on a list?

Depends on what is around at 26, 27 and 28. We have options. (I think we get 27 from Collingwood)

This is why I can't see us taking Schenslog. How many is too many ?

 

[Tigerbob]

Matthew Johnson for me at 7 (9) if Ward, Callahan or Hobbs are gone.

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Matthew Johnson for me at 7 (9) if Ward, Callahan or Hobbs are gone.

I sort of like the look of Gibcus at 7 if the those three mids are off the table. Seems to be the prototypical intercept defender.

Although id love to see more footage of Erasmus

 

[YeOldTiger]

18. Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/Western Australia)
Midfielder, 190cm, 78kg

The tall, balanced midfielder capped off an impressive bottom-age season with a standout WAFL Colts Grand Final. And Johnson’s rise continued in 2021, with the skilful right-footer making his senior debut in May, a week after a solid showing in the AFL Academy side’s loss to Geelong’s reserves. Johnson, who was WA’s best in the second U19 Challenge game in September, is tough, clean, clever in traffic, good in the air and looks to have plenty of upside

Dan says: Very impressed with his finish to the season, including two stellar U19s Championships matches. A classy addition to any on-ball brigade.

Jordan says: Could prove a very good get in the teens come draft night given his size, class, scope for improvement and skill.

Matthew Johnson with his medal after being named as WA’s best player Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Classy this kid. Tall and rangey with nice skills.

 

[Tigerbob]

I sort of like the look of Gibcus at 7 if the those three mids are off the table. Seems to be the prototypical intercept defender.

Although id love to see more footage of Erasmus

Gibcus would be a very good selection too. I am thinking a combo of Callahan/Ward/Hobbs/Johnson (I think Freo take Erasmus no matter what) and JvR with our first two picks would be sensation. A long term midfielder and a KPP would set us up for the rest of the draft.

 

[living_in_syd]

If there’s no combine this year, the draft is going to very hard to nail

 

[tigs2010]

Gibcus would be a very good selection too. I am thinking a combo of Callahan/Ward/Hobbs/Johnson (I think Freo take Erasmus no matter what) and JvR with our first two picks would be sensation. A long term midfielder and a KPP would set us up for the rest of the draft.

Thoughts on the second rounders?

 

[Mr Magic]

Looks pretty spot on.

Except Freo have the pick before West Coast and GWS before Gold Coast

I am not sure on Hobbs.

He can play, don't get me wrong, and that is obvious, others think he may slide regarding athletic traits. I looked at his four minute highlights and saw no use of the left foot. The other thing is he looks inside mainly, not sure where else he would play. If we got him we would have Graham, Hobbs and Prestia that are mainly inside mids and not really a lot of anything else. Thats a bit of a problem I think. If I had to choose between Johnson and Hobbs, I would pick Johnson because of his versatility, I would pick Ward ahead of both probably.

If Hobbs gets to our pick 15 I would pick him for sure.

Some think Saints might offer up pick 9. I would be in that if the case

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

JvR in my opinion is a forward and in my opinion, the best in this class. Think he will develop into a beast.

I would love him at 15.

Jack Darling / Oscar Allen were talked down prior to their drafts and JVR looks to be as well

Every time i have seen this kid play (on tv / Stream ) He just makes a difference and always has an imput playing foward or back
I think he is a foward but has been played down back which effected his range in the draft

If he is available at #15 - I would be spewing if we passed on him
Perfect Jack replacement give the kid #8 in 2023

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Van Rooyen is a ripper name too

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[beema limapep]

Except Freo have the pick before West Coast and GWS before Gold Coast

Semantics. We get our man (Hobbs).

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Depends on whether we rate Callghan high enough above Hobbs to give up a future pick or one of other picks this year.
I’m not sure the difference between Hobbs and Callghan is a big enough gap to justify a trade.

We attempted to get #4 from the Crows early in trade period so we must either be after Callaghan or Ward
Have to be Callaghan

 

[tigs2010]

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

**** I hope our fans don't do that shit lol

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

If you could guarantee one of Hobbs/Ward will last to our pick I'd agree with you. I think it's fairly likely both will be gone.

We will certainly have 1 of Hobbs / Rachale / Ward / Erasmus available at our pick #7 most likely Hobbs/Rachale

 

[Mr Magic]

Semantics. We get our man (Hobbs).

I added to my post, I have Johnson ahead of Hobbs due to his limitations

I think Freo will probably pick Erasmus

 

[tigs2010]

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eDPS has done a mock draft with us taking 5 picks. Roberts & Long going either side of our 5th pick.

I'd hope we go Erasmus over Hobbs if panned this way but overall looks pretty good for us.

 

[DeLaCon]

Matthew Johnson for me at 7 (9) if Ward, Callahan or Hobbs are gone.

Im a fan as well. hoping we could get him with our 2nd pick. Looks unlikely but if ward and hobbs are gone id go with johnson.

 

[RobsJourney]

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eDPS has done a mock draft with us taking 5 picks. Roberts & Long going either side of our 5th pick.

I'd hope we go Erasmus over Hobbs if panned this way but overall looks pretty good for us.

FMD I hope we don’t take a 186cm defender, last type we need right now.