List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Calcium Man]

Curious do you think if our 2020 side played against the 2021 grand final Demons team we would win ?

100%… Dees haven’t played a finals side like us at our best. A Brisbane side in a third straight finals series showing a weak underbelly, a slow cats team and a dogs team that had been to Tassie, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth, and has a shocking defence that was shown up all year.

4 years we’ve been at the top playing an extra handful of games every year and having shortened preseasons. On top of which we were premiers still less then 12 months ago the season finished so late, so our already shorter preseason was the shortest on AFL history. Add in 6x6 day breaks in first 12 matches including 3 in a row from rounds 3-5 when we started to get smashed by injury. That we were still in the hunt until lockdowns started again tells me we’re still a very good side and mentally we may just couldn’t keep going. An entirely understandable reaction. Even Michael Jordan needed a mental break.

 

[GoTigers2015]

Which one of Callaghan, Hobbs, Amiss, Erasmus or Andrews will we draft with pick 7?

The odds are pretty high it will be one of them, as in 8 out of the last 10 years we have drafted with our first pick a player with a surname ending in N or S.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Curious do you think if our 2020 side played against the 2021 grand final Demons team we would win ?

With a full list to choose from Bloody oath.
Soldo on Gawn
Nank on Jackson
Their fwd line we have them covered.
Our fwd line of Lynch/Jack & a bloke by the name of Dusty.
Lynch vs May-50/50
Jack vs Lever-Jack
Dusty vs-Doesn't matter they'll shit themselves.
They beat us this year because we were cooked.

 

[tigs2010]

There are going to be so many melts on both nights. In particular night 2. Can’t wait.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

There are going to be so many melts on both nights. In particular night 2. Can’t wait.

What about on this board?

 

[tigs2010]

What about on this board?

where else would people be melting?

 

[Tigers Time]

Curious do you think if our 2020 side played against the 2021 grand final Demons team we would win ?

We would’ve put them away before they got the chance to get a run on like they did against the dogs. Broke the Crows, broke the Cats & absolutely annihilated the Giants. Dees would’ve followed suit.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

where else would people be melting?

Norf Board when we Gil reads out.Pick #1.Richmond Football Club.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Which one of Callaghan, Hobbs, Amiss, Erasmus or Andrews will we draft with pick 7?

The odds are pretty high it will be one of them, as in 8 out of the last 10 years we have drafted with our first pick a player with a surname ending in N or S.

My preference there would be Callaghan or Hobbs from that list

I’m not sure we’d look at Andrew with our first BUT as we’ve said plenty of times best available and we can only guess what order Clarke and co top 9 is.

 

[Marcel Proust]

My preference there would be Callaghan or Hobbs

I’m not sure we’d look at Andrew with our first BUT as we’ve said plenty of times best available and we can only guess what order Clarke and co top 9 is.

Rachele has been likened to Toby Greene...

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Rachele has been likened to Toby Greene...

Sounds an exciting prospect.
Like the reports that he can play mid and not just a small/medium forward

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Interesting history if we keep our first 4 picks.(7/15/26& 28)


Historical Results for AFL Draft Picks 7, 15, 26 and 28

Year	Pick 7	Pick 15	Pick 26	Pick 28	Total Games	Total Goals	Total Votes	Combined Awards
1981	K Judge	G Linke			91	179	3	Prem: 1983
1982	B Lokan	C Herbert			90	40	16
1986	C Lindsay	A Wickham	D Pritchard	D Mansell	211	94	19	Prem: 1988, 1989, 1991
1987	D Davies	A Jarman	S Oliver	A Bishop	162	139	50	Magarey: 1997
1988	L Cameron	D Craven	D Regan	C Martin	314	125	76	B&F: 1993
1989	S Edgar	N Bower	A Carr	J Gibson	92	24	8
1990	D Hampson	A Harrison	D Hall	C Smith	6	1	0
1991	J Guard	K O'Dwyer	B Herrald	C O'Keefe	68	17	0
1992	W Hernaman	D Houlihan	M McKinnon	J Tape	208	70	14
1993	C Johnson	L McCabe	S Jurica	D Griffin	438	209	35	AA: 2002, 2004; Prem: 2001, 2002, 2003
1994	T Brown	S Camporeale	T Elliott	S Lewfatt	410	279	52	AA: 2000; B&F: 2000; Magarey: 2001; Prem: 1995
1995	B Edwards	D Wheildon	C Groom	N Trask	17	4	0
1996	B Lockwood	M Hudghton	T Notting	J Johnson	676	306	69	AA: 2001; B&F: 2001, 2005; AA40: 2008; Prem: 2000, 2001, 2002
1997	K Massie	J McKay	B Holland	R Jones	448	234	19	Prem: 2006
1998	J Carr	B Rawlings	M O'Brien	H James (f/s)	472	172	56	B&F: 2004, 2006, 2010; AA40: 2010; Prem: 2004
1999	D Roach	D Spriggs	S Doyle (f/s)	B Guerra	372	147	15	Prem: 2008, 2013
2000	L Angwin	S Wiggins	S Birss	S Greene (f/s)	233	86	2
2001	D Hale	B Brooks	A Rogers	M Powell	257	220	16	Prem: 2013, 2014, 2015
2002	A Mackie	N Smith	J Rivers	T Cartledge	487	120	15	AA: 2013; Rising Star: 2004; AA40: 2008, 2009; Prem: 2007, 2009, 2011
2003	K Tenace	T Chaplin	D McConnell	J Nash	331	37	9
2004	J Lewis	L Dunn	M Little	C Gibson	518	260	77	AA: 2014; B&F: 2014; AA40: 2015; Prem: 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
2005	P Ryder	T Varcoe	G Ibbotson	M Riggio	686	379	34	AA: 2017; B&F: 2017; AA40: 2015; Prem: 2009, 2011
2006	J Selwood	D O'Keefe	S Edwards	C Dawes	736	472	230	AA: 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018; Rising Star: 2007; B&F: 2010, 2013, 2014; AFLCA Young: 2008; AFLPA 1st: 2007; AA40: 2008, 2011, 2012; Prem: 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2017, 2019, 2020
2007	R Palmer	R Tarrant	B Meredith	M Motlop	318	151	16	Rising Star: 2008; B&F: 2016; AFLPA 1st: 2008; AA40: 2016
2008	D Rich	M Brown	J Post	S McKernan	443	265	45	AA: 2021; Rising Star: 2009; AFLPA 1st: 2009
2009	B Sheppard	C Howard	T Colyer	M Duncan	600	266	64	AA: 2020; AA40: 2019; Prem: 2011
2010	J Caddy	B Smedts	J Darling	R Lester	615	680	51	AA: 2019; AA40: 2018; Prem: 2017, 2018, 2019
2011	N Haynes	B Ellis	T Elton	F McInnes	400	87	43	AA: 2020; B&F: 2020; AA40: 2014, 2019; Prem: 2017, 2019
2012	O Wines	T Garner	J Viney (f/s)	T O'Brien	478	231	153	AA: 2021; Brownlow: 2021; B&F: 2016, 2021; Prem: 2021
2013	J Aish	Z Jones	Z Merrett	L Taylor	527	200	109	AA: 2017, 2021; Rising Star: 2014; B&F: 2016, 2019, 2021
2014	P Ahern	J Garlett	T McLean	D Viojo-Rainbow	148	83	4	Prem: 2016
2015	J Hopper	D Rioli	K Collins	L Partington	228	132	21	Magarey: 2019; AA40: 2021; Prem: 2017, 2019, 2020
2016	J Scrimshaw	J Gallucci	B Parfitt	P Lipinski	225	94	14
2017	H Clark	Z Bailey	L Ryan	S Taylor	252	164	8	AA: 2020; Prem: 2018
2018	B Smith	J Clark	R West	X O'Neill	123	54	15

 

[SumTingWong]

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There are going to be so many melts on both nights. In particular night 2. Can’t wait.

Why? Who are you hearing we might pick?

 

[Sir_Loin]

Curious do you think if our 2020 side played against the 2021 grand final Demons team we would win ?

when did they change the rules?

 

[Oshka]

Curious do you think if our 2020 side played against the 2021 grand final Demons team we would win ?

Dees with the new man on the mark rule. Us without it. They play more attractive footy, but I still maintain that our game plan was the most effective I have ever seen. The AFL changed the rules twice to disrupt it.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Curious do you think if our 2020 side played against the 2021 grand final Demons team we would win ?

Easily

 

[Mr Magic]

I said next year. My whole idea is about improving our draft position next year to get some more talls that are in short supply this year.

That makes little sense.

We are more deficient in mids and utilities.

Talls take longer so when your chasing them you look at other options, such as trades/FA otherwise your talking a mini rebuild

 

[Infamy]

" You don't see too many trades of future picks in the same round as clubs know it's risky and if they have a bad year with things like injuries could end up downgrading a pick rather than upgrading it. "

This was the post i replied to and was making the point that teams like collingwood dont have a choice to wait for organic picks and must trade in more picks to accelerate the rebuild 'RISKING THEIR FUTURE PICK' even if it goes bad
1 pick at 2 and another at 62 is not going to cut it.

You still are missing the point, I'm not talking about this from Collingwood's perspective, simply that you don't see many trades of future picks from the same round due to the risk involved in the trade itself back firing and resulting in a pick downgrade

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

You still are missing the point, I'm not talking about this from Collingwood's perspective, simply that you don't see many trades of future picks from the same round due to the risk involved in the trade itself back firing and resulting in a pick downgrade

Which is why our 6th pick is an interesting one. Sacrifice Cumberland / Biggie (assuming Stack gets signed), or trade this. I was thinking trade it to 2022, but this point is the problem. Straight 3rd swap with a team and we take the risk. They get a high 3rd this year (we are struggling to use), and we get a 3rd next (probably not as good). Or another thought is trade our 6th pick and future 3rd with a future 2nd back. Again we are overs but get another 2nd next year.
Then we keep all our current rookies too

 

[Infamy]

Which is why our 6th pick is an interesting one. Sacrifice Cumberland / Biggie (assuming Stack gets signed), or trade this. I was thinking trade it to 2022, but this point is the problem. Straight 3rd swap with a team and we take the risk. They get a high 3rd this year (we are struggling to use), and we get a 3rd next (probably not as good). Or another thought is trade our 6th pick and future 3rd with a future 2nd back. Again we are overs but get another 2nd next year.
Then we keep all our current rookies too

Certainly the risk is much lower if you are in the later rounds and especially if you are talking about picks that may not be used at all due to lack of list spots.
Even our trade last year of our 1st rounder into this year (which was already at the end of the 1st round) was only done on the night after seeing if any of the players we rated highly were available, I can't see that happening this year.

 

[blaisee]

There are going to be so many melts on both nights. In particular night 2. Can’t wait.

why brother ?

You reckon second night all picks will be tipped into 2022?

 

[sanaya]

Interesting history if we keep our first 4 picks.(7/15/26& 28)


Historical Results for AFL Draft Picks 7, 15, 26 and 28

Year	Pick 7	Pick 15	Pick 26	Pick 28	Total Games	Total Goals	Total Votes	Combined Awards
1981	K Judge	G Linke			91	179	3	Prem: 1983
1982	B Lokan	C Herbert			90	40	16
1986	C Lindsay	A Wickham	D Pritchard	D Mansell	211	94	19	Prem: 1988, 1989, 1991
1987	D Davies	A Jarman	S Oliver	A Bishop	162	139	50	Magarey: 1997
1988	L Cameron	D Craven	D Regan	C Martin	314	125	76	B&F: 1993
1989	S Edgar	N Bower	A Carr	J Gibson	92	24	8
1990	D Hampson	A Harrison	D Hall	C Smith	6	1	0
1991	J Guard	K O'Dwyer	B Herrald	C O'Keefe	68	17	0
1992	W Hernaman	D Houlihan	M McKinnon	J Tape	208	70	14
1993	C Johnson	L McCabe	S Jurica	D Griffin	438	209	35	AA: 2002, 2004; Prem: 2001, 2002, 2003
1994	T Brown	S Camporeale	T Elliott	S Lewfatt	410	279	52	AA: 2000; B&F: 2000; Magarey: 2001; Prem: 1995
1995	B Edwards	D Wheildon	C Groom	N Trask	17	4	0
1996	B Lockwood	M Hudghton	T Notting	J Johnson	676	306	69	AA: 2001; B&F: 2001, 2005; AA40: 2008; Prem: 2000, 2001, 2002
1997	K Massie	J McKay	B Holland	R Jones	448	234	19	Prem: 2006
1998	J Carr	B Rawlings	M O'Brien	H James (f/s)	472	172	56	B&F: 2004, 2006, 2010; AA40: 2010; Prem: 2004
1999	D Roach	D Spriggs	S Doyle (f/s)	B Guerra	372	147	15	Prem: 2008, 2013
2000	L Angwin	S Wiggins	S Birss	S Greene (f/s)	233	86	2
2001	D Hale	B Brooks	A Rogers	M Powell	257	220	16	Prem: 2013, 2014, 2015
2002	A Mackie	N Smith	J Rivers	T Cartledge	487	120	15	AA: 2013; Rising Star: 2004; AA40: 2008, 2009; Prem: 2007, 2009, 2011
2003	K Tenace	T Chaplin	D McConnell	J Nash	331	37	9
2004	J Lewis	L Dunn	M Little	C Gibson	518	260	77	AA: 2014; B&F: 2014; AA40: 2015; Prem: 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
2005	P Ryder	T Varcoe	G Ibbotson	M Riggio	686	379	34	AA: 2017; B&F: 2017; AA40: 2015; Prem: 2009, 2011
2006	J Selwood	D O'Keefe	S Edwards	C Dawes	736	472	230	AA: 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018; Rising Star: 2007; B&F: 2010, 2013, 2014; AFLCA Young: 2008; AFLPA 1st: 2007; AA40: 2008, 2011, 2012; Prem: 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2017, 2019, 2020
2007	R Palmer	R Tarrant	B Meredith	M Motlop	318	151	16	Rising Star: 2008; B&F: 2016; AFLPA 1st: 2008; AA40: 2016
2008	D Rich	M Brown	J Post	S McKernan	443	265	45	AA: 2021; Rising Star: 2009; AFLPA 1st: 2009
2009	B Sheppard	C Howard	T Colyer	M Duncan	600	266	64	AA: 2020; AA40: 2019; Prem: 2011
2010	J Caddy	B Smedts	J Darling	R Lester	615	680	51	AA: 2019; AA40: 2018; Prem: 2017, 2018, 2019
2011	N Haynes	B Ellis	T Elton	F McInnes	400	87	43	AA: 2020; B&F: 2020; AA40: 2014, 2019; Prem: 2017, 2019
2012	O Wines	T Garner	J Viney (f/s)	T O'Brien	478	231	153	AA: 2021; Brownlow: 2021; B&F: 2016, 2021; Prem: 2021
2013	J Aish	Z Jones	Z Merrett	L Taylor	527	200	109	AA: 2017, 2021; Rising Star: 2014; B&F: 2016, 2019, 2021
2014	P Ahern	J Garlett	T McLean	D Viojo-Rainbow	148	83	4	Prem: 2016
2015	J Hopper	D Rioli	K Collins	L Partington	228	132	21	Magarey: 2019; AA40: 2021; Prem: 2017, 2019, 2020
2016	J Scrimshaw	J Gallucci	B Parfitt	P Lipinski	225	94	14
2017	H Clark	Z Bailey	L Ryan	S Taylor	252	164	8	AA: 2020; Prem: 2018
2018	B Smith	J Clark	R West	X O'Neill	123	54	15

picks will get pushed back so won't be the 7th best player in the draft at pick 7, will be the 9th, etc. so its cool info just not relevant to ours picks

 

[fargothegreat]

I know a lot of experts have him sliding, but I'm still super keen on Ned Long with one of our second round picks. Smart, big bodied mid with high endurance.

The rumour earlier in the year was that we were trying to hide him a bit. I hope that is the case and we get ourselves a bargain.

 

[Sir_Loin]

I know a lot of experts have him sliding, but I'm still super keen on Ned Long with one of our second round picks. Smart, big bodied mid with high endurance.

The rumour earlier in the year was that we were trying to hide him a bit. I hope that is the case and we get ourselves a bargain.

you can’t hid players this day and age. But agree he’d be a great smokey

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Ned Long is a big big mid for an 18 year old if these FoxSports stats are correct

Ned Long (Northern Knights/Vic Metro, 193.3cm, 93.3kg)

I know he’s a mid but that’s kpp size

Anyone seen him play? I know a poster linked him to us months ago. There’s not much footage I can find on him