List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[blaisee]

Not sure why we threw in another future 3rd rounder though....

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that with one less pick in 2021, we have more list spot open, sign stack asap, eliminates the PSD threat rumored

also maybe we have something cooking with all these picks to move higher

here is hoping

 

[Barnzy]

Three picks in a row is very tantalizing.

I think we paid overs for Pick 27, but looking at next year, we may only take 3 selections (our first, North second and our second) so fair enough although, that pick is a good asset for future trading. Not totally happy or unhappy, but now can look forward to draft night with us being the big players.

Why would we only take 3 picks next year though?

There's just as much chance the team crashes and burns with age compared to resurges to finish top 4. So taking 3 picks after finishing mid table won't be a great look.

The value on the deal is bad either way IMO. But 3 picks in a row has some extra value to it I guess.

 

[RockJobster0312]

Definitely overs, but as others have said, having North’s future second and not having our future fourth - essentially 3 picks inside 36 - makes it more palatable. It also may be the price of doing business now, and giving ourselves maximum time to parley these picks into a better pick.

Teams like Essendon, St Kilda, Brisbane, Giants May all be willing to give us a first for a few seconds on draft night.

 

[BC9_]

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Wrong


Righto..

 

[RockJobster0312]

Why would we only take 3 picks next year though?

There's just as much chance the team crashes and burns with age compared to resurges to finish top 4. So taking 3 picks after finishing mid table won't be a great look.

The value on the deal is bad either way IMO. But 3 picks in a row has some extra value to it I guess.

8 top 30 picks in two years is a pretty good way to start to re-develop.

Other element is that as it stood, we wouldn’t have been using 40. So to add a future third to the deal is really - for us - trading two useable picks for 27. I know that’s taking a narrow narrative in that could pick 15+38/40 have moved us up to say, 11. But still, we could afford to somewhat overpay.

 

[Barnzy]

8 top 30 picks in two years is a pretty good way to start to re-develop.

Other element is that as it stood, we wouldn’t have been using 40. So to add a future third to the deal is really - for us - trading two useable picks for 27. I know that’s taking a narrow narrative in that could pick 15+38/40 have moved us up to say, 11. But still, we could afford to somewhat overpay.

You're right, either way it won't make much of a difference.

Just would've preferred future 4th to 3rd in the deal.

 

[TimmytheTiger]

Recruiting team just getting to bed early, with a final pick at 28. Can pack up shop just after midnight..

 

[RockJobster0312]

You're right, either way it won't make much of a difference.

Just would've preferred future 4th to 3rd in the deal.

Same. But we gave that to North Melbourne.

 

[Noidnadroj]

We paid a premium for that pic ...

Not really. We were a good chance to be ‘passing’ on pick 40 anyway given our list spots. And the future 3rd was another pick we may not be using. And having 26,27 and 28 is massive, as it allows you to select players far more strategically without being concerned another ream will chime in and ‘steal’ someone you want.

And finally, if by 26,27,28 there’s only 2 players we really like, then it will be easy to off-load 28 to a Carlton, Saints etc…. for a future pick if there’s a player they really like remaining on the board at 28, further strengthening our 2022 draft hand.

Great work Tigers !


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[tigerdan]

We can always use our 5th round pick next year if we have to but my guess is worst case we'll make 3 picks, then draft another in the psd.

There's always free agents to bring in and the chance of chol like refund if someone walks.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Why would we only take 3 picks next year though?

There's just as much chance the team crashes and burns with age compared to resurges to finish top 4. So taking 3 picks after finishing mid table won't be a great look.

The value on the deal is bad either way IMO. But 3 picks in a row has some extra value to it I guess.

It says to me we are not expecting a raft of retirements post-2022. So I think Jroo, Cotch and Edwards have probably indicated they’d like to play at least 2 more seasons.

If that’s the case, then at this very early stage there are not many obvious delistings post-2022 ….Aarts and Parker perhaps ? Then maybe Caddy. (Castagna is contracted for 2023).




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[Tzatziki_Man]

Let's cut off the wheeling and dealing now

Go to the draft with 7, 15, 26, 27, 28

So many gun Vic kids will slide this year because they haven't played much.

50% of the draft talent comes from Victoria.

Our recruitment department is the only area that hasn't been picked apart by opposition.

If we've done excellent research pick 26,27,28 could have an absolute gun in there like Fyfe.

 

[cotcha now]

Maybe we’re planning on taking a few on the pre season training for one spot and upgrading some of our rookie listed players next year. Surely list sizes will increase for next year anyway. I would’ve done the deal for 23 not 27 tbh

 

[SumTingWong]

Not sure why we threw in another future 3rd rounder though....

Nailed that one. Are you hearing anything else we might do?

 

[Tygrys]

Not really. We were a good chance to be ‘passing’ on pick 40 anyway given our list spots. And the future 3rd was another pick we may not be using. And having 26,27 and 28 is massive, as it allows you to select players far more strategically without being concerned another ream will chime in and ‘steal’ someone you want.

And finally, if by 26,27,28 there’s only 2 players we really like, then it will be easy to off-load 28 to a Carlton, Saints etc…. for a future pick if there’s a player they really like remaining on the board at 28, further strengthening our 2022 draft hand.

Great work Tigers !


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I'm hoping that too. Use four top 30 picks up to 28 and then offer it to the highest bidder. And then 2022 a first rounder and three 2nd rounders including a potentially very early one in North. If the cards fall our way it could be as many as 8 top 30 selections in 2 years. This is serious list regeneration we are talking about here.

 

[Coach_Required]

I really hope we aren't looking to move up the draft now we have 5 picks inside the top 30.

If the player we want at 7 isn't there as someone else has mentioned then we should definitely look at trading it for a 1st rounder next year and just taking our remaining 4 picks into this year's draft.

We could potentially trade both 1st rounders next year for King if he looks to be coming home.

 

[SleepingGiant]

I'm hoping that too. Use four top 30 picks up to 28 and then offer it to the highest bidder. And then 2022 a first rounder and three 2nd rounders including a potentially very early one in North. If the cards fall our way it could be as many as 8 top 30 selections in 2 years. This is serious list regeneration we are talking about here.

Spot on. This does also not include the potentiality of trading out players who won't be in our next flag window at the end of next year. Lets just say hypothetically Caddy, Arts, Broad, or someone mid to late 20's who is contracted like a Rioli has a massive year, you might be able to trade 1-2 of those for 2nd and 3rd rounders (obviously assuming very strong performance). Just before the titanic sinks to the bottom 4 of the ladder when our top 5 retire or become ineffective, we can trade out a fair few to front-end the rebuild again. This could allow us to literally only have to bottom out for 2-3 years at most as opposed to 5-7 traditionally. In addition to the above you could bring in a Tarrant or two to keep that last dance going if it had some 2023 juice (highly doubtful but you never know). There is just no way you can get enough of those top 5 draft pick game breakers without having a couple years near the bottom. You simply need them to contend.

 

[Tygrys]

Or on trade night we count down to our picks and there are multiple players on the table that other clubs really like. Then hello two first rounders and a North Melbourne very early second in 2022. Two first rounders, two years in a row. Wow it's like finding change on the sidewalk, there is no downside to this!

 

[living_in_syd]

Should asked for a future fourth back at a minimum

 

[DM#4]

I really hope we aren't looking to move up the draft now we have 5 picks inside the top 30.

If the player we want at 7 isn't there as someone else has mentioned then we should definitely look at trading it for a 1st rounder next year and just taking our remaining 4 picks into this year's draft.

We could potentially trade both 1st rounders next year for King if he looks to be coming home.

If that were the case, I hope we would ask the question with Brisbane if they were keen to move up the order and try nab their two late firsts this year and then trade one of those into 2022.

King would be a dream result in 2022.

 

[prodigy]

Excellent trade, a future third is a junk pick we won't use in 2022.
I wouldn't be shocked if we tried to trade up and get another pick in the first round.

 

[SA_Tiger11]

Got stiffy for draft night

 

[TigersRoar]

If we have 26, 27 and 28 I could see St. Kilda enquiring about our 28 for a future 2nd with a 'gentleman's agreement' that we don't bid on one of their NGA's if they're still on the table. May not be a bad result

 

[Dr Tigris]

How do you know that's to our advantage? Are Carlton not coming?

I don't know. It's a general point, not something specific.

Magic you are reading too much into internet banter. All I said was if we can make a trade and get ahead then do it. If not then don't.

And Carlton, well they'd possibly make a stupid trade, that's the joke.