List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

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[Wacky Tiger]

Can't wait for the melts when we trade up to 2 only to pick Hobbs anyways [emoji1787]


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[THE THIN MAN]

Wait until Draft Night, Shifter Sheehan manages to profile 70 odd players which do not have a single weakness in their game.

What are the odds Sheehan omits any review of Richmond players...

 

[tiger_tough]

What are the odds Sheehan omits any review of Richmond players...

Only because we'll pnly pick obscure blokes that weren't expected to go till late

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Callaghan would still surely be appealing to GWS though. Ward is 30+, Cogs has been cruelled by injuries. Taranto, Green, Hopper, Stone, Kelly, Bruhn, Callaghan. Gibcus makes a lot of sense for them as well, Davis is cooked and their only real KPD is Taylor. Which ever one GWS takes the other one will probably get taken by Gold Coast. Andrew might slide to the saints at pick 11

Either way.Andrew or Gibcus will be available too gws @ 7(9).
The question is.What we/crws or Haw are willing what else to give up.
We're in the box seat with 15.
Only question we have too ask ourselves is the gap between Callaghan and the next best mid worth an xtra pick?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Blair also said that the deal they offered to try and get Horne was a bit of fun on their behalf knowing full well that it wasn't going to get accepted. Of course we stated we were looking at getting into next years draft otherwise you just back yourself into a corner in terms of negotiating deals. If the fact that we have been trying and succeeded in trading up into the higher picks of this draft doesn't tell you that we're comfortable in what is on offer then I have no idea what will.

We can go on about this until the cows come home.lol
Let's see how it pans out.
4 this year
5+ next year.
Is my bet.

 

[sregit]

Van Rooyen worries me. I keep reading that the only reason that he is a first round draft candidate is that there is such a dearth of talent in key forwards this year. That in any other draft he'd be a second rounder. To be honest I wouldn't mind if we just go for mids this draft, even if it means trading out a pick and going hard next year with four selections in the top 30 in a draft supposedly overflowing with tall talent. Just concerned going for Van Rooyen has a touch of the Cleve Hughes about it.

Van Rooyen is not worth the risk as a first round selection. If we choose to take a tall early then it may as well be Gibcus, however, I’d rather we load up on midfielders first and then speculate on a tall later. This drafts is strong for midfield types and that is where the club needs to focus.

 

[juss]

Van Rooyen is not worth the risk as a first round selection. If we choose to take a tall early then it may as well be Gibcus, however, I’d rather we load up on midfielders first and then speculate on a tall later. This drafts is strong for midfield types and that where the club needs to focus.

JVR would be an excellent get at any of our picks in the 20s, but given he's a tall he's likely snapped up somewhere in the late teens.

 

[Lsta062]

Now’s our chance to address our midfield quickly with this year’s draft being a midfielder’s draft. Don’t want us going for KPPs in the first round unless Gibcus slips to pick 15. Our focus needs to be on taking midfielders. Let’s be honest, Bolton is probably the only young midfielder heading to Cotchin and Dusty’s level, meaning that we need to find a couple of star midfielders in our next generation.

All our other young mids haven’t shown many signs (pre and especially post-draft) that they will end up at that level, so relying on a genuine top midfielder to come from them is relying on a surprise.

Yes, we have a KPP issue as well (lost Astbury, Garthwaite, CCJ and Chol), but that can wait until a draft that has a lot of good KPPs at the top end. I already heard that next year’s draft has quite a few top KPPs, so maybe we can focus on KPPs then.

 

[DannyS]

Would be dissapointed to give up 2 first rounders for Callaghan. Great chance to snare 3 very good mids and 2 key posts. Good players grow with the environment around them. You don’t sell the farm for one player. Even 3 months ago players like Ned Long and Alex Lukic were talked up, now not even in some of the phantom drafts. Pick five good players and keep a pick or two for the rookie draft for a Nathan Freeman

Nathan Freeman

Age

30

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

or a left field pick.

 

[sregit]

JVR would be an excellent get at any of our picks in the 20s, but given he's a tall he's likely snapped up somewhere in the late teens.

I hope JVR is snapped up by someone else. On the footage I've watched of the WA side v SA X 2 and Geelong reserves v U19 Aust earlier in the season, I think Williams is the better player. I've stated a couple of times that JVR butchers the ball whenever he's under pressure. Loses his cool, shits his pants and turns it over. Williams on the other hand though appearing to be green, is hard at the contest, works hard and to my amateur eye looks to have way more upside.

 

[juss]

I hope JVR is snapped up by someone else. On the footage I've watched of the WA side v SA X 2 and Geelong reserves v U19 Aust earlier in the season, I think Williams is the better player. I've stated a couple of times that JVR butchers the ball whenever he's under pressure. Loses his cool, shits his pants and turns it over. Williams on the other hand though appearing to be green, is hard at the contest, works hard and to my amateur eye looks to have way more upside.

I haven't followed it much this year, usually would watch the national champs on Fox Footy, but interestingly JVR has dropped well down the order.
There was a time believe it or not where he was considered a top 5-10 pick in the last 18 months.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

I wouldn't be trading to get to 2.
There will be a great player at 7 (9). We will have a choice of Hobbs, Ward, Sonsie, Andrew, Johnson, Erasmus. Then at 15 we will have another multitude of choices. And then they can really speculate with X factor types at 26, 27 and 28.
We should not trade next year's first. Imagine if the injury gods curse us even more next year and we end up trading a top 5 pick?

 

[Mr Magic]

I wouldn't be trading to get to 2.
There will be a great player at 7 (9). We will have a choice of Hobbs, Ward, Sonsie, Andrew, Johnson, Erasmus. Then at 15 we will have another multitude of choices. And then they can really speculate with X factor types at 26, 27 and 28.
We should not trade next year's first. Imagine if the injury gods curse us even more next year and we end up trading a top 5 pick?

I am not worried about next years first so much. We do not know whats going to happen in the draft and we can trade futures so I am less attached it especially given our list profile.

I am thinking maybe there is another way.

If we got involved in a three way club pick shuffle.

Hawks get pick 2 , losing pick 5 and 24, we get pick 5, and pick 13, pick 24 losing pick 7 and 15 and future first , Giants get pick 7 and our future first. I have not worried about points but just threw this together and see if its fairly balanced. Then again are we better of staying put and keeping 7. I am more interested in getting a better pick from 15 than necessarily 7 to be honest so we can get a higher rated prospect at 11 or so

 

[Bojangles17]

Reading the mock draft , agree with earlier comments you’d be happy taking 5 picks from that . They had us losing 15 to trade up a few spots to get Hobbs. Strange thing is behind us hawks take ward and Freo Amiss. Now that’s gonna happen anyway so why would we lose a pick , I expect we get access to Hobbs at 7
Also like the idea of Jack Williams, looks perfect jack replacement

 

[Bojangles17]

I wouldn't be trading to get to 2.
There will be a great player at 7 (9). We will have a choice of Hobbs, Ward, Sonsie, Andrew, Johnson, Erasmus. Then at 15 we will have another multitude of choices. And then they can really speculate with X factor types at 26, 27 and 28.
We should not trade next year's first. Imagine if the injury gods curse us even more next year and we end up trading a top 5 pick?

Couldn’t agree more

 

[Mr Magic]

Reading the mock draft , agree with earlier comments you’d be happy taking 5 picks from that . They had us losing 15 to trade up a few spots to get Hobbs. Strange thing is behind us hawks take ward and Freo Amiss. Now that’s gonna happen anyway so why would we lose a pick , I expect we get access to Hobbs at 7
Also like the idea of Jack Williams, looks perfect jack replacement

Jack Williams is nothing like JR, lol, might be a bust to. Williams looks like a old school forward whereas JR is a leaper

 

[Thrillhouse!]

So if rachele, Andrew and gibcus all go before our first pick, that's our only real chance at grabbing ward? Also have Hobbs there.

Any chance those 3 go before our first pick ?

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[Cotchy9]

If Adelaide is keen on Rachelle like the reporters say, wonder if they’d do 7 and 26 for 4? Rachelle should still be there at 7, and they’re pick allows us certain access to one of Ward/Hobbs/Callaghan

 

[Bojangles17]

Jack Williams is nothing like JR, lol, might be a bust to. Williams looks like a old school forward whereas JR is a leaper

Maybe , looks to move a bit like josh Kennedy to me , I says a replacement anyways doesnt mean he needs to be a ruddy carbon copy

 

[Bojangles17]

If Adelaide is keen on Rachelle like the reporters say, wonder if they’d do 7 and 26 for 4? Rachelle should still be there at 7, and they’re pick allows us certain access to one of Ward/Hobbs/Callaghan

I honestly think Hobbs suits us best , we need a mid that rolls out of bed and gets 28 touches a game . He’s our man

 

[Mr Magic]

If Adelaide is keen on Rachelle like the reporters say, wonder if they’d do 7 and 26 for 4? Rachelle should still be there at 7, and they’re pick allows us certain access to one of Ward/Hobbs/Callaghan

I would not give up 26 for that.

It might come down to live trading when we, and others, know who is available at each early pick. The funny thing is for GWS if they want to get MacAndrew they need to trade from the get go so they are in a catch 22. Really, we and others, are helping them by trading with them for a lower pick to get McAndrew because they can always use pick 2 on McAndrew even if some see it as a reach

 

[sregit]

Jack Williams is nothing like JR, lol, might be a bust to. Williams looks like a old school forward whereas JR is a leaper

JVR has played a fair bit down back and is seen as a swingman. Williams more a KPF. RATHER Williams.

 

[sregit]

I would not give up 26 for that.

It might come down to live trading when we, and others, know who is available at each early pick. The funny thing is for GWS if they want to get MacAndrew they need to trade from the get go so they are in a catch 22. Really, we and others, are helping them by trading with them for a lower pick to get McAndrew because they can always use pick 2 on McAndrew even if some see it as a reach

I'd be very confident that multiple offers have already been made to BOTH GWS and GCS for picks 2 & 3 respectively but it's not in their best interests to do a deal this early. They'll just sit back and invite clubs to give their best offer whilst playing one offer against the other.

 

[Cotchy9]

I honestly think Hobbs suits us best , we need a mid that rolls out of bed and gets 28 touches a game . He’s our man

I fully agree. Callaghan is all class, but what’s the point of players like he and Bolton if there’s no one there to feed it out to them? Inside midfielder should be number 1 priority for us and Hobbs is the best in this draft class. Never has there been a bigger emphasis on winning clearances than right now with 6-6-6

 

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If Adelaide is keen on Rachelle like the reporters say, wonder if they’d do 7 and 26 for 4? Rachelle should still be there at 7, and they’re pick allows us certain access to one of Ward/Hobbs/Callaghan

I'd be happy with 4 & 33 for 7 & 26, if it guarantees us Hobbs/Ward