List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Roksman]

Can't see a scenario where Zac Taylor makes it to our 26, 27, 28.

Won't get passed the Hawks 2 picks in the early 2nd round.

 

[db26]

9 Hobbs, otherwise Ward
17 Sonsie/Goater (whoever slides)
28 Bazzo
29 Taylor
30 Another Tall forward prospect

Hobbs and Bazzo probably the 2 key players we need from this draft.

Hobbs has grown on me dramatically. After reading his supports and seeing his highlights, he reminds me of an Ollie Wines type and a little bit of Dusty getting out of traffic. You need players like this with a first round pick. I don't think Hobbs is just an accumulator.

The question is tho has he got X factor Hobbs and his kicking needs improvement.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

The question is tho has he got X factor Hobbs and his kicking needs improvement.

Hobbs distributes mainly by handball not by kicking...

 

[59Stanley]

Gee now I'm liking this Zac Taylor, will have to trust the recruiters know their stuff !

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Gee now I'm liking this Zac Taylor, will have to trust the recruiters know their stuff !

Same here actually.lol
15 too early?

 

[59Stanley]

Same here actually.lol
15 too early?

Maybe ToO as he is pretty small in stature and light weight. Plenty of others around that mark but his kicking is deadly. The jungle drums are beating that we really like the GWS academy product Fahey.

 

[Ctl]

Maybe ToO as he is pretty small in stature and light weight. Plenty of others around that mark but his kicking is deadly. The jungle drums are beating that we really like the GWS academy product Fahey.

He rated high for speed and endurance and has a great left foot, something we are lacking

 

[Charlie Pannam]

9 Hobbs, otherwise Ward
17 Sonsie/Goater (whoever slides)
28 Bazzo
29 Taylor
30 Another Tall forward prospect

Hobbs and Bazzo probably the 2 key players we need from this draft.

Hobbs has grown on me dramatically. After reading his supports and seeing his highlights, he reminds me of an Ollie Wines type and a little bit of Dusty getting out of traffic. You need players like this with a first round pick. I don't think Hobbs is just an accumulator.

Good mix. I’d fit Ned Long in with that last selection

 

[59Stanley]

He rated high for speed and endurance and has a great left foot, something we are lacking

Ctl is that Fahey or Taylor you are referring to ?

 

[Bojangles17]

Can't see a scenario where Zac Taylor makes it to our 26, 27, 28.

Won't get passed the Hawks 2 picks in the early 2nd round.

this is where we give the hawks the reverse wedgie and select him at 15

 

[Bojangles17]

Hobbs distributes mainly by handball not by kicking...

two words jak,,,clayton oliver

 

[Marcel Proust]

two words jak,,,clayton oliver

Oliver kicks doesn't he ?

 

[Mr Magic]

Essendon supposedly considering splitting pick 11 according to Fox.

"Recruiters believe the Bombers’ future second-round selection is up for grabs, while they could also be open to splitting their natural first-round selection (Pick 11)."

I would be interested in 11, what do they want?

 

[Mr Magic]

Same here actually.lol
15 too early?

too early for me

 

[Bojangles17]

are these dates firm

Round 1 on Wednesday November 24
followed by Round 2 onwards on Thursday November 25 ROOKIE

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Maybe ToO as he is pretty small in stature and light weight. Plenty of others around that mark but his kicking is deadly. The jungle drums are beating that we really like the GWS academy product Fahey.

Yep.Think the Fahey thing has been around awhile.Common theme with both Taylor & Fahey.Both are great kicks.If the emphasis is on kicking then if we can get another pick under 20 then use 15 on Fahey(if gws don't have enough points) and use 16-20 on Taylor.
26 & 27 for pick under 20.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Why would we give up 28 for a pick that is likely to be 30+ in 2022? Surely we would ask for more.... otherwise what's the point?

Which is why I also said in my post that you quoted "+ possible 2022 3rd rounder"

And the point is .... that it was based on the provision that we'd already got the 4 blokes we were directly targeting for our future list management needs, and that future 2022 2nd and 3rd rounders might address further needs we identify after we see 2022 play out on the field.

 

[Dr Tigris]

I hope we go deep this year in our picks - that is take all top 30 picks. Only trade up if we are confident we get a genuine star.

And if we get 5 mids then so be it. Simply build quality depth for the future

Don't reach for a tall just because they are 195cm+. A spud is a spud even if it is a large spud.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

I would be interested in 11, what do they want?

Pick 11 is 13 ?
This draft is really evening out by about then.
Their thinking would be we can probably get a good player in that 20-32 range so let’s try and maximise pick 11 and possibly trade into next year as well (2R).

It’s smart operating but as I’ve said previously hope we don’t help Dodoro get his way

 

[Damo80]

Oliver kicks doesn't he ?

His kicking was seen as a glaring weakness until the last season or so.

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[Grrr]

His kicking was seen as a glaring weakness until the last season or so.

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His draft notes say opposite, that he was an 'aggressive midfielder who propels the ball forward with his long boot.
30 out of 30 in the goalkicking at the combines.

I think the kicking thing was blown up because of his great handball game and the position he played. Inside mids who get their hands on the ball first often do have average kicking skills, especially those who did it from day one in the AFL where the time factor is cut in half. As he has adjusted to AFL his kicking has gone back to being pretty good.

 

[tiger_tough]

His draft notes say opposite, that he was an 'aggressive midfielder who propels the ball forward with his long boot.
30 out of 30 in the goalkicking at the combines.

I think the kicking thing was blown up because of his great handball game and the position he played. Inside mids who get their hands on the ball first often do have average kicking skills, especially those who did it from day one in the AFL where the time factor is cut in half. As he has adjusted to AFL his kicking has gone back to being pretty good.

He was the worst kick in the comp going inside 50 last year. Always had a long, good looking kick but missed the target too much. He's definitely improved his efficiency.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

His draft notes say opposite, that he was an 'aggressive midfielder who propels the ball forward with his long boot.
30 out of 30 in the goalkicking at the combines.

I think the kicking thing was blown up because of his great handball game and the position he played. Inside mids who get their hands on the ball first often do have average kicking skills, especially those who did it from day one in the AFL where the time factor is cut in half. As he has adjusted to AFL his kicking has gone back to being pretty good.

If you think back and watched much of him in 2020, and probably what Damo is referring to, his kicking/ decision making was abysmal. Slam it forward 50-60 metres sure, straight to defenders. Missed targets 20-30 m away regularly rushing kicks.

He cleaned it up this year though.

 

[Mr Magic]

Pick 11 is 13 ?
This draft is really evening out by about then.
Their thinking would be we can probably get a good player in that 20-32 range so let’s try and maximise pick 11 and possibly trade into next year as well (2R).

It’s smart operating but as I’ve said previously hope we don’t help Dodoro get his way

Dodoro, can be smart, we just need to be smart and confident the player whichever it is, if there is one, is worth any upgrade and loss of a second rounder for RFC or not. If not that's fine. Probably know more in the live trade.

Even a pick 15 and pick 28 for pick 9 might make more sense if it could be done with the Saints

If Knightmares latest phantom was to occur that would be Ward and Dobbs from 7 and 9

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

That’s pretty well my sentiment too , we need several young talented players IN , one player won’t be the salvation

If we only rate a few: eg. Callaghan and Ward then I’m fine going all in for them. That’s an IF of course.

We can bring guys in to train over summer and maybe by mid season draft we get a better look at how some kids are going.

Leaving two or three spots open could be a good idea, but I’ve said this many times with no response so I guess I’m in the minority.