List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[sregit]

Five picks in top thirty, two in first round. May not happen again for a while. Don’t give up any of them. Great chance to get JVR and Bazzo and three quality mids. They are there. Set up the club for the next 10 years if all the cards fall in place. Can then use following drafts for specific targets or player trades. All these pick swaps, live trading crap just confuses the focus on getting the 5 best possible players in. Just get it done Tiges.

Neither JVR or Bazzo are worth a first round pick. In a year where there are several quality talls they’d be lucky to be drafted. Why do people on this board keep raising their names? I know we have a need for talls, however, quality, not just because they’re tall. This is a midfielders draft. Both these kids, only 2 months ago were considered to be picks in the 30s to 40s. Now because there appears to be no other talls with exposed form they are elevated up the pecking order. JVR looks great in highlights but if you go and watch him in full games, you’ll notice when actually he was in a pressure situation he panicked and cooks his kicks, so badly they all grub along the ground. If we are to take one of the 2, I’d rather Bazzo but with our last pick.
if RFC have to take a tall I’d rather speculate on a player like Rentsch, I think he showed more potential than JVR but has had limited game time/exposure due to the season being halted.

 

[sregit]

My one worry about amiss is he can’t kick very far going off the vision 40m max yet very accurate

We do need key position players I’d prefer jvr/Williams forward then 7 on amiss

Getting excited now though

You are correct. 40 is his max.

 

[Tortured Tiger]

Basing it on what I’ve seen it’s just my opinion if you prefer them over others that’s fine we all have different views

The professional recruiters are saying how hard it is to assess kids this year coming off such little football so what hope do we amateurs have ??? Any opinions have very limited information to go on as kids can change so much over the last two years. The talent from this draft could look very different after some proper development and it will be interesting to look back again in three years time.

 

[Joey longshadow]

Five picks in top thirty, two in first round. May not happen again for a while. Don’t give up any of them. Great chance to get JVR and Bazzo and three quality mids. They are there. Set up the club for the next 10 years if all the cards fall in place. Can then use following drafts for specific targets or player trades. All these pick swaps, live trading crap just confuses the focus on getting the 5 best possible players in. Just get it done Tiges.

This

 

[Coach_Required]

We need to start talking up and leaking articles about how great Gibcus and Andrew are so other clubs try and beat us to the punch so it allows Hobbs to fall through.

 

[NZ_Tiger]

With so little exposed form this season our draft hand isn’t the boon some of you think it is.


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[DoItForCaptBlood]

With so little exposed form this season our draft hand isn’t the boon some of you think it is.


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Glass half full/empty really. The players are still there, just will mean there will less certainty with the selections.

Works both ways....might end up working in our favour having three picks in the late 20s. A couple of quality kids might slip through.

 

[fargothegreat]

With so little exposed form this season our draft hand isn’t the boon some of you think it is.


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That works both ways though. Whilst you might be more likely to get a dud with a top 10 pick than usual, you're also more likely to get a star with a pick in the 20s.

 

[fargothegreat]

Interesting Twomey said that we haven't spoke to Hobbs in 6 months ... Could be trying to hide our interest in him or he really is just a smoke-screen.

 

[tigs2010]

Crows linked to Sinn at 4 according to hawks board

We need to start talking up and leaking articles about how great Gibcus and Andrew are so other clubs try and beat us to the punch so it allows Hobbs to fall through.

Might be a stretch for Carlton to turn pick 25 into a top 7 pick. They're the only ones stupid enough to do it.

 

[Grrr]

Neither JVR or Bazzo are worth a first round pick. In a year where there are several quality talls they’d be lucky to be drafted. Why do people on this board keep raising their names? I know we have a need for talls, however, quality, not just because they’re tall. This is a midfielders draft. Both these kids, only 2 months ago were considered to be picks in the 30s to 40s. Now because there appears to be no other talls with exposed form they are elevated up the pecking order. JVR looks great in highlights but if you go and watch him in full games, you’ll notice when actually he was in a pressure situation he panicked and cooks his kicks, so badly they all grub along the ground. If we are to take one of the 2, I’d rather Bazzo but with our last pick.
if RFC have to take a tall I’d rather speculate on a player like Rentsch, I think he showed more potential than JVR but has had limited game time/exposure due to the season being halted.

Gibcus is quality.

 

[Grrr]

The professional recruiters are saying how hard it is to assess kids this year coming off such little football so what hope do we amateurs have ??? Any opinions have very limited information to go on as kids can change so much over the last two years. The talent from this draft could look very different after some proper development and it will be interesting to look back again in three years time.

Agreed. There will be plenty of kids in Victoria in particular that would have bolted up the draft ladder if they had been able to play regular football. There will be some good kids at later picks, but they might take a while to get going, many won't even get drafted. Cruel year on a lot of kids and those that have been around a few years will be the ones at the top of the draft pile. That doesn't always equate to AFL.

 

[sregit]

Gibcus is quality.

Yes I’d take Gibcus in round 1 but not JVR.

 

[tiger_tough]

Listening to Cal Towmey today at this stage it sounds like he thinks it'll go something like this -

1. Norf JH-F
2. WBD Darcy
3. GWS Callaghan
4. Pies Daicos
5. GC Big Mac
6. Adel Rachelle
7. Haw Ward
8. Freo Amiss
9. Rich Hobbs/Gibcus
10. Freo Erasmus/Gibcus

He said GWS is morelikely to bid on Darcy than Daicos who will go 3 or 4. Interesting that we hadn't spoken to Hobbs since April apparently and we have spoken to Amiss and Rachelle recently.

 

[Grrr]

Sorry. Miller, Biggie, Ryan.

But you are right, we are short on talls ( ).

But we do have some young ones.

Losing both Chol and CCJ sucks.

What we need is another good KPF. Next year. But if we trade for Green (or similar) not sure how we get that tall.

So yep, pick what we can. JVR at 15 (17). But if Hobbs or similar is there at our first pick take them.

I would have thought with no real proven talls other than Balta we need a key position player asap. If the best one in the country this year is available at our pick, why would you wait another year, and gamble on a later pick which quite often with talls are a gamble. Isn't it best available, and best for what you need the most. Gibcus fits both of those.

 

[AstuteTiger]

One week before draft night, here's my phantom tigers mock draft. I’m not including any possible trades on the night.
Decided on doing 3 options, this is purely based if a certain player has already been taken.

9 – Hobbs – Midfielder (183cm/80kg)
17 – Jacob van Rooyen - Forward/defender (193cm/91kg)
28 – MacDonald – Midfielder (184cm/77kg)
29 – Howes - Forward/midfielder (190cm/79kg)
30 – Knevitt – Midfielder (193cm/81kg)

9 – Gibcus - Key defender (196cm/87kg)
17 – Sonsie – Midfielder (181cm/77kg)
28 - Taylor - Midfielder (180cm/74kg)
29 - Knevitt – Midfielder (193cm/81kg)
30 – Clarke – Small Forward (179cm/70kg)

9 – Erasmus - Midfielder/forward (190cm/82kg) OR Johnson - Midfielder (192cm/81kg)
17 – Butler - Midfielder/forward (184cm/76kg)
28 – MacDonald – Midfielder (184cm/77kg)
29 – Howes - Forward/midfielder (190cm/79kg)
30 – Sheldrick – Midfielder (179cm/84kg)

 

[Dr Tigris]

I would have thought with no real proven talls other than Balta we need a key position player asap. If the best one in the country this year is available at our pick, why would you wait another year, and gamble on a later pick which quite often with talls are a gamble. Isn't it best available, and best for what you need the most. Gibcus fits both of those.

I agree. But don't reach. If we can get a player almost guaranteed to be B+/A grade, but a mid, take him. The talls this year are more speculative or good but not elite talents. So pick them where you think the value is.

There is no point using a pick on a player that you don't rate that high, just because 2 talls left the club via FA.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

With so little exposed form this season our draft hand isn’t the boon some of you think it is.


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True in a sense.
But we do have 5 chances of getting at least 1 right.
Some only have 1 chance.

 

[SumTingWong]

Interesting Twomey said that we haven't spoke to Hobbs in 6 months ... Could be trying to hide our interest in him or he really is just a smoke-screen.

I remember quite a while ago Tiger71 said were interested in a KPD and a winger with our first round picks. Gibcus + ??

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Interesting Twomey said that we haven't spoke to Hobbs in 6 months ... Could be trying to hide our interest in him or he really is just a smoke-screen.

Why speak to a kid who has a pic of lids on his wall

 

[RichoLedio]

Why speak to a kid who has a pic of lids on his wall

There'd be noone left to speak to if we went by that motto

 

[tigs2010]

Why speak to a kid who has a pic of lids on his wall

To make sure he’s not mentally challenged

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I remember quite a while ago Tiger71 said were interested in a KPD and a winger with our first round picks. Gibcus + ??

Debra?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

There'd be noone left to speak to if we went by that motto

I know I'd play for us for a few bucks less.
Good cap strategy.

 

[SumTingWong]

Debra?

Wot?