List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Moppey]

Rookie list. For one we don't have a pick after 28, doubt we will us 83.
We have a shot at the Premiership only if we have an injury free year. We can lose the odd player but if last year repeats we will have no chance.
So they will back their best side, with all the old players and cross fingers stay injury free.

There is still lots of room in our developing players. You mention lower league players as backup but RCD, Ross and to a lesser extent Martyn dominate the midfield in the VFL when they play. So would a lower league player do any better?

Agree with the key position backup, very thin. I'm hoping Balta plays CHF allowing Miller more games. That is wishful thinking and we will find out if Miller is up to it, otherwise we have Biggy. And that is it. So for sure we need to rookie a few 23-26 year old back ups. We don't even have a ruck in the VFL besides Soldo who might start there to get some game time and if we go with one ruck for a bit, and young Ryan.

So we do have a pick at 83 and the suggestion was we trade a late future pick for one this year at around 60.

The club so far has approached the coming season as a tilt at a flag. The whole idea of taking a few mature players is to give a bit of depth in case we get injuries in areas we have little or no depth unlike last year.

IYO there is still lots of room in our developing players but the fact is they have done very little to date an example of my worry is Jack Ross a player i know both of us like has totally stagnated after 30 odd games. RCD has managed just 9 games in 3 or 4 seasons? and while he shows some great glimpses he has not achieved much.

We have okay depth for midfielders and will get a good one or two at 15 - 28.
We have 0 key position backs or forwards besides Balta that are under 29!
How we could go past Gibcus at 9 is beyond me. Ward and Hobbs look okay but they are not screaming pick me like Horne-Francis or Callaghan.

Bazzo looks pretty good also as a tall but he could easily get snapped up. Amiss not so sure on, doesn't look that mobile but I could be wrong.
And talk about next year, we might go top 4 if things go well and our first pick may be about 18-20. Pretty sure the best talls will be gone by then next draft even if it is a good year for talls.

I have no doubt what so ever that clubs like us, Freo, Gws that have a top 10 pick along with a mid range first round pick will go best player available with their first and that will likely be mids.They can then take a bit of a gamble if they wish with their second pick but even then id be reluctant to not take best available with our second first rounder.
Even gcs list imo almost certain they will go best available and that will be a mid. While they have some real nice mids they are not exactly overflowing with them with Greenwood gone i count just 11 mids and i think a big ball winning one is a need.

will they take Gibcus not if they think a better rated mid will be there, their tall needs are not that severe and they can afford to wait for next years draft

Pick nine will be best available and imo will still be a mid we then have 17 26 27 28 to pick another mid and pick the eyes out of the remaining talls.
Just my opinion but a real chance JVR and Bazzo are there at 17 but there are a couple of mids who i rate really highly who could still be there at this pick.

I also think Darcy and Amiss are the only talls that will go top 10.

 

[fargothegreat]

Wasn’t there talk at one point that Cumberland wasn’t keen on the vaccine?
Maybe he’s quietly exiting the comp?

I hope not. He's not the only delisted player not to nominate, so may not be worth reading too much into. Rory Thompson was another one who didn't, and there were a couple of others I can't recall.

 

[Muddiemoose]

I hope not. He's not the only delisted player not to nominate, so may not be worth reading too much into. Rory Thompson was another one who didn't, and there were a couple of others I can't recall.

Yeah it would be a very strange way for things to play out if it was the case
I dare say everything will work out smoothly with our players who we plan on re drafting
Saints had the chance to match our bid on biggy when we drafted him and opted not to

 

[Karp3_dm]

Wasn’t there talk at one point that Cumberland wasn’t keen on the vaccine?
Maybe he’s quietly exiting the comp?

Na, it got confirmed he’s double vaxxed

 

[Sir_Loin]

I had a look, and most players that clubs have delisted and committed to rookie list have nominated for the national draft. Only a handful (including Cumberland) haven't.

What this means is that Cumberland's nomination will only be for the PSD/rookie draft, where as Biggy can be selected in any draft.

yeah was more interested in the Cumberland situation. That’s weird as ****

 

[fargothegreat]

Na, it got confirmed he’s double vaxxed

Are all our players now? I'm assuming no news is good news.

 

[fargothegreat]

yeah was more interested in the Cumberland situation. That’s weird as fu**

Shows he's loyal I guess. Either that, or he forgot to nominate

 

[The Mighty]

Shows he's loyal I guess. Either that, or he forgot to nominate

Or hasn't had interest from another club.

Biggie probably has had some seductive whisperings in his ear.

 

[fargothegreat]

Or hasn't had interest from another club.

Biggie probably has had some seductive whisperings in his ear.

Gold Coast has a spare list spot now. Talk is they're using it on Charlie Constable.

 

[richoatthedisco]

So we do have a pick at 83 and the suggestion was we trade a late future pick for one this year at around 60.

That would be a waste of time and a draft pick. With only 55 or so set to be drafted, pick 83 will come in to pick 55ish.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

Going with list numbers, if I have this right(??), Pickett, Miller, Stack, Parker ( or did Pickett get upgraded??) are rookies, with Colina as Cat b. We can only have 5 rookies with the one cat B.

So with Biggie and Cumberland, they all won't fit. This article explains rookie years on list and upgrading changes.

AFL confirms 2022 list sizes, tweaks rule for rookies

Any players in their third season as a Category A or B rookie will be eligible to spend another season as a rookie in 2022

www.google.com

 

[fargothegreat]

Going with list numbers, if I have this right(??), Pickett, Miller, Stack, Parker ( or did Pickett get upgraded??) are rookies, with Colina as Cat b. We can only have 5 rookies with the one cat B.

So with Biggie and Cumberland, they all won't fit. This article explains rookie years on list and upgrading changes.

AFL confirms 2022 list sizes, tweaks rule for rookies

Any players in their third season as a Category A or B rookie will be eligible to spend another season as a rookie in 2022

www.google.com

Senior lists can have 36-38 players with 4-6 Cat A rookies. Max 42 players all up + up to two additional Cat B rookies.

We've currently got 29 senior listed players and 6 Cat A rookies. If we use our five picks we'll then have 34 senior players. Then, before the rookie draft we upgrade two rookies (most likely Stack and Pickett) to fill our senior list and make room for Biggy and Cumberland to be redrafted as rookies.

Hope that all makes sense!

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

Senior lists can have 36-38 players with 4-6 Cat A rookies. Max 42 players all up + up to two additional Cat B rookies.

We've currently got 29 senior listed players and 6 Cat A rookies. If we use our five picks we'll then have 34 senior players. Then, before the rookie draft we upgrade two rookies (most likely Stack and Pickett) to fill our senior list and make room for Biggy and Cumberland to be redrafted as rookies.

Hope that all makes sense!

Cheers. But isn't Colina Cat b?

 

[Rubber Hips]

Wasn’t there talk at one point that Cumberland wasn’t keen on the vaccine?
Maybe he’s quietly exiting the comp?

Our Club stated that all mens and women listed players have had at least 1 jab and will meet the afl deadline for a fully vaxxed squad

 

[fargothegreat]

Cheers. But isn't Colina Cat b?

Yeah. Cat B rookies are separate and you can have up to two of them.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I remember quite a while ago Tiger71 said were interested in a KPD and a winger with our first round picks. Gibcus + ??

Callaghan hopefully

 

[Joey longshadow]

Nah. If your investing this much draft capital you wouldn’t pick a year when your drafting blind. We are missing the most crucial part of the picture, the last half of their final season.


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Every team is in the same boat ...it's a 50/50 bet ...last year we traded our first for one this year ...now people want to trade forward again ...at some point we are actually going to have to take some players

 

[SumTingWong]

Callaghan hopefully

I've been told it's Sinn

 

[fargothegreat]

I've been told it's Sinn

Imagine the melts if we use our first pick on a half back :O

 

[tiger_tough]

I think we should keep 1 spot open for ssp unless there is a big slider come draft night too good to pass up.

Otherwise trade out pick 28 for a pick next year providing we don't move up be packing up two earlier picks.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I think we should keep 1 spot open for ssp unless there is a big slider come draft night too good to pass up.

Otherwise trade out pick 28 for a pick next year providing we don't move up be packing up two earlier picks.

After trading 3 picks for 27?

 

[SumTingWong]

Imagine the melts if we use our first pick on a half back :O

Probably our second

 

[Marcel Proust]

, The 2 player combination i would love is Erasmus/JVR
and really liking the thought Goater and Long may also be available as well as Bazzo

Draft haul of
Erasmus
JVR
Goater
Bazzo

Thats just about rebuild done
JVR / Riewoldt
Bazzo / Astbury
Erasmus / Cotchin
Goater / Edwards

The 5 oldest players (outside of Tarrant )

Grimes. Martin. Cotchin. Riewoldt. Edwards...

Draft focus: Richmond

Holding five of the first 28 selections at this year's draft, the Tigers aren't short on options.

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[Lord of the Wings]

I'm hearing its Josh Sinn at our 1st pick regardless of Hobbs or Wards availability.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I'm hearing its Josh Sinn at our 1st pick regardless of Hobbs or Wards availability.

Fits the need for a wing potentially