List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Marcel Proust]

If we rate Sinn and don't think he'll be picked up until the low- mid 10's pick, then we probably should still use pick (7)9 on a player like Hobbs, Gibcus, Ward. Then trade our pick 15(17) and one of 20's picks for Essendons pick 11(13) and next years 3rd round to make sure we get Sinn.

Or alternatively trade our pick 7(9) for the Saints pick 9(11) and future 3rd round. That way we would almost certainly get Sinn and improve our draft hand for next year.

Twomey said sin. Will be taken pretty high apparently.

Iirc was laughing at talk of Sinn being on the board come lions pick 14

 

[Rich01]

Drafting Sinn is not really what the team needs and in no way should be reaching for him at 7.

Mansell, Short, Rioli, Stack are all fighting for the same spot. There is space on the wing potentially, but is a wingman exactly what the team needs?

At 15 is a different story, Sinn would be a good pick

Why would he be a reach at 7 but not 15?

 

[Sir_Loin]

Drafting Sinn is not really what the team needs and in no way should be reaching for him at 7.

Mansell, Short, Rioli, Stack are all fighting for the same spot. There is space on the wing potentially, but is a wingman exactly what the team needs?

At 15 is a different story, Sinn would be a good pick

I know he’s played a bit at half back but I think we would play him up the ground and possibly around the ball. His speed away from the contest is exactly what we need

 

[Marcel Proust]

I know he’s played a bit at half back but I think we would play him up the ground and possibly around the ball. His speed away from the contest is exactly what we need

Compare the Pair: Finn Callaghan / Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)

THE Sandringham Dragons have produced a great number of high-end prospects over the years, whether it be those who are touted from a long way out, or players who bolt into contention with undeniable form in their draft seasons. 2021 is no different, with line-breaking movers Josh Sinn and Finn...

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[NZ_Tiger]

I agree.Our only chance outside of being sh*t again to get A grade talent to replace Cotch/Sheds/Prestia etc is do whats needed this year while we have the capital.
Put it this way.In a normal draft we'd have 7/25/43.
This trade we'd have 2/26/28.

I also think this year more than any other having a mid season pick will be a massive free swing at any talent that slips through the draft.


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[Sir_Loin]

Compare the Pair: Finn Callaghan / Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)

THE Sandringham Dragons have produced a great number of high-end prospects over the years, whether it be those who are touted from a long way out, or players who bolt into contention with undeniable form in their draft seasons. 2021 is no different, with line-breaking movers Josh Sinn and Finn...

central.rookieme.com

hadn’t seen that. That’s a pretty good CV. Leadership skills too. I’d be pretty happy with him on our list

 

[Muddiemoose]

Sinn looks an exciting prospect but seems like lower ankle and hamstring Injuries are a factor
Slight concern given his biggest upsides are running and kicking

He’s still very young so it might be a moot point but still should be noted

 

[RichoLedio]

Sinn looks an exciting prospect but seems like lower ankle and hamstring Injuries are a factor
Slight concern given his biggest upsides are running and kicking

He’s still very young so it might be a moot point but still should be noted

Would have to get the doc who worked on Grimes onto it

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Sinn looks an exciting prospect but seems like lower ankle and hamstring Injuries are a factor
Slight concern given his biggest upsides are running and kicking

He’s still very young so it might be a moot point but still should be noted

Think notes should be sent out to all other 17 clubs.
Damaged Goods Do Not Touch

 

[tigerfan1961]

I’m a huge advocate for taking Sinn if we rate him that highly. The number of times over the years that a player touted at number 1 at the start of a year is overlooked early and turns out to be a star is a warning for me.
Pavlich a good example of a player we should have chosen, as he was talked up at the start of his U18 year, Franklin too, Darling too, there’s been plenty of them.
Yes, there’s been some great late bloomers like Bont and Dusty but if someone is rated as a possible pick 1 at the start of their last underage year, it generally means they’re a very good player.
A number of posters have said Sinn, Sonsie and another player who I can’t recall were all talked up as top 3 players. I’d take Sinn if we rated him as potentially the top pick.
The other thing being touted by many is selling the farm for pick 2. That’s madness if we give up 3 picks for one kid. We are positioned to draft potentially 5 good footballers and we have that number of spots on our list for a reason imo. Just go with what we’ve got and take the 5 choices.

 

[tigs2010]

I’m a huge advocate for taking Sinn if we rate him that highly. The number of times over the years that a player touted at number 1 at the start of a year is overlooked early and turns out to be a star is a warning for me.
Pavlich a good example of a player we should have chosen, as he was talked up at the start of his U18 year, Franklin too, Darling too, there’s been plenty of them.
Yes, there’s been some great late bloomers like Bont and Dusty but if someone is rated as a possible pick 1 at the start of their last underage year, it generally means they’re a very good player.
A number of posters have said Sinn, Sonsie and another player who I can’t recall were all talked up as top 3 players. I’d take Sinn if we rated him as potentially the top pick.

Will Brodie

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I’m a huge advocate for taking Sinn if we rate him that highly. The number of times over the years that a player touted at number 1 at the start of a year is overlooked early and turns out to be a star is a warning for me.
Pavlich a good example of a player we should have chosen, as he was talked up at the start of his U18 year, Franklin too, Darling too, there’s been plenty of them.
Yes, there’s been some great late bloomers like Bont and Dusty but if someone is rated as a possible pick 1 at the start of their last underage year, it generally means they’re a very good player.
A number of posters have said Sinn, Sonsie and another player who I can’t recall were all talked up as top 3 players. I’d take Sinn if we rated him as potentially the top pick.

Sort of makes sense taking Sinn if we indeed are targeting you know who next year.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Will Brodie

Surely he wasn’t rated pick one in his year?????

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Will Brodie

I'd laugh if he goes on and wins Freo's B & F.

 

[Grrr]

So we do have a pick at 83 and the suggestion was we trade a late future pick for one this year at around 60.

The club so far has approached the coming season as a tilt at a flag. The whole idea of taking a few mature players is to give a bit of depth in case we get injuries in areas we have little or no depth unlike last year.

IYO there is still lots of room in our developing players but the fact is they have done very little to date an example of my worry is Jack Ross a player i know both of us like has totally stagnated after 30 odd games. RCD has managed just 9 games in 3 or 4 seasons? and while he shows some great glimpses he has not achieved much.


I have no doubt what so ever that clubs like us, Freo, Gws that have a top 10 pick along with a mid range first round pick will go best player available with their first and that will likely be mids.They can then take a bit of a gamble if they wish with their second pick but even then id be reluctant to not take best available with our second first rounder.
Even gcs list imo almost certain they will go best available and that will be a mid. While they have some real nice mids they are not exactly overflowing with them with Greenwood gone i count just 11 mids and i think a big ball winning one is a need.

will they take Gibcus not if they think a better rated mid will be there, their tall needs are not that severe and they can afford to wait for next years draft

Pick nine will be best available and imo will still be a mid we then have 17 26 27 28 to pick another mid and pick the eyes out of the remaining talls.
Just my opinion but a real chance JVR and Bazzo are there at 17 but there are a couple of mids who i rate really highly who could still be there at this pick.

I also think Darcy and Amiss are the only talls that will go top 10.

I think Gibcus could go top 10 no problem.
As a matter of interest which mids do you like.

 

[AstuteTiger]

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[Rich01]

I believe our first pick will come from one of Ward, Sinn, Gibcus.

I think one of these and potentially two won’t be available at our pick.

The other consideration in this is that Goater now may be available with our second pick if Howes goes to GWS at 13 as speculated.

Gibcus and Goater would be a good balance. But in saying that, I’d want us to be picking a player at 7 that is going to have the most impact over their career, and that’s the job of the recruiters.

 

[Grrr]

Drafting Sinn is not really what the team needs and in no way should be reaching for him at 7.

Mansell, Short, Rioli, Stack are all fighting for the same spot. There is space on the wing potentially, but is a wingman exactly what the team needs?

At 15 is a different story, Sinn would be a good pick

Sinn looks like he could easily move into the midfield. Stack of class, time with the ball and a good build that will fill out. Nice pace as well which some of the more fancied earlier mids do not have. Our wings are average and could easily be upgraded in a year or so. I would rather Sinn at our first pick than some that have been mentioned on here because looks to have a big upside. And he is a left footer which bizarrely besides Cumberland we have none of.

 

[Put a Lids on it]

Id be ok with Sinn then Sonsie with our first two picks. Then chesser, taylor, macdonald, bazzo or aleer with later picks

 

[Marcel Proust]

Sinn looks an exciting prospect but seems like lower ankle and hamstring Injuries are a factor
Slight concern given his biggest upsides are running and kicking

He’s still very young so it might be a moot point but still should be noted

Wasn't he talked about top3 prior to the injuries?

We may never have got a look at him otherwise. Might be a good risk

 

[YeOldTiger]

Sinn looks an exciting prospect but seems like lower ankle and hamstring Injuries are a factor
Slight concern given his biggest upsides are running and kicking

He’s still very young so it might be a moot point but still should be noted

Yep, I've mentioned it a few times over the last few months on this thread. 18yo speedsters who tear hammies and miss 8 weeks is a red flag for me. I'm sure if the club wants to draft him they will do their due diligence medically. The kid oozes talent but he's gone from being top 5 at the start of the year to late first rounder. Why ?

 

[fargothegreat]

I’m a huge advocate for taking Sinn if we rate him that highly. The number of times over the years that a player touted at number 1 at the start of a year is overlooked early and turns out to be a star is a warning for me.
Pavlich a good example of a player we should have chosen, as he was talked up at the start of his U18 year, Franklin too, Darling too, there’s been plenty of them.
Yes, there’s been some great late bloomers like Bont and Dusty but if someone is rated as a possible pick 1 at the start of their last underage year, it generally means they’re a very good player.
A number of posters have said Sinn, Sonsie and another player who I can’t recall were all talked up as top 3 players. I’d take Sinn if we rated him as potentially the top pick.
The other thing being touted by many is selling the farm for pick 2. That’s madness if we give up 3 picks for one kid. We are positioned to draft potentially 5 good footballers and we have that number of spots on our list for a reason imo. Just go with what we’ve got and take the 5 choices.

Sinn, Sonsie and Chesser are the three that haven't really been able to live up to their potential this year. With the volume of picks we have, we've got the luxury to target these type of players because it's not going to hurt us as much if one doesn't come off.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Yep, I've mentioned it a few times over the last few months on this thread. 18yo speedsters who tear hammies and miss 8 weeks is a red flag for me. I'm sure if the club wants to draft him they will do their due diligence medically. The kid oozes talent but he's gone from being top 5 at the start of the year to late first rounder. Why ?

The experts seems to be saying he is top10

 

[fargothegreat]

Yep, I've mentioned it a few times over the last few months on this thread. 18yo speedsters who tear hammies and miss 8 weeks is a red flag for me. I'm sure if the club wants to draft him they will do their due diligence medically. The kid oozes talent but he's gone from being top 5 at the start of the year to late first rounder. Why ?

He did put on a fair bit of size quite quickly. Could that cause a few injuries?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Would say 0 mate
Too much talent to pass up to get through til 26

Brisbane with 2 late picks would pounce as best available imo and no way Hawthorn would let him get past 21/24. If we want Sonsie it’ll be at 15 (17)

Will be interesting to see who's in the board come 26.

Cheeser would be handy if sonsie is gone as expected ...