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Maybe our future 3rd round for their future 3nd roundIf Callaghan is still available at pick #3 it wont be GC coming to us but we well be going to them with probably another 5 clubs
Dont think anything will be coming back in that trade - Maybe pick #97
Brisbane sure wouldn't do that.Who would trade pick 28 and our future 2nd for brisbane pick 14 and their future 3rd?
Would give us 7,14,15,26,27 with probably the loss of a pick in the 30s in 2022, plus the gain of a pick in the late 40s.
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Who would trade pick 28 and our future 2nd for brisbane pick 14 and their future 3rd?
Would give us 7,14,15,26,27 with probably the loss of a pick in the 30s in 2022, plus the gain of a pick in the late 40s.
Well you need to consider that from the other side of the fence in a scenario such as this.I really like the fact that you are suggesting pick 28 and not 26 which seems to be the default pick that so many posters seem to choose.
However, I am concerned about trading away next years 2nd rounder. It's been a long time since we are going into a season so unsure as to where we are going finish. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if we finished either top four or bottom six. I just hope that if we did this it's because we really rate this draft because my inclination is with our three picks in a row and with the bountiful number of quality talls next year, is to trade into the 2022 draft and not out of it.
Plus to be honest it's a lot more fun death riding someone than being death rided yourself. But yeah suggesting 28 as opposed to 26 makes the idea far more palatable.
Very good chance Johnson is gone by pick #17 would be extremely surprised if he lasts past Eagles pickMy hope is that we go Hobbs at 7. Johnson is still available at 15.
That is two quality mids wrapped up.
Then hope Sonsie, Butler or Taylor is available at 26,27,28 and take one of them. Other two picks go KP.
On the basis of they haven't beaten anyone of note then we better not draft a single kid from Victoria either given they haven't beaten anyone of note either, in fact you could suggest that they should be rated much lower than the WA/SA kids who at the very least got to play full seasons as well as playing games against each other.
I would like these players from our first 5 picks
7 Josh Ward (VIC) or Neil Erasmus (WA)
15 Van Rooyen (WA)
27 Josh Fahey (NSW-ACT)
28 Jack Williams (WA)
29 Ned Long (NT/VIC)
Very good chance Johnson is gone by pick #17 would be extremely surprised if he lasts past Eagles pick
Sonsie Taylor and butler again would be a surprise to see any still n the board at our #26 (#29)
I would be Happy if we had a choice of MacDonald , Knevitt , Brown , Warner & Sheldrick types
Clearly?Heard yesterday that Erasmus was clearly the
Rumours out of WA today that Hawks picking Johnson at 7.
Which future 2nd? We have two as we also have North's future 2nd from the Tarrant deal.Who would trade pick 28 and our future 2nd for brisbane pick 14 and their future 3rd?
Would give us 7,14,15,26,27 with probably the loss of a pick in the 30s in 2022, plus the gain of a pick in the late 40s.
My hope is that we go Hobbs at 7. Johnson is still available at 15.
That is two quality mids wrapped up.
Then hope Sonsie, Butler or Taylor is available at 26,27,28 and take one of them. Other two picks go KP.

Well you need to consider that from the other side of the fence in a scenario such as this.
Which team is likely to approach the other team ? Surely it would be the Tigers as the Lions would have multiple clubs calling
F2 would most likely become pick #30+ so that would be #30+#31 (after FS/Academy this year)
If the roles were reversed and you know Tigers hold a pick 2 picks prior the answer would be NO unless its your better pick
Maybe our future 3rd round for their future 3nd round
Bucky's rankings, LOL @ Ned Moyle (50) who has already been drafted.
1. Jason Horne-Francis
184cm, 78kg, South Adelaide/South Australia, midfielder
I like this lad and I think he is an ideal pick up for the Kangaroos. He is a midfielder with very few weaknesses. He has been playing senior SANFL football and looks to be a genuine future A grader once he reaches that 21-plus age bracket — an age when you eventually rank these players on your list rankings. I think he could have an immediate impact in the same way as Matt Rowell, but let’s hope he has better luck on the injury front than the Gold Coast midfielder.
2. Nick Daicos (Coll father-son)
183cm, 72kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro, midfielder
The Kangaroos could nominate Daicos and force Collingwood to pay more in points, but
regardless the Magpies will want to lock him away. He looks to have star qualities and is a real playmaker who has dominated football at a junior level. He looks certain to become a future A grader and the Pies will have spent a lot of time ensuring they have points required to secure him.
3. Josh Gibcus
195cm, 84kg, GWV Rebels/Vic Country, tall defender
I like the way Josh goes about his football. He is an intercept marking defender who reads the play well and has good athletic ability. He is still a bit raw but I feel he has so much upside and can improve to become a very good defender. He reads the play well, shows great anticipation and his ability to judge the ball in flight should allow him to become that intercept marking defender that is highly sort after in today’s modern game.
4. Sam Darcy (WB father-son)
204cm, 75kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro, tall utility
Get excited Bulldogs fans, Sam Darcy is a very exciting prospect. Like many players he has had to put up with limited football over the past few years, but the son of Luke shows some fantastic signs. The Bulldogs can expect an early bid on Sam and they will match it to secure him. The club has been blessed with some talented father-son selections over the years and it is great to see these young players come through and don the jumpers of their fathers.
5. Finn Callaghan
189cm, 82kg, Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, balanced midfielder
Finn is an ideal modern midfielder with a good combination of speed and endurance. He should develop into a powerful midfielder who will win the inside ball but also prove dangerous with his outside speed. He is a very clean by hand and by foot, so I expect he will be very high on clubs’ talent flow lists. He looks to be a player of the future and I will be surprised if he is not a top 10 selection.
6. Josh Ward
181cm, 79kg, Northern Knights/Vic Metro, midfielder
Josh is a hardworking player who competes hard inside and works hard outside. He accumulates possessions and creates opportunities for players outside. I see him as a genuine footballer with footy smarts — a playmaker who can be damaging with the ball by foot because he generally makes good decisions to advantage his teammates. He will give his all and make a good fist of any opportunities that he gets so I don't believe he will be a player who has regrets.
7. Ben Hobbs
183cm, 80kg, GWV Rebels/Vic Country, inside midfielder
Ben is another inside mid who has shown a great ability to compete with a fierce capacity. Although he had an interrupted start to the year, his numbers on return and that fierce competitiveness will surely have impressed recruiters. Any club looking for a hard-nosed future inside mid will have Ben high on the inside midfielder list.
8. Neil Erasmus
188cm, 80kg, Subiaco/Western Australia, midfielder
Neil is arguably WA’s best prospect. He has proved to be a very good midfield playmaker, but he could also prove to be a dangerous mid-sized forward. He has some exciting athletic traits and has a bit of an X-factor about him. I am sure recruiters will take a long-term view of Erasmus. He still has a bit of development to come physically and in football terms, but the potential is there for sure.
9. Josh Sinn
186cm, 82kg, Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, defender/midfielder
I think Josh will develop into a nice rebounding defender in time as he has good speed and is a good penetrating kick that will make him dangerous coming off half back. These types of players are highly sought after in the modern game as they can turn defence into attack very quickly. I am sure Josh will be highly regarded in this draft because he certainly brings some nice traits to the table for clubs to consider.
10. Mac Andrew
200cm, 70kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country, ruck/tall utility
Mac certainly is a bean pole at present but he has shown great improvement to play key position roles as a defender and forward as well as in the ruck. He is a Melbourne next generation academy player, but given the rules he will be not available for Melbourne to take. He shows some wonderful traits but he will take time. Clubs will need to take a long-term view with Mac but players of this size and athleticism are very hard to find.
11. Josh Rachele
180cm, 78kg, Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country, forward/midfielder
Josh looks to be a player of enormous potential, a real footballer with a touch of class in everything he does. He is a playmaker and he can also provide spectators and recruiters with some special moments. He has a bit of on-field presence and carries himself with confidence and belief in his abilities to impact games. I like him and I will be surprised if he is not a first-round selection.
12. Matthew Roberts
183cm, 81kg, South Adelaide/South Australia, midfielder/forward
Not many players can come out of under-18 football and skip reserves, play league football (SANFL) and look really comfortable at that level. I think Matthew will be well thought of because he has shown that ability to adapt from a junior level to senior level without looking out of place at all. He needs to tidy up his disposal by foot but I feel he will be able to address this at the AFL level with a good development coach. He finds the footy and this is important and having played that senior SANFL level gives him a good grounding.
13. Tyler Sonsie
181cm, 76kg, Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro, midfielder
Tyler is a very neat midfielder with a touch of class about him. He reads the play very well and is a goalkicking midfielder who finds good positions forward of the contest. He can get caught going back the other way at times as he looks to be that playmaker. But he anticipates very well and uses the ball well. I am sure clubs will look at him closely as a classy midfielder or even in time as a rebounding defender off half back.
14. Jye Amiss
195cm, 85kg, East Perth/Western Australia, tall forward
Jye is a nice key forward prospect of the future and his form over 2021 has seen him definitely push up into top 20 calculations. He reads the play coming forward well, he has good anticipation, he has a good set of hands in marking contests and he converts well in front of goals. So there is a lot to like about him from what he showed in 2021. Key forwards are hard to find, but there are areas he needs to improve such as his agility at ground level — this is where a club’s development program can put the polish on him. Hopefully the injury sustained late in the year will not disrupt him too much for his preparation in 2022.
15. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
188cm, 70kg, Glenelg/South Australia, outside mid
What a combination — Wanganeen & Milera. Nasiah has been a bolter in 2021 and has already played senior football. He shows some magic and looks ready to become an AFL player. He has all the moves and can break apart a game with his brilliance. I think he can become a very good player as he matures but there are areas of physical development, game craft and maturity to come — so he will need a good program put in place with a bit of patience from the club that calls out his name on draft night.
16. Arlo Draper
185cm, 71kg, South Adelaide/South Australia, midfielder/forward
Arlo is a classy midfielder who can also make his presence felt playing forward. He has played senior SANFL football and is another talented South Adelaide player coming through. He is a smart footballer who reads the play well, has a quick-thinking footy brain and is a playmaker who rarely wastes the ball. So, I would expect that he should be a top 25 selection.
17. Josh Fahey
186cm, 76kg, GWS GIANTS Academy/Allies, medium defender
Josh is a very well balanced and composed player and a typical left footer who uses the ball
extremely well. He looks a great prospect in the future for GWS as an academy player. He
has unfortunately had a disjointed season due to Covid-19 but he has played some senior
football already and has looked comfortable at that level. I would expect the Giants to ensure he is on their list for 2022.
18. Zac Taylor
180cm, 74kg, Calder Cannons/Vic Metro, small midfielder/forward
Zac is a ball magnet who works extremely hard and he looks to be a real competitor who has a great combination of speed and endurance. Although he will need to add strength to his frame, I think he will develop into a very good midfielder/forward in time. He also has good footy smarts and rarely wastes a possession which is a great trait. I am sure he will be a top 25 player in this draft.
19. Jacob van Rooyen
194cm | 88kg, Claremont/Western Australia, tall forward/defender
Jacob is an interesting player as he has already played senior WAFL football but a bout of glandular fever knocked him around. He is a nice mover and is a strong player with neat skills so he will have admirers. He will be able to be a swingman type who plays back or forward so I would think a lot of clubs will like this about him.
20. Matthew Johnson
193cm, 80kg, Subiaco/Western Australia, midfielder
Matthew is the ideal modern midfielder who possesses a good combination of speed, endurance and skill by foot, especially with some good football nous. He has played senior WAFL football and would have played more if it had not been for an injury. He is probably going to be a top 20 player but he could be snapped up earlier and it will not surprise me if he is. He does look a good prospect coming out of the west.
21. Connor Macdonald
193cm, 80kg, Dandenong/Vic Country, midfielder
Connor is a goalkicking midfielder who has good skills and finds the ball well. He is a good competitor and is a great size for the modern midfield. He works extremely hard in games and is a dangerous player because he hits the scoreboard as a midfielder. He is sure to have a lot of clubs looking at him closely and I am sure he will be a top 30 selection.
22. Campbell Chesser
186cm, 83kg, Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country, outside midfielder/defender
Campbell is an outside midfielder or rebounding defender who possesses good speed and can break the lines. He also has good kicking skills so he is the ideal developing rebound defender to bring into a club. He certainly has shown these traits and he does like to take the opposition on and this will be a trait that clubs like to see in a young player. I am sure Campbell will be a top 30 player.
23. Jack Williams
195cm, 91kg, East Fremantle/Western Australia, tall forward/defender
Jack is a potential key forward or defender and although he was used in the ruck at WAFL Colts’ level, he would need to grow another five or six centimetres to play ruck in the AFL. He is a nice size and is quite mobile so he will have admirers. But Jack will take time so some patience will be needed and a good development program put in place. He showed some good signs in the academy game when playing against the Geelong VFL side.
24. Josh Goater
190cm, 79kg, Calder Cannons/Vic Metro, midfielder/defender/utility
Josh is another modern-day midfielder type who is a clean ball handler. But it will be his impressive athletic traits that will allow him become a hard-running tall midfielder who is comfortable winning the ball inside or outside. In time, I think he will become a handy utility player who is capable of playing anywhere. I expect Josh will have plenty of clubs looking at him on draft night.
25. Blake Howes
190cm, 79kg, Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, forward/outside midfield
Blake is a similar prospect to Josh Goater with his impressive athleticism and that 190cm-plus size. He has a good leap and good skills, so I expect he will have plenty of clubs looking closely at him. Like many NAB league players over the past few years the lack of continuity in his football has not been ideal, but he did become one of Sandringham’s prime movers in 2021 when they played.
26. Leek Alleer
196cm | 85kg, Central Districts/South Australia, key defender
Alleer has really come on in 2021 and played down back at senior level for Centrals. He is typical of a tall young player because he is a later developer and I think his rate of improvement will get better in a full-time AFL environment. I am sure clubs will have noticed his rise and although he is a couple of years older, he is still in a development stage and his size will make him an interesting discussion point for clubs looking for a future intercepting tall defender. (Who is not looking for one!)
27. Hugh Jackson
181cm, 70kg, North Adelaide/South Australia, midfield
Hugh has impressed with his ability to find the footy and make something happen when he has the ball in hand. He is a nice prospect of the future but he will need to develop his body. So I expect clubs will be looking at the typical three-year development program for him in the AFL system. He does have the quality to become a future A-minus or B grader so I will be surprised if he is still there after pick 30.
28. Rhett Bazzo
195cm, 81kg, Swan Districts/Western Australia, key defender/forward
Rhett has certainly shot to prominence after his key defensive game earlier this month for Western Australia against South Australia. He showed very good composure and was able to provide WA with good rebounding football as well as bringing other defenders into the game. He is a nice size and looks a future key defender or forward — but he still has a way to go and will need time.
29. Toby Conway
204cm, 90kg, Geelong Falcons/Vic Country Ruck
Toby is one of the best young ruckmen in the draft and he is mobile around the ground so he does look like a good prospect as a developing ruckman in this draft. I am sure clubs that are looking to bolster their ruck stocks for the future will be mindful these types of players are hard to find.
30. Tom Brown
186cm, 71kg, Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country, defender
Unfortunately for the Cats, Tom does not qualify as a father-son selection as his father, Paul, did not hit the 100-game barrier at Geelong. Tom is a half-back suited to the modern game as he is competitive and loves to compete and beat his opponent. He An ankle injury disrupted his year but he has shown enough to me that he would be a very good type of player to bring into any club.
31. Darcy Wilmott
183cm, 75kg, Northern Knights/Vic Metro, rebound defender
Darcy is a tough competitor as a half-back who loves the contest and his aggressive attack on the ball and opponents is something clubs will really like to see. He also loves to take on the opposition with run and carry, so I see him as a good future rebounding defender or midfielder as he develops. He is young as he only makes this year’s draft by a day.
32. Marcus Windhager (Possible Saint NGA)
183cm, 82kg, Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, midfielder
As a member of St Kilda’s Next Generation Academy, Marcus’s progress this season would have caught the eyes of other clubs’ recruiters, I am sure of that. It will be touch and go if he is available for the Saints — if another club picks him top 20, the Saints will not be able to bid. He has really improved and although he has had an interrupted program following a knee reconstruction, he has showed enough to be at least a top 30 pick.
33. Jesse Motlop (Possible Fremantle NGA)
176cm, 74kg, South Fremantle/Western Australia, midfielder
Jesse is a smart small forward who has an X-factor. He is a Fremantle NGA prospect but the Dockers can only match a bid for him after pick 40 as he is a metropolitan Indigenous player. He is the son of Daniel so he has a great pedigree. He will need time to develop and can drift in and out of the play, but if a club is prepared to be patient with his development he can make special things happen.
34. Sam Butler
184cm, 73kg, Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country, midfield/forward
Unfortunately an injury to Sam’s sternum interrupted his progress — as season as well as the Covid-19 lockdowns — but he has shown enough of older brother Dan Butler’s traits to convince clubs he is work taking. He has speed, competitiveness and a good work ethic to go with some smart decision making and a polished skillset. But he will need time to develop his body, so patience will be required.
35. Mitch Knevitt
193cm, 81kg, Geelong Falcons/Vic Country, inside midfielder
Mitch is going to be a big-bodied midfielder in time. He dominates the under-age level with his size but he will find it tougher at a VFL/AFL level when he meets bigger stronger bodies. But I think he will develop very quickly and has the frame to quickly add even more size.
He competes really hard and has good skills, so there is a lot to like about him.
36. Judson Clarke
179cm, 69kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country, small forward/midfielder
Judson is another clever small forward who brings energy to his team. Although he will take time to develop, he has all the traits to make a clever small forward with speed, footy smarts and goal sense. He is always on the move, which keeps his opponents guessing, and he does read the ball well in the air and off hands. I expect he will be on clubs’ lists that are in the market for a smart, small forward.
37. Josh Browne
185cm, 77kg, East Fremantle/Western Australia, midfielder
Josh is another nice moving midfielder who can win his own footy and he generally makes good decisions when the ball is in his hands. Josh won the Jack Clarke medal this year for the best player in the WAFL Colts’ competition and this should hold him in good stead when it comes to draft night. I am sure many clubs will have noticed his development in 2021.
38. Ned Long
193cm, 93kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Victoria, midfielder
Ned is another big bodied midfielder available in this draft. Like many Victorian players he has lacked exposure and games over the past few years, but he can be dangerous as a goal kicking midfielder and he competes well inside. He also tackles well and reads the play well. So there is a lot to like about his potential.
39. Cooper Murley
178cm, 70kg, Norwood/South Australia, midfielder/small forward
Cooper is a player who has had to battle injury and this has affected his draft year. But he is a smart footballer with a quick football brain, so while he is small and needs to add strength, I think in time he might develop into a wonderful playmaker (Caleb Daniel type). He just needs continuity to his football. With some good development I think he might be a little beauty in two-three years’ time.
40. Corey Warner
182cm, 74kg, East Fremantle/Western Australia, midfielder/rebound defender
Corey is a good prospect who moves well and has good penetration in his kicking. But sometimes he can get a bit too ambitious with his decision making. He is the type of player who can develop into a nice outside midfielder or rebounding defender if he takes the time to polish up areas of his game. He knows how to win the ball, has some dash and likes to take on opponents. He did play senior WAFL football in 2021 so that is a good sign.
41. Jake Soligo
180cm, 74kg, Eastern Ranges/Victoria, midfielder
Jake looks to be a midfielder of quality and although his past two years have been interrupted, I think recruiters will have seen enough to believe he has a lot of upside. He played VFL for Richmond in 2021 and did not look out of place or overawed by the occasion and that would earn him a tick from recruiters. He finds the footy well, looks to use it well, seems to make good decisions and is composed and calm in possession.
42. Oscar Morrison
193cm, 86kg, Geelong Falcons/Victoria, defender
I like Oscar and I think that clubs looking for a tall competitive defender will certainly spend a lot of time assessing him. He already has a strong frame and if he can grow a few more centimetres over the next few years, a club that drafts him may well have a very good key defender on their hands. There is a lot to like about him – he loves to compete, reads the ball flight well and positions his body well.
43. Jase Burgoyne (FS Prospect Port Adelaide)
185cm, 68kg, WWT Eagles/South Australia, outside midfielder/rebound defender
Jase is the son of Port Adelaide premiership star Peter and I would expect Port Adelaide to take him as a father-son selection. He is slightly built and will need time to develop, but I do not think he will ever become a big-bodied player. He has some exciting traits, uses the ball well and is a playmaker. He needs to improve his running power, but if Port are patient I think he will develop into a very good AFL player.
44. Lewis Rayson
182cm, 75kg, Glenelg/South Australia, outside midfielder/rebound defender
Lewis has come into draft calculations on the back of some impressive performances during 2021. He looks a nice outside midfielder/rebounding defender as he uses the ball well and has a penetrating kick. He will also need some time to develop and polish up areas of his game. Coaches will need to instil some belief in Lewis to utilise his playing strengths as he can become a bit opponent conscious at times and hesitant to be a playmaker. He is reluctant to leave his opponent to attack the ball or fly to spoil as a third man up when he should. A nice prospect and clubs are sure to consider him.
45. Sam Banks
187cm, 75kg, Tasmania, midfielder/rebound defender
Sam would be Tasmania’s best draft prospect in 2021. He is a midfielder who uses the ball by foot well and I see him developing into a rebounding defender because he has flair and is willing to take on opponents and use his kicking skills to set up teammates further down the field. He does not often take the easy kicks and is prepared to try and hit targets that are in dangerous positions, so recruiters will like that trait.
46. Mitch Owens
191cm, 85kg, Sandringham Dragons/Victoria, midfielder/rebound defender
Mitch is a big midfielder who has really developed physically over the past few years and this has seen him go from playing small/medium forward roles to progressing into the midfield. While the lack of games over the past few years have probably not been ideal for his exposure, I definitely think that he has good football traits — a strong work ethic and polished skills that are sure to see him on clubs’ recruiting talent flow lists.
47. Morgan Ferres
191cm, 81kg, Sturt/South Australia, forward/midfield
Morgan looks to have a bit of class and has shown good improvement over the past couple of years as a tall forward or midfielder. He should continue to grow to a good size with a strong body and having had some continuity as an SA player will allow recruiters to better assess his form. He has talent and footy smarts to work with and does show enough to think he might be drafted or rookie listed.
48. Will Bravo
182cm, 77kg, Dandenong Stingrays/Victoria, midfielder/forward
After missing out on being drafted last year Will would have again been frustrated by the lack of football being played this year. He is a strong, tough inside midfielder with good leg speed, but his kicking needed to improve and hopefully he has been working hard on this part of his game. He did drift in and out of games too much but hopefully some maturity will help this. He looks to be an ideal late pick or rookie selection and he did train with the Hawks during last year’s pre-season, so hopefully he gets his name read out this year.
49. Liam Podhajski
202cm, 100kg, Calder Cannon/Victoria, Ruck
Clubs in the market for a developing ruckman will certainly be looking closely at Luke. He is a big lump of a lad and has some footy smarts. The depth of ruck stocks is a bit thin across the competition so clubs need to take a long-term view with this sort of player as many don’t blossom until their mid-twenties. I can see Liam being a big powerful ruckman in time and I see a club at least rookie listing him.
50. Ned Moyle
205cm, 87kg, Oakleigh Chargers/Victoria, ruck
Ned is your typical young ruckman with a lot to learn and a lot of physical work and development needed. But at 205cm he is going to be certainly considered as a later pick or as a rookie. He also has a lot to learn and will need good development coaching and a sensible strength program. But a lad this big is hard to find so he will have admirers at AFL level for sure.
I believe we will do a trade and end up taking 4 picks , We will either combine 2 later picks trying to get into the 1st round or #15+ something to move into the top 8-9So we've all had some fun hypothesising and fantasising trading picks to trade up and down the order.
After reading all the bios of top 30, like others here, I just want to see us draft 5 players when our selections come up.
We have great draft hand now - play the cards as they fall.
I believe we will do a trade and end up taking 4 picks , We will either combine 2 later picks trying to get into the 1st round or #15+ something to move into the top 8-9
Im thinking we take 4 and then take one of Schlensog/FreemanI can't see us having enough capital to trade up to get this Callaghan kid, so I reckon we'll take 4 picks and try to trade into next year. Then do the old invite 5 kids to train and pick up the best one of them.