Prediction 2021 Draft Predictions

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For those who aren’t quite in a position to do a full phantom draft, but who would still like to have a go at predicting the draft, please use this thread to post your predictions

The current draft order is available in the pinned thread, here:

Resource - 2021 AFL Draft Order

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In accordance with board rules, phantom drafts which do not fulfil the requirements of a full first round using the current draft order (at time of posting), and preferably with a bit of explanation and willingness to explain your decisions, may also be merged into this thread.

Following the Trade Period, the current order for the first round of the draft is:

1. North Melbourne
2. GWS Giants
3. Gold Coast Suns
4. Adelaide
5. Hawthorn
6. Fremantle
7. Richmond
8. Fremantle
9. St Kilda
10. West Coast Eagles
11. Essendon
12. Port Adelaide
13. GWS Giants
14. Brisbane Lions
15. Richmond
16. Sydney Swans
17. Melbourne
18. Brisbane Lions

 

[eth-dog]

I assumed it was taking him at 7 ?

Unlikely. Most likely it'll be Hobbs or Ward

 

[Marcel Proust]

Unlikely. Most likely it'll be Hobbs or Ward

One of those and sinn would tantalizing

 

[Significant]

I assume StKilda will be all over Sinn unless one of the better prospects fall to them

 

[eth-dog]

I assume StKilda will be all over Sinn unless one of the better prospects fall to them

I would have thought he'd be relative low priority compared to guys like NWM, Hobbs or Ward

 

[bird_man]

I would have thought he'd be relative low priority compared to guys like NWM, Hobbs or Ward

Hobbs and Ward yes, but both look unlikely to be available.

I can't see how NWM is anymore of a need than Sinn though.

It would just come down to who we think the better player is.

Sinn is far from perfect I'm terms of need but he has been linked to us for quite a while

 

[bird_man]

If Gibcus is still available at St Kilda's first selection, who says no to this deal?

Saints give 11 and a F2, recieve 15 (GWS)
receive 21 (Freo)

GWS give 15, F1 receive 11, F2 (StK)

Freo give 21, receive F1 (GWS)

 

[BrutThough]

I would have thought he'd be relative low priority compared to guys like NWM, Hobbs or Ward

Ward and Hobbs will both likely be gone.

Cant see why NWM would be a high priority since we already have plenty of specialist wings.

 

[eth-dog]

If Gibcus is still available at St Kilda's first selection, who says no to this deal?

Saints give 11 and a F2, recieve 15 (GWS)
receive 21 (Freo)

GWS give 15, F1 receive 11, F2 (StK)

Freo give 21, receive F1 (GWS)

Freo. They can get a mid 20's pick and a F2 for 21

 

[GWS Goose]

If Gibcus is still available at St Kilda's first selection, who says no to this deal?

Saints give 11 and a F2, recieve 15 (GWS)
receive 21 (Freo)

GWS give 15, F1 receive 11, F2 (StK)

Freo give 21, receive F1 (GWS)

seems reasonable.

 

[pK75]

If Gibcus is still available at St Kilda's first selection, who says no to this deal?

Saints give 11 and a F2, recieve 15 (GWS)
receive 21 (Freo)

GWS give 15, F1 receive 11, F2 (StK)

Freo give 21, receive F1 (GWS)

Freo do, they’ll hold until start of day 2 to asses all the offers, personally I’d prefer we use it on JVR if he’s still available. If not slide down a few spots and bring in a F2 from one of the lower teams that way we get two top 30 players, one this year and one next year.

 

[theiaofseed]

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis.
2. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
3. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
4. GWS - Finn Callaghan
5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrews
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
9. Richmond - Ben Hobbs
10. Fremantle - Matthew Johnson
11. St Kilda - Josh Amiss
12. West Coast - Josh Gibcus
13. Essendon - Josh Sinn
14. Port Adelaide - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
15. GWS - Jacob van Rooyen
16. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot
17. Richmond - Campbell Chesser
18. Sydney - Tyler Sonsie
19. Melbourne - Josh Goater
20. Brisbane - Blake Howes

 

[bird_man]

Freo. They can get a mid 20's pick and a F2 for 21

Who's going to give up a 2nd rounder for a slight pick upgrade in the 20's?

 

[eth-dog]

Who's going to give up a 2nd rounder for a slight pick upgrade in the 20's?

It's happened every time that it's been a 2 night draft. Brisbane did it for a 1 pick upgrade

 

[bird_man]

It's happened every time that it's been a 2 night draft. Brisbane did it for a 1 pick upgrade

Brisbane did give up a fair price to get Robertson

What was the deal last year though?

 

[GWS Goose]

1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis.
2. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
3. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
4. GWS - Finn Callaghan
5. Gold Coast - Ben Hobbs
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
9. Richmond - Josh Sinn
10. Fremantle - Josh Amiss
11. St Kilda - Nasiah Wanganeen-Miler
12. West Coast - Josh Gibcus
13. Essendon - Matthew Johnson
14. Port Adelaide - Tyler Sonsie
15. GWS - Mac Andrew
16. Brisbane - Josh Goater
17. Richmond - Campbell Chesser
18. Sydney - Arlo Draper
19. Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyan
20. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmott

 

[GWS Goose]

Notes
Gold Coast with the loss of Greenwood, probably a slightly different tact to planned. They are said to be big on Hobbs, but pre-greenwood I think they would have went Andrew or Gibcus
Richmond would have liked to grab Ward or Hobbs with the first pick, both off the board, they are said to like Sinn and would have probably like to trade up to get him with the second pick after taking one Ward or Hobbs first.
St Kilda- Considered Andrew here but thought they would priortise outside class with this pick over the project pick.
West Coast- Take Gibcus as the slider and a best available pick
Essendon- Found Essendon a tough choice here, no obvious holes in the list, think Johnson as a well performed well balanced midfielder might go here.
GWS- Get Andrew who will be considered by most teams, but as a project player I think most will opt for a more ready made option Essendon may take him
Brisbane- Goater is a risk reward selection, great athlete, clear flaws, Brisbane in a position to take this risk
Richmond- Chesser some outside class, given they didnt get an inside mid earlier, may opt for a hard nut here, perhaps Draper or the take the likelybig slider Roberts with a pick in the 20's
Sydney- Will need to replace the battle hardened midfield shortly, class galore on the outside, think Draper may fill this role
Melbourne- Pretty sorted everywhere, a young tall at that can play at either end will add depth to their squad.
Brisbane- Wilmott long term defender seems to suit their needs

 

[PaythePerryman]

Notes
Gold Coast with the loss of Greenwood, probably a slightly different tact to planned. They are said to be big on Hobbs, but pre-greenwood I think they would have went Andrew or Gibcus
Richmond would have liked to grab Ward or Hobbs with the first pick, both off the board, they are said to like Sinn and would have probably like to trade up to get him with the second pick after taking one Ward or Hobbs first.
St Kilda- Considered Andrew here but thought they would priortise outside class with this pick over the project pick.
West Coast- Take Gibcus as the slider and a best available pick
Essendon- Found Essendon a tough choice here, no obvious holes in the list, think Johnson as a well performed well balanced midfielder might go here.
GWS- Get Andrew who will be considered by most teams, but as a project player I think most will opt for a more ready made option Essendon may take him
Brisbane- Goater is a risk reward selection, great athlete, clear flaws, Brisbane in a position to take this risk
Richmond- Chesser some outside class, given they didnt get an inside mid earlier, may opt for a hard nut here, perhaps Draper or the take the likelybig slider Roberts with a pick in the 20's
Sydney- Will need to replace the battle hardened midfield shortly, class galore on the outside, think Draper may fill this role
Melbourne- Pretty sorted everywhere, a young tall at that can play at either end will add depth to their squad.
Brisbane- Wilmott long term defender seems to suit their needs

If this happens, all my Christmases will have come at once.

 

[blueiris]

Who's going to give up a 2nd rounder for a slight pick upgrade in the 20's?

Brisbane Lions did that exact trade to get Robertson

 

[bird_man]

Brisbane Lions did that exact trade to get Robertson

Yes I understand that. Doesn't answer the question though

 

[blueiris]

Yes I understand that. Doesn't answer the question though

Geelong might

 

[bird_man]

Geelong might

Maybe they will, maybe not.

I presumed by the comment that there might have been some mail that there was a club keen to do that deal.

I guess it will come down to if a highly rated player slips through like Robertson did two years back.

Just because it happened with the Lions though doesn't guarantee it happening again though.

It's a lot to give up for a slight upgrade.

 

[blueiris]

1. Jason Horne-Fancis-North Melbourne
2.Sam Darcy-bid by GWS matched by the Western Bulldogs
3. Josh Diacos- bid by GWS matched by Collingwood
4.Finn Callaghan- GWS
5.Josh Gicbus- GoldCoast
6.Josh Rachele- Adelaide
7.Josh Ward- Hawthorn
8.Josh Amiss- Fremantle
9.Ben Hobbs- Richmond
10. Noel Erasmus- Fremantle
11. Naisah Wanganeen-Milera
12.Josh Sinn- West coast
13.Mac Andrew- Essendon
14.Josh Goater- Port Adelaide
15. Blake Howes- GWS
16.Campbell Chesser- Brisbane Lions
17.Jacob Van-Rooyen-Richmond
18.Darcy Wilmot- Sydney
19.Matthew Johnson- Melbourne
20. Tyler Sonsie- Brisbane Lions

 

[bird_man]

1. Jason Horne-Fancis-North Melbourne
2.Sam Darcy-bid by GWS matched by the Western Bulldogs
3. Josh Diacos- bid by GWS matched by Collingwood
4.Finn Callaghan- GWS
5.Josh Gicbus- GoldCoast
6.Josh Rachele- Adelaide
7.Josh Ward- Hawthorn
8.Josh Amiss- Fremantle
9.Ben Hobbs- Richmond
10. Noel Erasmus- Fremantle
11. Naisah Wanganeen-Milera
12.Josh Sinn- West coast
13.Mac Andrew- Essendon
14.Josh Goater- Port Adelaide
15. Blake Howes- GWS
16.Campbell Chesser- Brisbane Lions
17.Jacob Van-Rooyen-Richmond
18.Darcy Wilmot- Sydney
19.Matthew Johnson- Melbourne
20. Tyler Sonsie- Brisbane Lions

Sinn is a local lad that has been linked to the Saints for a while, I can't see us grabbing NWM ahead of him.

 

[blueiris]

Sinn is a local lad that has been linked to the Saints for a while, I can't see us grabbing NWM ahead of him.

Yeah Sinn and NWM could go either way WestCoast are linked to NWM at 12 according to Twomey

 

[JasRulz63]

Maybe they will, maybe not.

I presumed by the comment that there might have been some mail that there was a club keen to do that deal.

I guess it will come down to if a highly rated player slips through like Robertson did two years back.

Just because it happened with the Lions though doesn't guarantee it happening again though.

It's a lot to give up for a slight upgrade.

It happened in 2018 too. GC gave up 27 and 32 to get to 23 (last pick of the first round; for McLennan), and GWS gave up 28 and Carlton's future second to get up to 24 (first pick of the second round; for Hill). Clubs are willing to give up a lot to get up the order and nab someone they feel has slid/want to jump in before another club.

Last year was a bit different because it went back to the single night draft.