Analysis 2021 draft thread
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We can split round 1 pick into more points, see what the Bulldogs did this year. Maybe even round 2 pick too.
The best picks for points matching are those in the 40s and 50s, as they give you reasonable number of points, but teams are happy to trade them to you for a higher pick.
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Hey briz, where did you get this rankings list from, I couldn't find in on the draft board? I was looking for a write up on each player.
Think the Bulldogs ended up 500 points better off from trading away pick 17, which then became more when they traded 23 down during the draft.
Is it me, or it doesn't seem like the list spots for every pick applies to trades during the draft.
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Early days regarding Ashcroft
As long as his form holds up and is considered a top 10 pick this time next year that would be great
As long as his form holds up and is considered a top 10 pick this time next year that would be great
Clubs can trade up, and Hollands may not go top 3.
That's my mail as well. And his best mates are Tim Paine, Jordan DeGoey & Pete Evans.
2021 AFL Draft review: Brisbane
Brisbane had a couple of first round picks and added the need for speed, as well as a tough West Australian at the 2021 AFL Draft.
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Any talls on the horizon in our academy? We had such a good run for a while there, seems to have dried up?
Was mentioned in this post from the previous page.
Unfortunately the club puts out sfa information about the academy, so unless you’re involved as a parent or sibling of an academy member, it’s next to impossible to know who is coming through.
There was another discussion about the QLD academies on the QAFL board today. Let’s just say there’s a lot of criticism of the academy from the QAFL clubs.
With Ashcroft likely to be a top 3-5 pick, geelong is probably in the hot seat to do a trade to give you the points required as we have 3x3rd round, 2x 4th and our second rounder still if needed. Gold Coast will need their picks for academy products again.
Good point. I think Eckersley is in the next draft and he's rated fairly highly.
Is there some way we can include Marcus Ashcroft in the deal? He's almost old enough for Geelong to draft him.
keen to see how it plays out as geelong is the likely club that will come to the table to give Brisbane the points for Ashcroft at this point. Geelong and Brisbane have a good relationship as well with trading and it’s generally pretty direct and over and done quickly without fuss
nah you got it all wrong mate.. we need key defending depth, mal michaels should do it.
Well you ain't getting Chris Johnson, I'm still hopeful for a lazarus return for him to the Lions. Still my favourite player.
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Yeah lets hope all six can find a club for next year. Its a shame no talls apart from the ruck there are on the horizon. That's been our bread and butter from the academy and Queensland in general for a long time.
I know Quigley mentioned there were two talls to watch from our academy, based off the U17 academy games v Gold Coast.
There was also an article posted by AFL Queensland at the beginning of the year about the academy prospects for next year.
Who’s who coming through the Queensland ranks | AFL Queensland
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There might be more kids in lower age groups coming through, but we would hardly know, with the lack of vision and updates from the club.
A couple of small observations from this year’s draft, the mid season draft, and last year’s draft.
First this year, quite a few teams prioritised outside speed and good ball use with their early picks, ahead of more highly touted or spoken about midfielders.
There might be a bit of a shift in the style of play over the next few years as these kids mature and current players retire.
Secondly and this is an observation from the past two years, quite a few teams have drafted a ruck and a ruck forward in the last two years. Again, we might see in 5 or 6 years, more teams playing with 3 KPP’s in the forward 50.
First this year, quite a few teams prioritised outside speed and good ball use with their early picks, ahead of more highly touted or spoken about midfielders.
There might be a bit of a shift in the style of play over the next few years as these kids mature and current players retire.
Secondly and this is an observation from the past two years, quite a few teams have drafted a ruck and a ruck forward in the last two years. Again, we might see in 5 or 6 years, more teams playing with 3 KPP’s in the forward 50.
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I know Quigley mentioned there were two talls to watch from our academy, based off the U17 academy games v Gold Coast.
There was also an article posted by AFL Queensland at the beginning of the year about the academy prospects for next year.
Who’s who coming through the Queensland ranks | AFL Queensland
There might be more kids in lower age groups coming through, but we would hardly know, with the lack of vision and updates from the club.
Surprised McMillan wasn't mentioned.
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Lots of words here which I've enjoyed very much, but at heart I'm a numbers man. After the dust has settled on the drafts it looks like we have the 9th oldest list going into season 2022, with an average age of 24.5. It's interesting to look at how these figures have changed over time:
Couple of key take outs (for me anyway):
Some notes:
Couple of key take outs (for me anyway):
- This will be the oldest list we have ever had as a club (including the Bears era).
- However, there will still be 8 clubs who have older lists than ours. This speaks volumes for the gradual lengthening of player careers over the last 30 years or so, training standards and professionalism have increased, as well as medical advancements and changes to rules regarding player safety I guess.
- When the Bears first rose to prominence in 1995-6, it happened with a list that was, essentially, and in hindsight, in a rebuilding phase, noting the falling line from 1995 to 1998. The wooden spoon was achieved with the 3rd youngest list in the comp, which, again, with the benefit of hindsight, laid the platform for what was to come.
- Even in 2001, and allowing for the recruitment of guys like Martin Pike and Mal Michael, we won that flag with the 3rd youngest list in the comp.
- After that, and not surprisingly, we held onto most of our players, and topped up with a guy like Caracella, so by 2004 we had the 3rd oldest list. It happens pretty quickly!
- A few retirements, plus Aker's departure, probably forced the club's hand, but even so we had regenerated the list, at least from an age perspective, to build again by 2009.
- Unfortunately we probably went too hard at the trade table too soon, jumping from the 3rd youngest list in 2009 to the 5th oldest list in 2011. This meant we spent the next half decade sliding back into rebuilding mode.
- We bottomed out in 2016 and remained the youngest list in 2017, and the build since has arguably been the most measured and organised in the club's history. For the 1st time since 2011 we now find our list in the top half, age-wise, in the comp, and my take on this is that the iron is hot - time to strike. Very interested to know what everyone else reckons?
Some notes:
- The years 1993-6 are for the Bears. Apologies to ex-Fitzroy fans, the chart gets a bit busy with extra lines at the start and I wanted to plot the premiership era as accurately as possible for comparison purposes.
- The average age is reported by Draft Guru in the reverse order, which I prefer, but I wanted the lines above to appear somewhat correlated. Example: Draft Guru currently has Geelong as "1st" for the "oldest list", whereas if we were plotting their chart as per above, they would appear as "18th".
