Mega Thread 2021 Draft

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The Sandringham thing is a league wide phenomenon. As recruiting has moved towards 'character' assessment, the private school types are favoured. They're generally well spoken, confident, good looking, know what to say to recruiters, etc, which gives them an advantage.
 

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Th Sandringham thing is interesting. I think we now have 5 on our list. Its interesting because we used to, i think, deliberately shy away from the Vic metro mummies boys. Sandringham, is a pretty salubrious part of Malbun, the kids from there are naturally private school boys as opposed to scholarship winning ones, Parents have a holiday house down at Sorrento, Dads a member at Kingston Heath type of place.
These are the types we would have given a wide berth even 5 years ago.

Its a real change in mindset, shows we have a pretty good culture and regained confidence at Port. The way Sinn waxed lyrical about the club did have a tinge of over zealous pre prepared propaganda about it, but he did seem genuine.

Yes we've always had great retention, but it was always more targeted. I still think its targeted (4 from Sandi in the last 3 drafts seems targeted), but maybe the Vic metro Mummies Boy thing is not as big an issue as it used to be.
Great points. It seems like the perception of Port Adelaide has changed externally since the move to Adelaide Oval, and even moreso in the last few years with the addition of our young guns getting plenty of media attention, and the rise up the ladder. Port Adelaide is currently seen as relevant and a "cool" club to get drafted to. Add the absolute sh*t-show that has been living in Victoria for the last 18 months, and the prospect of moving to Port Adelaide suddenly becomes fairly attractive. Definitely an air of rehearsed about his answers, especially pre draft. He's a smart kid, he knew he was likely heading to Port and decided to embrace it.
 

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not so much a rating of the players taken, rather a reaction to our trade and draft strategy
That's how our assessment appears to be graded but it is meant to be about the players taken. Every year, ESPN seems to be underwhelmed by our draft. But this year, given the hand we had, we did ok. I'm not expecting him to kiss our balls but even he rated Sinn and Jackson highly as individual players.

ESPN's AFL Draft expert Chris Doerre has run his eye over every club's draft haul and graded their performance with some club's setting themselves up well for the future, while other clubs missed the mark. See how your club fared at the 2021 AFL Draft.
 

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This seems to be a bit micromanaged. I almost expect to see a time allocated for each club to use the urinal.
 

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That's how our assessment appears to be graded but it is meant to be about the players taken. Every year, ESPN seems to be underwhelmed by our draft. But this year, given the hand we had, we did ok. I'm not expecting him to kiss our balls but even he rated Sinn and Jackson highly as individual players.

ESPN's AFL Draft expert Chris Doerre has run his eye over every club's draft haul and graded their performance with some club's setting themselves up well for the future, while other clubs missed the mark. See how your club fared at the 2021 AFL Draft.
Well he is a Collingwood fan.

I think it's a fair call to say that we overpaid for Sinn (which is different to saying that Sinn isn't worth it).

Also Kinghtmare didn't have Sinn in his top 20 for his power ratings so he just doesn't rate him that highly.
 

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That rating is a bit weird considering if you line up rachele Soligo and Taylor next to sinn Jackson visentini and Burgoyne which group would you take? There’s really nothing between the two groups.

But the teams were on opposite sides of the ladder.


Losing our 2022 second, and the Ladhams trade were far from ideal, but we’ve done as well with the picks we had as we could have I think.

That’s meant to be a review of our draft, not our off-season.
 

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Well he is a Collingwood fan.

I think it's a fair call to say that we overpaid for Sinn (which is different to saying that Sinn isn't worth it).

Also Kinghtmare didn't have Sinn in his top 20 for his power ratings so he just doesn't rate him that highly.
His later power rankings tend to reflect rumours he has heard about drafting position. Mid-year he had Sinn just outside his top 10 and a projected draft range of 5-20. And he had Hugh Jackson at 17.
 

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ESPN rated Adelaide's draft an A and ours a D+.

I'm not a draft expert, but I don't see the gulf between the two hauls. We seemed to get marked down for trading up to pick 10.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32715002/afl-draft-2021-every-club-draft-haul-rated
Knightmare is not a fan of Port and it’s telling.

He had Hugh Jackson at 17 in his power rankings and we got him at 55 and he still gave us a D.

Add to the fact numerous clubs were clamouring to have a shot at Sinn.
 

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to be honest most clubs had ‘meh’ drafts, including ours. Richmond and Freo were really good. Collingwood also got lucky and worked it very well.

Outside of that, everyone else just seemed to tick the boxes and do as expected.

That being said across the draft and trade period port has added KPP depth in Skinner and Finlayson, a developing ruck (REH must think he is dreaming), some outside run and class in Burgoyne and Jackson and much needed speed and midfield depth in Sinn. Future looked after (Sinn) and the now covered too(skinner and Finlason). We’ve lost Ladhams and a few past it or not going to make it players.
From what we had available to us, we’ve done the best we could. It’s not Richmond’s draft, which we didn’t have the picks for and we didn’t get lucky like Collingwood, but we did well and optimised what we had.
 

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ESPN rated Adelaide's draft an A and ours a D+.

I'm not a draft expert, but I don't see the gulf between the two hauls. We seemed to get marked down for trading up to pick 10.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32715002/afl-draft-2021-every-club-draft-haul-rated
If you finish 18th then 15th in consecutive years and have a revolving door of good players wanting to leave your club then you set yourself up nicely for the lottery that is the National Draft.
 

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His later power rankings tend to reflect rumours he has heard about drafting position. Mid-year he had Sinn just outside his top 10 and a projected draft range of 5-20. And he had Hugh Jackson at 17.
Those are his phantom drafts (more based on where he thinks they will go) rather than his power ratings (based on where he values them).

He also tends to put a high value on contested possessions which might have gone against Sinn.
 

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to be honest most clubs had ‘meh’ drafts, including ours. Richmond and Freo were really good. Collingwood also got lucky and worked it very well.

Outside of that, everyone else just seemed to tick the boxes and do as expected.

That being said across the draft and trade period port has added KPP depth in Skinner and Finlayson, a developing ruck (REH must think he is dreaming), some outside run and class in Burgoyne and Jackson and much needed speed and midfield depth in Sinn. Future looked after (Sinn) and the now covered too(skinner and Finlason). We’ve lost Ladhams and a few past it or not going to make it players.
From what we had available to us, we’ve done the best we could. It’s not Richmond’s draft, which we didn’t have the picks for and we didn’t get lucky like Collingwood, but we did well and optimised what we had.
Good post, I do not think we have lost anyone we cannot replace and given our trading for F&S and Academy players in recent years and our high ladder finish we were never going to be big players in this year's Draft.
 

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Knightmare is not a fan of Port and it’s telling.

He had Hugh Jackson at 17 in his power rankings and we got him at 55 and he still gave us a D.

Add to the fact numerous clubs were clamouring to have a shot at Sinn.
He's a Collingwood supporter - what do you expect?
 

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