Prediction 2021 Early Ladder Predictions

WHO WILL MAKE THE 8

  • Adelaide

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • Brisbane

    Votes: 264 57.0%
  • Carlton

    Votes: 45 9.7%
  • Collingwood

    Votes: 11 2.4%
  • Essendon

    Votes: 9 1.9%
  • Fremantle

    Votes: 32 6.9%
  • Geelong

    Votes: 192 41.5%
  • Gold Coast

    Votes: 21 4.5%
  • GWS

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Hawthorn

    Votes: 38 8.2%
  • Melbourne

    Votes: 25 5.4%
  • North Melbourne

    Votes: 13 2.8%
  • Port Adelaide

    Votes: 217 46.9%
  • Richmond

    Votes: 316 68.3%
  • St Kilda

    Votes: 96 20.7%
  • Sydney

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • West Coast

    Votes: 119 25.7%
  • Western Bulldogs

    Votes: 70 15.1%

  • Total voters
    463

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Craze

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Ablett didn't play for a fair chunk of the season and was done after about 5 mins in the GF.

Cameron, Higgins and Smith are all better than whoever it is they'll be keeping out of the team. All 3 are younger than Ablett and Taylor.
That’s fine, I just don’t think it necessarily follows that Geelong will be better. There’s form. There’s cohesion. There’s continued ageing in Higgins, Smith, Selwood, Dangerfield, Hawkins. And then there’s the fact that other teams like Brisbane, Port, St Kilda and West Coast will be snapping at your heels and who knows they may improve more.
So if someone dares to leave Geelong outside the top 4 in a prediction thread without seeing the fixture and 4 months before the season starts, I wouldn’t be getting all offended.
 

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That’s fine, I just don’t think it necessarily follows that Geelong will be better. There’s form. There’s cohesion. There’s continued ageing in Higgins, Smith, Selwood, Dangerfield, Hawkins. And then there’s the fact that other teams like Brisbane, Port, St Kilda and West Coast will be snapping at your heels and who knows they may improve more.
So if someone dares to leave Geelong outside the top 4 in a prediction thread without seeing the fixture and 4 months before the season starts, I wouldn’t be getting all offended.
Who's offended?

In my initial post, I never quoted anyone asking why they didn't Geelong on top, in the 4 or in the 8, I just posted up my list, nothing more, nothing less.

I listed who I think will make the top 8 and who wouldn't. The only club in the top 8 that I have in order is Geelong. I never posted that they would be better or worse, my reasoning is that following their trading strategy, if they don't win it then it's been a wasted year so a failure in the end.

The bottom 10 I put in a roughish order with the bottom 3 or so about where I think they'll end up.
 

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Who's offended?

In my initial post, I never quoted anyone asking why they didn't Geelong on top, in the 4 or in the 8, I just posted up my list, nothing more, nothing less.

I listed who I think will make the top 8 and who wouldn't. The only club in the top 8 that I have in order is Geelong. I never posted that they would be better or worse, my reasoning is that following their trading strategy, if they don't win it then it's been a wasted year so a failure in the end.

The bottom 10 I put in a roughish order with the bottom 3 or so about where I think they'll end up.
My reply was to a Geelong poster who grizzled because despite the addition of three players some thought, as is their right, that Geelong would drop away
 

Craze

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Maybe you should have quoted him when you posted your whiny response.
Geelong supporter complains that not enough people have tipped Geelong for top 4, even though Cameron and Higgins and Smith have been added

I suggest that new players are no guarantee of success, especially if other clubs improve more, which is quite possible

You say that I am whining
 

Herne Hill Hammer

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Geelong supporter complains that not enough people have tipped Geelong for top 4, even though Cameron and Higgins and Smith have been added

I suggest that new players are no guarantee of success, especially if other clubs improve more, which is quite possible

You say that I am whining
Well you are, I don't understand why you quoted me in the first place and you're still whining to me.
 

Goggin Our Best

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Geelong supporter complains that not enough people have tipped Geelong for top 4, even though Cameron and Higgins and Smith have been added

I suggest that new players are no guarantee of success, especially if other clubs improve more, which is quite possible

You say that I am whining
Its an interesting point that - and which clubs are going to improve - and maybe contrary to most opinions - a team jumps out of the pack

You take Geel and Rich - no one after 2006 season was saying Geel would win flags - and it was exactly the same with Rich after 2016 ( especially losing the final game of that year by over 20 goals to Swans ) . But all the pieces came together and they won flags

So most think - the upcoming season - Bris StK WB Port - will take the next step - but will they - maybe a club outside that group can jump up - like Geel and Rich - and when it happens it just happens

One thing the draft/trading system has showed - is when a club gets it right - and all the bits of the jigsaw puzzle come together and they assemble a good list - they will win multiple flags .
 

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Its an interesting point that - and which clubs are going to improve - and maybe contrary to most opinions - a team jumps out of the pack

You take Geel and Rich - no one after 2006 season was saying Geel would win flags - and it was exactly the same with Rich after 2016 ( especially losing the final game of that year by over 20 goals to Swans ) . But all the pieces came together and they won flags

So most think - the upcoming season - Bris StK WB Port - will take the next step - but will they - maybe a club outside that group can jump up - like Geel and Rich - and when it happens it just happens

One thing the draft/trading system has showed - is when a club gets it right - and all the bits of the jigsaw puzzle come together and they assemble a good list - they will win multiple flags .
And it’s really hard to predict. The top 4 is rarely the same two seasons in a row. You’ve given some great examples. Likewise sometimes a premiership fancy unexpectedly drops away, perhaps due to injuries, an internal club dynamics problem, ageing players, lack of motivation, a disconnect between coach and players, indiscipline or suspensions. So much also depends on the fixture.
 

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Now that lists are settled, this is my ladder:

1. Geelong
2. Brisbane
3. Port Adelaide
4. Richmond
5. Melbourne
6. St Kilda
7. Bulldogs
8. West Coast
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9. Fremantle
10. Gold Coast
11. Carlton
12. GWS
13. Collingwood
14. Sydney
15. Hawthorn
16. Essendon
17. Adelaide
18. North Melbourne

Same top 4 and almost identical top 8 except Melbourne coming in at the expense of Collingwood. There's bound to be a couple of surprise jumps and surprise falls though
 

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November 1 Ladder Prediction. Post season disappointment.


  1. Richmond
  2. Geelong
  3. West Coast
  4. Port Adelaide
  5. Brisbane
  6. Western Bulldogs
  7. Carlton
  8. St.Kilda
  9. Gold Coast
  10. Fremantle
  11. Melbourne
  12. Collingwood
  13. Sydney
  14. Adelaide
  15. Hawthorn
  16. Essendon
  17. GWS
  18. North Melbourne

No crowds
A Hub
17 rounds
Richmond to win flag against some very ordinary competition. Norm Smith Dusty
Brownlow Nat Fyfe
Coleman Cameron

Post Trades and Draft

1. Richmond
2. Geelong
3. Port Adelaide
4. Brisbane
5. St.Kilda
6. Western Bulldogs
7. West Coast
8. Carlton
9. Melbourne
10. Gold Coast
11. Fremantle
12. Sydney
13. GWS
14. Hawthorn
15. Adelaide
16. Essendon
17. Collingwood
18. North Melbourne


Half Crowds
Full season
West Coast and Fremantle in Eastern states hub
Richmond to win flag
Norm Smith Dusty again
Brownlow Nat Fyfe
Coleman Cameron
 

THE_GUN

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1) Richmond
2) Port Adelaide
3) Brisbane
4) West Coast
5) Geelong
6) St Kilda
7) Western Bulldogs
8) Carlton
9) Melbourne
10) GWS
11) Fremantle
12) Essendon
13) Gold Coast
14) Collingwood
15) Sydney
16) Hawthorn
17) Adelaide
18) North Melbourne

Common Tigers Just 1 more
 

dylan93

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Post Draft Prediction:

1. Brisbane
2. Richmond
3. Geelong
4. Western Bulldogs
5. West Coast
6. Melbourne
7. Port Adelaide
8. St. Kilda
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9. Fremantle
10. Collingwood
11. Carlton
12. GWS
13. Gold Coast
14. Essendon
15. Sydney
16. Hawthorn
17. Adelaide
18. North Melbourne

2021 Finals:

Week 1:


Brisbane vs. Western Bulldogs
West Coast vs. St. Kilda
Melbourne
vs. Port Adelaide
Richmond vs. Geelong

Week 2:

Western Bulldogs vs. St. Kilda
Geelong vs. Melbourne

Week 3:

Brisbane vs. Melbourne
Richmond vs. Western Bulldogs

Grand Final: Brisbane DEF. Richmond by 9 points.

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Coleman Medal: Tom Lynch
Rising Star: Matt Rowell
Premiers: Brisbane
 

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Melbourne
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Collingwood
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Sydney
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Hawthorn
Adelaide
North Melbourne
 

BarbieITFC

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Post draft

1: Brisbane
2: Geelong
3: Western Bulldogs
4: Richmond
5: Port Adelaide
6: West Coast
7: St Kilda
8: GWS
9: Fremantle
10: Melbourne
11: Gold Coast
12: Collingwood
13: Carlton
14: Sydney
15: Essendon
16: Adelaide
17: Hawthorn
18: North Melbourne

Finals:

Week 1:


Brisbane vs. Richmond
Geelong vs. Bulldogs
Port Adelaide
vs. GWS
West Coast vs. St Kilda

Week 2:

Richmond vs. Port Adelaide
Geelong
vs. West Coast

Week 3:

Brisbane vs. Geelong
Bulldogs vs. Port Adelaide

Grand Final: Bulldogs DEF. Brisbane

Brownlow Medal: Neale (back to back)
Coleman Medal: Cameron (J)
Rising Star: Hayden Young
 

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Ok let's see. Not as easy as I thought either

Port Adelaide (Extremely underrated)
Brisbane
Geelong
West Coast

Geelong
St Kilda
Richmond
Western Bulldogs

Melbourne
Carlton
Fremantle
Collingwood
Essendon
GWS

Sydney
Hawthorn
Adelaide
North Melbourne

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BigBreakfast

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1. Brisbane
2. West Coast
3. Richmond
4. Geelong
5. St Kilda
6. Melbourne
7. Fremantle
8. Port Adelaide
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9. Western Bulldogs
10. Collingwood
11. GWS
12. Gold Coast
13. Sydney
14. Carlton.
15. Essendon
16. Hawthorn
17. Adelaide
18. North Melbourne
Carlton 14th Jeez! That’s cold.
 

Milanista28

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A few posters have us last (Entirely possible) and if we did finish last I'd expect Merrett to exercise his FA rights meaning we could have picks 1 and 2, How good is next years draft exactly?
 

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A few posters have us last (Entirely possible) and if we did finish last I'd expect Merrett to exercise his FA rights meaning we could have picks 1 and 2, How good is next years draft exactly?
It wont matter how good the next draft is. Finishing last would still condemn you to another 3-5 years in the cellar.
 

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