Prediction 2021 Early Ladder Predictions

WHO WILL MAKE THE 8

  • Adelaide

    Votes: 7 1.1%

  • Brisbane

    Votes: 344 56.0%

  • Carlton

    Votes: 62 10.1%

  • Collingwood

    Votes: 16 2.6%

  • Essendon

    Votes: 18 2.9%

  • Fremantle

    Votes: 41 6.7%

  • Geelong

    Votes: 256 41.7%

  • Gold Coast

    Votes: 25 4.1%

  • GWS

    Votes: 17 2.8%

  • Hawthorn

    Votes: 43 7.0%

  • Melbourne

    Votes: 35 5.7%

  • North Melbourne

    Votes: 14 2.3%

  • Port Adelaide

    Votes: 295 48.0%

  • Richmond

    Votes: 422 68.7%

  • St Kilda

    Votes: 121 19.7%

  • Sydney

    Votes: 12 2.0%

  • West Coast

    Votes: 147 23.9%

  • Western Bulldogs

    Votes: 107 17.4%
  • Total voters
    614

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Herne Hill Hammer said:
Ablett didn't play for a fair chunk of the season and was done after about 5 mins in the GF.

Cameron, Higgins and Smith are all better than whoever it is they'll be keeping out of the team. All 3 are younger than Ablett and Taylor.
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That’s fine, I just don’t think it necessarily follows that Geelong will be better. There’s form. There’s cohesion. There’s continued ageing in Higgins, Smith, Selwood, Dangerfield, Hawkins. And then there’s the fact that other teams like Brisbane, Port, St Kilda and West Coast will be snapping at your heels and who knows they may improve more.
So if someone dares to leave Geelong outside the top 4 in a prediction thread without seeing the fixture and 4 months before the season starts, I wouldn’t be getting all offended.
 
Craze said:
That’s fine, I just don’t think it necessarily follows that Geelong will be better. There’s form. There’s cohesion. There’s continued ageing in Higgins, Smith, Selwood, Dangerfield, Hawkins. And then there’s the fact that other teams like Brisbane, Port, St Kilda and West Coast will be snapping at your heels and who knows they may improve more.
So if someone dares to leave Geelong outside the top 4 in a prediction thread without seeing the fixture and 4 months before the season starts, I wouldn’t be getting all offended.
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Who's offended?

In my initial post, I never quoted anyone asking why they didn't Geelong on top, in the 4 or in the 8, I just posted up my list, nothing more, nothing less.

I listed who I think will make the top 8 and who wouldn't. The only club in the top 8 that I have in order is Geelong. I never posted that they would be better or worse, my reasoning is that following their trading strategy, if they don't win it then it's been a wasted year so a failure in the end.

The bottom 10 I put in a roughish order with the bottom 3 or so about where I think they'll end up.
 

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Herne Hill Hammer said:
Who's offended?

In my initial post, I never quoted anyone asking why they didn't Geelong on top, in the 4 or in the 8, I just posted up my list, nothing more, nothing less.

I listed who I think will make the top 8 and who wouldn't. The only club in the top 8 that I have in order is Geelong. I never posted that they would be better or worse, my reasoning is that following their trading strategy, if they don't win it then it's been a wasted year so a failure in the end.

The bottom 10 I put in a roughish order with the bottom 3 or so about where I think they'll end up.
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My reply was to a Geelong poster who grizzled because despite the addition of three players some thought, as is their right, that Geelong would drop away
 
Craze said:
My reply was to a Geelong poster who grizzled because despite the addition of three players some thought, as is their right, that Geelong would drop away
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Maybe you should have quoted him when you posted your whiny response.
 
Herne Hill Hammer said:
Maybe you should have quoted him when you posted your whiny response.
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Geelong supporter complains that not enough people have tipped Geelong for top 4, even though Cameron and Higgins and Smith have been added

I suggest that new players are no guarantee of success, especially if other clubs improve more, which is quite possible

You say that I am whining
 
Craze said:
Geelong supporter complains that not enough people have tipped Geelong for top 4, even though Cameron and Higgins and Smith have been added

I suggest that new players are no guarantee of success, especially if other clubs improve more, which is quite possible

You say that I am whining
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Well you are, I don't understand why you quoted me in the first place and you're still whining to me.
 
Craze said:
Geelong supporter complains that not enough people have tipped Geelong for top 4, even though Cameron and Higgins and Smith have been added

I suggest that new players are no guarantee of success, especially if other clubs improve more, which is quite possible

You say that I am whining
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Its an interesting point that - and which clubs are going to improve - and maybe contrary to most opinions - a team jumps out of the pack

You take Geel and Rich - no one after 2006 season was saying Geel would win flags - and it was exactly the same with Rich after 2016 ( especially losing the final game of that year by over 20 goals to Swans ) . But all the pieces came together and they won flags

So most think - the upcoming season - Bris StK WB Port - will take the next step - but will they - maybe a club outside that group can jump up - like Geel and Rich - and when it happens it just happens

One thing the draft/trading system has showed - is when a club gets it right - and all the bits of the jigsaw puzzle come together and they assemble a good list - they will win multiple flags .
 
Goggin Our Best said:
Its an interesting point that - and which clubs are going to improve - and maybe contrary to most opinions - a team jumps out of the pack

You take Geel and Rich - no one after 2006 season was saying Geel would win flags - and it was exactly the same with Rich after 2016 ( especially losing the final game of that year by over 20 goals to Swans ) . But all the pieces came together and they won flags

So most think - the upcoming season - Bris StK WB Port - will take the next step - but will they - maybe a club outside that group can jump up - like Geel and Rich - and when it happens it just happens

One thing the draft/trading system has showed - is when a club gets it right - and all the bits of the jigsaw puzzle come together and they assemble a good list - they will win multiple flags .
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And it’s really hard to predict. The top 4 is rarely the same two seasons in a row. You’ve given some great examples. Likewise sometimes a premiership fancy unexpectedly drops away, perhaps due to injuries, an internal club dynamics problem, ageing players, lack of motivation, a disconnect between coach and players, indiscipline or suspensions. So much also depends on the fixture.
 
Now that lists are settled, this is my ladder:

1. Geelong
2. Brisbane
3. Port Adelaide
4. Richmond
5. Melbourne
6. St Kilda
7. Bulldogs
8. West Coast
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9. Fremantle
10. Gold Coast
11. Carlton
12. GWS
13. Collingwood
14. Sydney
15. Hawthorn
16. Essendon
17. Adelaide
18. North Melbourne

Same top 4 and almost identical top 8 except Melbourne coming in at the expense of Collingwood. There's bound to be a couple of surprise jumps and surprise falls though
 
November 1 Ladder Prediction. Post season disappointment.


  1. Richmond
  2. Geelong
  3. West Coast
  4. Port Adelaide
  5. Brisbane
  6. Western Bulldogs
  7. Carlton
  8. St.Kilda
  9. Gold Coast
  10. Fremantle
  11. Melbourne
  12. Collingwood
  13. Sydney
  14. Adelaide
  15. Hawthorn
  16. Essendon
  17. GWS
  18. North Melbourne

No crowds
A Hub
17 rounds
Richmond to win flag against some very ordinary competition. Norm Smith Dusty
Brownlow Nat Fyfe
Coleman Cameron

Post Trades and Draft

1. Richmond
2. Geelong
3. Port Adelaide
4. Brisbane
5. St.Kilda
6. Western Bulldogs
7. West Coast
8. Carlton
9. Melbourne
10. Gold Coast
11. Fremantle
12. Sydney
13. GWS
14. Hawthorn
15. Adelaide
16. Essendon
17. Collingwood
18. North Melbourne


Half Crowds
Full season
West Coast and Fremantle in Eastern states hub
Richmond to win flag
Norm Smith Dusty again
Brownlow Nat Fyfe
Coleman Cameron
 
1) Richmond
2) Port Adelaide
3) Brisbane
4) West Coast
5) Geelong
6) St Kilda
7) Western Bulldogs
8) Carlton
9) Melbourne
10) GWS
11) Fremantle
12) Essendon
13) Gold Coast
14) Collingwood
15) Sydney
16) Hawthorn
17) Adelaide
18) North Melbourne

Common Tigers Just 1 more
 
Post Draft Prediction:

1. Brisbane
2. Richmond
3. Geelong
4. Western Bulldogs
5. West Coast
6. Melbourne
7. Port Adelaide
8. St. Kilda
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9. Fremantle
10. Collingwood
11. Carlton
12. GWS
13. Gold Coast
14. Essendon
15. Sydney
16. Hawthorn
17. Adelaide
18. North Melbourne

2021 Finals:

Week 1:

Brisbane vs. Western Bulldogs
West Coast vs. St. Kilda
Melbourne vs. Port Adelaide
Richmond vs. Geelong

Week 2:

Western Bulldogs vs. St. Kilda
Geelong vs. Melbourne

Week 3:

Brisbane vs. Melbourne
Richmond vs. Western Bulldogs

Grand Final: Brisbane DEF. Richmond by 9 points.

Brownlow Medal: Christian Petracca
Coleman Medal: Tom Lynch
Rising Star: Matt Rowell
Premiers: Brisbane
 

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Brisbane
Port Adelaide
Richmond
Bulldogs
Geelong
West Coast
St Kilda
Carlton
Melbourne
Fremantle
Gold Coast
Collingwood
GWS
Sydney
Essendon
Hawthorn
Adelaide
North Melbourne
 
Post draft

1: Brisbane
2: Geelong
3: Western Bulldogs
4: Richmond
5: Port Adelaide
6: West Coast
7: St Kilda
8: GWS
9: Fremantle
10: Melbourne
11: Gold Coast
12: Collingwood
13: Carlton
14: Sydney
15: Essendon
16: Adelaide
17: Hawthorn
18: North Melbourne

Finals:

Week 1:

Brisbane vs. Richmond
Geelong vs. Bulldogs
Port Adelaide vs. GWS
West Coast vs. St Kilda

Week 2:

Richmond vs. Port Adelaide
Geelong vs. West Coast

Week 3:

Brisbane vs. Geelong
Bulldogs vs. Port Adelaide

Grand Final: Bulldogs DEF. Brisbane

Brownlow Medal: Neale (back to back)
Coleman Medal: Cameron (J)
Rising Star: Hayden Young
 
Ok let's see. Not as easy as I thought either

Port Adelaide (Extremely underrated)
Brisbane
Geelong
West Coast

Geelong
St Kilda
Richmond
Western Bulldogs

Melbourne
Carlton
Fremantle
Collingwood
Essendon
GWS

Sydney
Hawthorn
Adelaide
North Melbourne

On RMX1941 using BigFooty.com mobile app
 
Marmozet said:
1. Brisbane
2. West Coast
3. Richmond
4. Geelong
5. St Kilda
6. Melbourne
7. Fremantle
8. Port Adelaide
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9. Western Bulldogs
10. Collingwood
11. GWS
12. Gold Coast
13. Sydney
14. Carlton.
15. Essendon
16. Hawthorn
17. Adelaide
18. North Melbourne
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Carlton 14th Jeez! That’s cold.
 
Young Gun #6 said:
1) Geelong
2) Richmond
3) Port Adelaide
4) Brisbane
5) West Coast
6) St Kilda
7) Western Bulldogs
8) Carlton
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
9) Collingwood
10) Melbourne
11) GWS
12) Essendon
13) Gold Coast
14) Fremantle
15) Sydney
16) Hawthorn
17) North Melbourne
18) Adelaide
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shock horror - a poortie picking afc to finish last!!
 
Milanista28 said:
A few posters have us last (Entirely possible) and if we did finish last I'd expect Merrett to exercise his FA rights meaning we could have picks 1 and 2, How good is next years draft exactly?
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It wont matter how good the next draft is. Finishing last would still condemn you to another 3-5 years in the cellar.
 
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