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[L_W_P]

I said 6 - 10 on Sunday and a lot of people laughed, but you cant do what he did

Any suspension of 8 weeks or greater would end his career.

He's already got 8 weeks worth of suspensions under his belt so another 8 weeks means he's deregistered.

Edit: Thankfully he only got 3.

 

[SaintBilly]

Any suspension of 8 weeks or greater would end his career.

He's already got 8 weeks worth of suspensions under his belt so another 8 weeks means he's deregistered.

Wtf???? Are you serious?

 

[Mowman]

Any suspension of 8 weeks or greater would end his career.

He's already got 8 weeks worth of suspensions under his belt so another 8 weeks means he's deregistered.

All the more reason not to touch an umpire

just dumb thing to do

 

[L_W_P]

Wtf???? Are you serious?

Yep.

Any player who accumulates 16 weeks of suspensions is automatically deregistered.

They can appeal for to be re-registered once only, after they have sat out of the competition for at least 12 months.

 

[Mowman]

3 weeks for Toby, that's on the soft side

 

[Mowman]

Yep.

Any player who accumulates 16 weeks of suspensions is automatically deregistered.

They can appeal for to be re-registered once only, after they have sat out of the competition for at least 12 months.

Not sure that applies for AFL

 

[Sully111]

3 weeks for Toby, that's on the soft side

Yep. Got off light.

 

[SaintBilly]

Yep.

Any player who accumulates 16 weeks of suspensions is automatically deregistered.

They can appeal for to be re-registered once only, after they have sat out of the competition for at least 12 months.

Goddam. That’s absolute bullshit. When did this shit come in?

 

[Sully111]

Can the AFL appeal the sentence?

 

[Mowman]

Can the AFL appeal the sentence?

Hope they do

They need too

 

[L_W_P]

Not sure that applies for AFL

Yep that's for AFL.

State level takes the AFL record and drops it by 25%. So if you cop 16 at AFL level it goes back down to 12 for the local comp, giving players a chance to play local footy at least.

Greene has 5 weeks worth of suspensions left in his AFL career.

 

[Mowman]

Yep that's for AFL.

State level takes the AFL record and drops it by 25%. So if you cop 16 at AFL level it goes back down to 12 for the local comp, giving players a chance to play local footy at least.

Greene has 5 weeks worth of suspensions left in his AFL career.

WOW

 

[Bill Mohr]

Yep.

Any player who accumulates 16 weeks of suspensions is automatically deregistered.

They can appeal for to be re-registered once only, after they have sat out of the competition for at least 12 months.

It happened to a guy in the country last year and didnt it happen to a player closely aligned to an AFL heavy 2 or 3 yrs ago?-

 

[SaintBilly]

Three is fair. Sets enough of an example. If he had have got six weeks he may as well have punched the player he was complaining about to Stevic. Six weeks is MARGINALLY better than what Gaff got for punching Brayshaw. Think a lot of people here are letting their hatred for Toby cloud their judgment. Stevic himself said he didn’t feel threatened.

I genuinely love Toby Greene

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Toby Greene

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12.5

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10.2

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4.8

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3.0

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1.2

4star

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17.5

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9.5

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8.0

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4.8

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26.6

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4.8

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3.6

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0.0

1star

but ffs stop doing dumb shit.

 

[Sully111]

Hope they do

They need too

Yeah i think he's a punk, but i'm not obsessed with him like others. This was blatant though. It was a tough guy move meant to intimidate an umpire. Someone does that to you at a pub and you're pretty clear what they're about.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Three is fair. Sets enough of an example. If he had have got six weeks he may as well have punched the player he was complaining about to Stevic. Six weeks is MARGINALLY better than what Gaff got for punching Brayshaw. Think a lot of people here are letting their hatred for Toby cloud their judgment. Stevic himself said he didn’t feel threatened.

I genuinely love Toby Greene but ffs stop doing dumb sh*t.

I think it is the way that he did it and showed no respect. He more than plays on the edge. regardless of him being a top footballer and making out it was an accident is weak as piss IMO. Recall the times he used to stick his foot out and kick players in the head- did it twice. Would have got his jaw broke if he did that in some of the VIC country leagues. I've got no time for the squeezer now, he should have got 6 weeks and the AFL send out a message.

 

[BrutThough]

Three is fair. Sets enough of an example. If he had have got six weeks he may as well have punched the player he was complaining about to Stevic. Six weeks is MARGINALLY better than what Gaff got for punching Brayshaw. Think a lot of people here are letting their hatred for Toby cloud their judgment. Stevic himself said he didn’t feel threatened.

I genuinely love Toby Greene but ffs stop doing dumb sh*t.

The calls from people saying 6 weeks, or even 12 weeks are extremely over the top.

Obviously, you cant touch umpires and the optics behind it aren't great but an incident where the ump never felt threatened or even felt the need report Greene himself shouldn't be given the same level of suspension as punching someone in the jaw or the same amount of weeks as Walker got for racially abusing Robbie Young.

 

[SaintBilly]

I happen to like him so I probably should shit my mouth about past indiscretions but that studs up crap is rubbish. If any other player did it they wouldn’t care. I recall Riewoldt doing it twice in a Game two years ago and everyone argued that it was unfair. But cuz it’s Toby… again the bloke doesn’t do himself any favours but I get sick of the trial by media. Saying three weeks is making an example. He won’t win a premiership this year anymore. Saying six weeks is saying he’s almost as bad as Gaff.

 

[SaintBilly]

The calls from people saying 6 weeks, or even 12 weeks are extremely over the top.

Obviously, you cant touch umpires and the optics behind it aren't great but an incident where the ump never felt threatened or even felt the need report Greene himself shouldn't be given the same level of suspension as punching someone in the jaw or the same amount of weeks as Walker got for racially abusing Robbie Young.

Exactly the point I’m making. look at Hawkins in the “dont ****ing touch me” incident. That got one week. Why does this get more? Oh right because it’s Toby ****ing Greene.

gimme a spell.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Three seems fair to me, means he’ll also miss the rest of the year no matter the rest of the GWS finals campaign.

 

[Elvis Winmar]

GWS arguing that it ‘wasn’t deliberate’ on Greene’s part was absolutely laughable.

So you’re telling me that one of the AFL’s most evasive players, a guy who can leave defenders clutching at thin air, ‘accidentally’ walked into an umpire who was standing completely still and wearing fluoro yellow? Give me a spell.

For what it’s worth, I think he’s extremely lucky to get 3 weeks, rather than 5 or 6. Stevic did him a massive favor.

 

[Bill Mohr]

I happen to like him so I probably should sh*t my mouth about past indiscretions but that studs up crap is rubbish. If any other player did it they wouldn’t care. I recall Riewoldt doing it twice in a Game two years ago and everyone argued that it was unfair. But cuz it’s Toby… again the bloke doesn’t do himself any favours but I get sick of the trial by media. Saying three weeks is making an example. He won’t win a premiership this year anymore. Saying six weeks is saying he’s almost as bad as Gaff.

Gaff's tribunal history is very minor compared to Greene's, so where's the comparison based on records? Gaff threw a lucky punch that broke a players jaw.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Any suspension of 8 weeks or greater would end his career.

He's already got 8 weeks worth of suspensions under his belt so another 8 weeks means he's deregistered.

Edit: Thankfully he only got 3.

I think that rule only applies to the lower leagues, not AFL

 

[pebblesofsand]

The calls from people saying 6 weeks, or even 12 weeks are extremely over the top.

Obviously, you cant touch umpires and the optics behind it aren't great but an incident where the ump never felt threatened or even felt the need report Greene himself shouldn't be given the same level of suspension as punching someone in the jaw or the same amount of weeks as Walker got for racially abusing Robbie Young.

Not true - Stevic didn't report it because he wasn't sure if he may have moved and contributed to the contact. He said at the tribunal that after watching the tape, its clear he didn't move and the contact was intentional.

Interesting to see what the AFL does given that the finding was that

“Greene had a full view of the umpire ... he was looking straight at the umpire. The umpire was stationary. Jury finds Greene’s conduct was disrespectful, demonstrative and aggressive.”

And the AFL Counsel had then argued to the jury for a tough suspension because

“You’ve found that he has intentionally breached the rule.

“You have rejected his repeated insistence that his act was not intentional.

“Your submission should say to anyone who plays the game ‘do not do this.’”

Gleeson says Greene must be suspended for no less than six weeks.


On that basis they'd have to appeal - and they should!!

 

[CaptainRisky]

LWP Your correct

3.2.2 Criteria for Deregistration (a) Players i) Players shall be automatically deregistered and not allowed further registration with the same or another Club or League (except in accordance with section 3.3) if the Player has served a combined total of sixteen (16) matches Suspension (or greater) as a Player or Official (including as a Player during the Player’s AFL Competition career, subject to section 3.2.2(c) below) as a result of Reportable Offences only. For the avoidance of doubt, a Player who is deregistered will also not be allowed to act as an Official in the same or another League or in any Competition.