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Ticky009

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Eagles could be in a bit of strife, rumoured 3 players ala Liam Jones route.
Kelly, Gov, Darling are the names being bandied about.
 

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Eagles could be in a bit of strife, rumoured 3 players ala Liam Jones route.
Kelly, Gov, Darling are the names being bandied about.
I've heard the Darling rumour, but not the other two.
It is also being reported Levi Casboult has postponed vaccination until the Novavax vaccine arrives from the USA, which will apparently be later this year, although it has not yet been approved by the TGA.
Unlike Pfizer and Moderna, which are mRNA vaccines, and AstraZeneca - a viral vector vaccine - the Novavax COVID-19 vaccine is a protein vaccine (as per The Age).

Of course the rookie draft where Casboult was thought likely to be picked up by the Suns is next week.

 

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Your last sentence is the "obvious friction" I'm talking about.

If I am understanding yours and others gripe with Greenwood, it is one of the following:

A) At the time of his delisting when the Gold Coast Suns were his only option for a playing career, and that club was receiving scrutiny for delisting him, he shouldn't have posted a tweet clarifying the situation and assuaging the scrutiny?

Or B) That once he had posted that tweet, he had declared his allegiance to the Gold Coast Suns and should therefore have allowed that tweet to dictate his career and the future for him and his family?

Both are mad, in my opinion.
My gripe isn't the tweet. My gripe is that he had obviously agreed to the idea with the Suns. There is no way they'd have delisted him if they thought he might walk, they'd probably just have found someone else. The tweet is just evidence of what went on behind the scenes, that they'd discussed and agreed a continuation of terms. He then reneged on the agreement.
 

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My gripe isn't the tweet. My gripe is that he had obviously agreed to the idea with the Suns. There is no way they'd have delisted him if they thought he might walk, they'd probably just have found someone else. The tweet is just evidence of what went on behind the scenes, that they'd discussed and agreed a continuation of terms. He then reneged on the agreement.
I'm not denying that he reneged on the agreement, I'm saying he was within his rights to because it was likely an agreement that was forced due to lack of other options.

The blame is squarely on Gold Coast's shoulders. They showed their hand by making the first move to fracture the relationship between player and club, and they showed their hand again by declaring their intentions publicly and leaving a quality player on the open market as fair game for rival clubs.

Gold Coast were careless and idiotic; North were cunning and ballsy; Greenwood was rejected and disillusioned. I know who I have the most sympathy for out of the three parties.
 

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I'm not denying that he reneged on the agreement, I'm saying he was within his rights to because it was likely an agreement that was forced due to lack of other options.

The blame is squarely on Gold Coast's shoulders. They showed their hand by making the first move to fracture the relationship between player and club, and they showed their hand again by declaring their intentions publicly and leaving a quality player on the open market as fair game for rival clubs.

Gold Coast were careless and idiotic; North were cunning and ballsy; Greenwood was rejected and disillusioned. I know who I have the most sympathy for out of the three parties.
Wrong
 

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It was definitely stupid from GCS, and scummy from Greenwood, as well as NM.

But I would be happy if the swans did that with a player we wanted.
 

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Can't say I have that much sympathy for GC. If they delisted the guy, they had to be prepared for the possibility that he goes somewhere else. Perhaps they saw him as fairly expendable.
 

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I'm not denying that he reneged on the agreement, I'm saying he was within his rights to because it was likely an agreement that was forced due to lack of other options.

The blame is squarely on Gold Coast's shoulders. They showed their hand by making the first move to fracture the relationship between player and club, and they showed their hand again by declaring their intentions publicly and leaving a quality player on the open market as fair game for rival clubs.

Gold Coast were careless and idiotic; North were cunning and ballsy; Greenwood was rejected and disillusioned. I know who I have the most sympathy for out of the three parties.
Ok, I just don't see how Greenwood can be classified as rejected and disillusioned, because there's no evidence for it, and he's come out and said that his infamous tweet was 100% true at the time. So he was fine with Gold Coast's actions (likely because he was consulted and agreed to it beforehand), he just changed his mind. True, Gold Coast gave him the possibility to do that, but if you tell them you're fine with it and you had agreed to stay on, it's pretty low in my book. Nothing 'illegal', just poor form towards the club that gave him a bigger role and likely more $$ to get out of Adelaide (the club, the city is great ;) ).
 
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It was definitely stupid from GCS, and scummy from Greenwood, as well as NM.

But I would be happy if the swans did that with a player we wanted.
Suns have for years lost players at the end of the season. This year other than retirements and minimal delistings they retained everyone. Not a bad turnaround.

Problem is they still have to pick 3 in the draft. Maybe they thought that a near 30 year old with 80 games to their name would be a low risk of leaving if delisted.
 

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Ticky009

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Suns have for years lost players at the end of the season. This year other than retirements and minimal delistings they retained everyone. Not a bad turnaround.

Problem is they still have to pick 3 in the draft. Maybe they thought that a near 30 year old with 80 games to their name would be a low risk of leaving if delisted.
They probably did. And to be fair, I can't recall the last time a team got gazzumped like this. Bit of a perfect storm, Norf have the coin to pay overs and Greenwood isn't a local boy.
 

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So as I understand it he has at GC 1 year at 400k with an option for a second.
North offer 2 years at 500 with an option for a third.
GC left the door open, why wouldn't he walk through it?
 

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Am I the only one wondering whether north enquired about Dawson? Or that we at least sounded them out to see if they'd be willing to step in to help hold adelaide accountable.
 

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So as I understand it he has at GC 1 year at 400k with an option for a second.
North offer 2 years at 500 with an option for a third.
GC left the door open, why wouldn't he walk through it?
Pus if the second year is in the clubs favour at GC and you've just been delisted you are hardly thinking "well they'll give me the second"
 

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Am I the only one wondering whether north enquired about Dawson? Or that we at least sounded them out to see if they'd be willing to step in to help hold adelaide accountable.
Believe the Crows intended to heavily front end his contract to make that very difficult. Suits their intentions for next year too. Never realistically on.
 

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Heard David Noble on SEN this morning , he's very impressive and has always had great wraps on him . He explained that there is a very close connection with Greenwood going back to his Grandfather and i think he only left because of Noble . Hate to say it but like Brisbane did they have picked up a beauty.
Yep. I heard him too. Just a very impressive person and such a pity he is at Norf.
 

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Eagles could be in a bit of strife, rumoured 3 players ala Liam Jones route.
Kelly, Gov, Darling are the names being bandied about.
I mean, each to their own on autonomy of choice and body but that is a large amount of momey to leave on the table considering they have *probably* had plenty of vaccines in their life.
 

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