Injury 2021 Injury Thread

[Harris Specter]

Looks like we are missing Selwyn Griffith (?) more than people realise. Was the head of medical at Lions, who went to Melbourne, and now their medical team/injury list is looking fantastic. Some of our injuries have just been plain unlucky (Neale/Hipwood) but others have been a combination of who knows.

 

[Nunez]

Adams is out training with the boys and engaged in drills. Good signs.

 

[lionsrules]

Can Adams and Gardiner be in the same team? If so does it come down to Lester being dropped and Adams pushed forward as we head into finals when both are back up and running?

 

[KissKiss]

Can Adams and Gardiner be in the same team? If so does it come down to Lester being dropped and Adams pushed forward as we head into finals when both are back up and running?

Personally I think we can only play two of Adams/Payne/Gardiner/Lester to pair with Andrews. Which is the best combination now and for the future is a tough question

 

[Nunez]

Personally I think we can only play two of Adams/Payne/Gardiner/Lester to pair with Andrews. Which is the best combination now and for the future is a tough question

Andrews, Adams & Gardiner are a pretty formidable trio.

 

[jackess]

Personally I think we can only play two of Adams/Payne/Gardiner/Lester to pair with Andrews. Which is the best combination now and for the future is a tough question

Agreed for most teams. West Coast and Geelong might be exceptions

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Personally I think we can only play two of Adams/Payne/Gardiner/Lester to pair with Andrews. Which is the best combination now and for the future is a tough question

I think it depends on where the club thinks we are in terms of premiership contention, in which it looks like in the short-term.

If we are looking at the short-term future of the club, I think the club believes Andrews, Gardiner & Adams are the best trio, with Payne & Lester in the reserves.

If we are looking at the long-term future of the club though, I think that the best trio IMO will be Andrews, Gardiner & Payne, with Adams depth for Payne & Lester depth for Gardiner.

 

[Tom14]

Can Adams and Gardiner be in the same team? If so does it come down to Lester being dropped and Adams pushed forward as we head into finals when both are back up and running?

Yes they can, and no Adams will not be pushed forward. Why take a 7.5-8/10 player and move him to a position where he is probably 4/10 at best?

 

[bungalow_bill]

Yes they can, and no Adams will not be pushed forward. Why take a 7.5-8/10 player and move him to a position where he is probably 4/10 at best?

Adams is crucial to our back line. Forward line is packed with stars even without Hip and doing fine

 

[POBT]

Yes they can, and no Adams will not be pushed forward. Why take a 7.5-8/10 player and move him to a position where he is probably 4/10 at best?

They may decide that the top 22 is better with Lester rather than, say, Fullarton. Using arbitrary values, maybe a Lester 6 out of 10 and Adams forward 4 out of 10 is seen as better than Adams defender = 7.5 and Fullarton = 2.

Not suggesting this will happen but it shouldn’t be completely written off as an option in a Hipwood-less forward line. We may need to manufacture a marking target up forward if we can’t get a contest from Fullarton or a restructure.

 

[morsie]

Why not play Froggy as a defensive forward

 

[Dalions]

Why not play Froggy as a defensive forward

I think at this stage if Froggy isn’t in the team as a defender than he ain’t in the team.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Can Adams and Gardiner be in the same team? If so does it come down to Lester being dropped and Adams pushed forward as we head into finals when both are back up and running?

Why not play Andrews as a leading forward similar to how Hipwood operated and then allow Gardiner & Adams back in defence, when fit

Our coaches might want to trial that experiment again over the upcoming pre-season until Hipwood is back, if we can't find a mature option in the F50 next season to fill that void for 12 months such as Casboult (Carlton) or Lynch (Adelaide).

 

[Section 5]

Hopefully Adams is ready to go this week or soon as he will be important for finals
He does not have a great record in quick recovery from any type of injury
Always a first for everything i suppose
Be interesting to see the AFL injury list coming out sometime today
Last week Gardiner listed as 3-5 weeks

 

[Dalions]

Hopefully Adams is ready to go this week or soon as he will be important for finals
He does not have a great record in quick recovery from any type of injury
Always a first for everything i suppose
Be interesting to see the AFL injury list coming out sometime today
Last week Gardiner listed as 3-5 weeks

Interestingly, he was never listed on the injury list this time around.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Interestingly, he was never listed on the injury list this time around.

 

[Section 5]

New injury list dated today
So Gardiner basically the same as last week (3-5 weeks)

Nice to know Adams can resume walking

Marcus Adams	Foot	2-4 weeks
Noah Answerth 43 Noah Answerth Age 24 Ht 183cm Wt 82kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 12.0 3star K 8.6 3star HB 3.4 3star M 3.7 4star T 2.9 4star G 0.1 2star D 15.0 4star K 15.0 5star HB 0.0 1star M 4.0 4star T 2.0 3star G 0.0 1star D 12.0 3star K 7.8 3star HB 4.2 4star M 3.4 4star T 3.0 5star G 0.0 1star	Groin	TBC
Darcy Gardiner 27 Darcy Gardiner Age 28 Ht 192cm Wt 91kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 12.6 3star K 7.4 3star HB 5.2 4star M 4.1 4star T 2.1 4star MG 196.1 3star D 10.7 3star K 7.9 3star HB 2.9 2star M 3.7 4star T 2.1 3star MG 196.1 3star D 10.2 3star K 6.0 3star HB 4.2 4star M 3.6 4star T 1.8 4star	Shoulder	2-4 weeks
Eric Hipwood 30 Eric Hipwood Age 26 Ht 203cm Wt 94kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 10.0 3star K 7.4 3star HB 2.6 2star M 3.9 4star T 1.3 3star G 1.5 5star D 11.1 3star K 8.4 3star HB 2.7 2star M 4.1 4star T 1.1 2star G 1.1 5star D 10.6 3star K 8.4 4star HB 2.2 2star M 3.6 4star T 1.6 4star G 2.4 5star	Knee	Season
Harry Sharp	Ankle	Season
Cam Rayner	Knee	Season
Updated: Tuesday, July 27

Early prognosis
Not much official coming out of the Lions, although Gardiner continues to ease towards a return. Adams is out of his moon boot after discovering a hot spot in his foot two weeks ago and has resumed walking. Neither player will make the week-plus road trip to play Hawthorn in Launceston and then Fremantle in Perth. - Michael Whiting

 

[M Malice]

My back 7 for finals at this stage would be >

Daniel Rich

10

Daniel Rich

Age

33

Ht

183cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

430.3

5star

D

14.9

4star

K

13.1

5star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

384.3

5star

D

16.2

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

5.2

5star

, Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

, Darcy Gardiner

27

Darcy Gardiner

Age

28

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

196.1

3star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

196.1

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

.
Jack Payne, Marcus Adams

24

Marcus Adams

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

5.0

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

57.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

6.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

235.8

4star

, Brandon Starcevich

37

Brandon Starcevich

Age

24

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

.

James Madden.

 

[T Rick]

New injury list dated today
So Gardiner basically the same as last week (3-5 weeks)

Nice to know Adams can resume walking

Marcus Adams	Foot	2-4 weeks
Noah Answerth	Groin	TBC
Darcy Gardiner	Shoulder	2-4 weeks
Eric Hipwood	Knee	Season
Harry Sharp	Ankle	Season
Cam Rayner	Knee	Season
Updated: Tuesday, July 27

Early prognosis
Not much official coming out of the Lions, although Gardiner continues to ease towards a return. Adams is out of his moon boot after discovering a hot spot in his foot two weeks ago and has resumed walking. Neither player will make the week-plus road trip to play Hawthorn in Launceston and then Fremantle in Perth. - Michael Whiting

"...week long road trip" - does this suggest that the Lions will fly to Perth from Tas and not return to Brisbane between games?

 

[lionshine]

New injury list dated today
So Gardiner basically the same as last week (3-5 weeks)

Nice to know Adams can resume walking

Marcus Adams	Foot	2-4 weeks
Noah Answerth	Groin	TBC
Darcy Gardiner	Shoulder	2-4 weeks
Eric Hipwood	Knee	Season
Harry Sharp	Ankle	Season
Cam Rayner	Knee	Season
Updated: Tuesday, July 27

Early prognosis
Not much official coming out of the Lions, although Gardiner continues to ease towards a return. Adams is out of his moon boot after discovering a hot spot in his foot two weeks ago and has resumed walking. Neither player will make the week-plus road trip to play Hawthorn in Launceston and then Fremantle in Perth. - Michael Whiting

Hopefully Adams and Gardiner can both return for our final Home and Away game against the Eagles and get a match under their belt before finals. I am much more confident of our chances this year if we have those two back in the side. Not only are they great players in their own right but Andrews plays infinitely better when those two are alongside him.

 

[lionshine]

"...week long road trip" - does this suggest that the Lions will fly to Perth from Tas and not return to Brisbane between games?

It does imply that yeah.

 

[lionshine]

My back 7 for finals at this stage would be >

Daniel Rich, Harris Andrews, Darcy Gardiner.
Jack Payne, Marcus Adams, James Madden.

Jaxon Prior.

Bit rough on Starcevich. Arguably been our best and most consistent defender all year. Guaranteed inclusion imo.

 

[M Malice]

Bit rough on Starcevich. Arguably been our best and most consistent defender all year. Guaranteed inclusion imo.

Doh!

I will edit.

 

[BangyBangy]

My back 7 for finals at this stage would be >

Daniel Rich, Harris Andrews, Darcy Gardiner.
Jack Payne, Marcus Adams, Brandon Starcevich.

James Madden.

You spelled Birchall wrong.

 

[BangyBangy]

"...week long road trip" - does this suggest that the Lions will fly to Perth from Tas and not return to Brisbane between games?

Yeah, I guess it's part of the protocol required when playing in Perth. They had Hardwick on 360 last night & he said Richmond flew straight there after getting their arse handed to them in their match on the weekend. I'm paraphrasing there