List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

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Giant Strides

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Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final

Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker



FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):

GWS List Summary

Senior List


33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)
 
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Caruso in that interview all but said we'll be taking Finn..that now seems a given.
We just Gibcus to slide all the way to us for the perfect night.
Question, if Amiss slides, I think this is a chance, would we take him??
 

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What if it's Erasmus who slides and not Gibcus or Amiss? Is he superior to anyone else at #13 (15)?

P.S. Just saw the article linking Essendon to Blake Howes. But the 'late mail' phantom at the end of the article had Howes going to Melbourne at #17 (19).
 

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As that dopey redhead says “Please Explain”
I'm guessing aeroplanes are the closest symbols he could find for Bombers. See the Callum Twomey ''late mail'' article.

Essendon has also been interested in tall wingman Blake Howes, with Chesser and Goater looming as the main contenders to come into that group. None of this trio are among the 14 players attending the draft events spread out around the country.

Cal Twomey’s late mail: Spotlight on TWO clubs, Vic mid intrigue (afl.com.au)
 

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I'm guessing aeroplanes are the closest symbols he could find for Bombers. See the Callum Twomey ''late mail'' article.

Essendon has also been interested in tall wingman Blake Howes, with Chesser and Goater looming as the main contenders to come into that group. None of this trio are among the 14 players attending the draft events spread out around the country.

Cal Twomey’s late mail: Spotlight on TWO clubs, Vic mid intrigue (afl.com.au)
Could’ve rolled with 💉
 

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We'd hope for that but there's no guarantee we ever get it, especially club like the Bulldogs which are one of our bigger rivals I'd much rather just screw them over and force them to lose more picks. We're competing clubs we should be doing everything we can to weaken our competition.
 

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We'd hope for that but there's no guarantee we ever get it, especially club like the Bulldogs which are one of our bigger rivals I'd much rather just screw them over and force them to lose more picks. We're competing clubs we should be doing everything we can to weaken our competition.
I don’t think there’s any issues at a club level between the 2 franchises.

The Western Bulldogs expansion team fans are the issue - not the people that work there.
 

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I don’t think there’s any issues at a club level between the 2 franchises.

The Western Bulldogs expansion team fans are the issue - not the people that work there.
Fine, even take out the rivalry part. Regardless they're a team we are comepting against to win a premiership and we're willlingly making it easier on them to get one of the best players in the draft.
 

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Off topic: we’re never challenging for a flag whilst Leon is coach.
We literally made a grand final and he was the coach, do you really think we lost against Richmond in 2019 because the coach wasn't good enough? If we can make a grand final with him as the coach then we can certainly win one with him as the coach, he's not the best coach in the competition but it doesn't all of a sudden get so much harder from a prelim to a grand final.
 

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We literally made a grand final and he was the coach, do you really think we lost against Richmond in 2019 because the coach wasn't good enough? If we can make a grand final with him as the coach then we can certainly win one with him as the coach, he's not the best coach in the competition but it doesn't all of a sudden get so much harder from a prelim to a grand final.
I said challenge; we didn’t challenge that day: and yes; his team selections leading up to that day put us behind the 8 Ball before a ball was bounced. Which is a part of his problem.
Like going back to the Mumford well during the most recent finals series.
But as I said; off topic and it’s been done to death.
 

Hendo_21

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I said challenge; we didn’t challenge that day: and yes; his team selections leading up to that day put us behind the 8 Ball before a ball was bounced. Which is a part of his problem.
Like going back to the Mumford well during the most recent finals series.
But as I said; off topic and it’s been done to death.
Regardless we shouldn't be making it easier on any of the other 17 clubs in the competition.
 

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Regardless we shouldn't be making it easier on any of the other 17 clubs in the competition.
You have to strike a balance with this sort of thing. Making rival clubs pay as much as possible sounds good and certainly has short-term benefit. But in the long-term it hurts you because other clubs will start doing the same thing in return.

Remember how Tom Green slid all the way to pick 10? No way that happens if we did business the way you're suggesting. Another club would pick him early just to spite us, because apparently that's what we would do if the shoe was on the other foot.
 

Hendo_21

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You have to strike a balance with this sort of thing. Making rival clubs pay as much as possible sounds good and certainly has short-term benefit. But in the long-term it hurts you because other clubs will start doing the same thing in return.

Remember how Tom Green slid all the way to pick 10? No way that happens if we did business the way you're suggesting. Another club would pick him early just to spite us, because apparently that's what we would do if the shoe was on the other foot.
It's a fair point
 

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Would be very open to moving back a couple spots to then still select Butler, seems to be a fair bit of movement all throughout picks 10-20 so moving back a little bit and still getting our guy plus an extra pick makes sense. Don't think there's too much danger of Butler getting nabbed by another club in that range and if he does there is still options left on the board for us to take.
 

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