List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

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Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker



FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):
www.bigfooty.com

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more
www.bigfooty.com www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)
 
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Danny88 said:
Dumont is a bit of a ball butcher isn’t he?
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Not the best, certainly not the worst in my view. Runs both ways is a positive. Not that I'd look at him though. Just don't think we need his type.

Brander, yes, try him as a Finlayson replacement.

Lienert I've posted about previously.

Boyd Woodcock I might be OK with.

Hartley I'd be OK as a PSSP fill-in for the two LTIs, but he seems to have signed on to Pies' VFL team.
 

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Sam Skinner might be a cheap depth option to give a rookie deal to. He has done 3 ACL’s so comes with big risk but I think he’s just completed an injury free season in SA and was impressive. He would be some good KPD depth.
 
A bit of a follow up on the Age article but more likely just random guesses

GWS is understood to be one of the clubs considering Brander, among others, after a trade period in which they missed out on Rory Lobb and Luke Breust. The Giants are keen to secure a bargain buy, with a host of names liked to the club. Michael Gibbons, Jay Lockhart and Ben Cavarra are also understood to be options for Leon Cameron’s squad.
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GWS among several clubs considering delisted Eagle (sen.com.au)
 
Rival clubs believe the Giants would be open to trading Pick 2 and prepared to strike a deal with a team that presents the best offer, but only if it meant the Giants could still secure their preferred prospect. It’s understood the Giants are seeking a key-position player – rather than a midfielder – at their first draft selection, with Dandenong Stingrays star Mac Andrew widely viewed as their top priority. Foxfooty.com.au understands both the Suns and Crows have already made inquiries about trading up to Pick 2.
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AFL draft 2021: Finn Callaghan attracts interest from multiple clubs, GWS Giants trade picks, Fremantle, Hawthorn (foxsports.com.au)
 
Andre the Giant said:
Just wait until draft night and see who blinks first and wants to be the draft donkey.
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What sort of deal do we think we will get ( from the clubs, not big footy).
If we want future picks( plus desisted player/s), do the following.
I would suggest trading out 13 for a future first.
Trade 2,gws2022r2,r3 for 5, Hawthorn 2022r1.
 

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sydney_gws said:
What sort of deal do we think we will get ( from the clubs, not big footy).
If we want future picks( plus desisted player/s), do the following.
I would suggest trading out 13 for a future first.
Trade 2,gws2022r2,r3 for 5, Hawthorn 2022r1.
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That'd be a fair trade, but I reckon where Hawthorne sit they are better off taking 5 and keeping their first round next year. 2 for 1 deals suit strong lists bringing in top talent, not developing lists
 
GWS Goose said:
I just want us to keep 2, take the obvious choice in Callaghan, no need to get tricky with the high picks.
Pick 13, sure, take a guy with high risk, high reward.
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I tend to agree. Even if he wanted to leave, we would get a good pick as replacement as long as he plays OK. He appears to be quite different to hopper,green, taranto, which is very important in mine and probably most people's view.
 
GWS Goose said:
A elite runner who is 189cm with good skills, you can put him anywhere, you can't have too many of that type.
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The thing is if you take him and he is a bust he was the projected 2 but if you don’t take him and he’s a star and the guy you traded back for ends up a bum it could look all kinds of ugly. They need to be super careful here, too many good judges love this guy.
 
Andre the Giant said:
The thing is if you take him and he is a bust he was the projected 2 but if you don’t take him and he’s a star and the guy you traded back for ends up a bum it could look all kinds of ugly. They need to be super careful here, too many good judges love this guy.
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Exactly!
It is the safest pick. He looks like hell at least be a good player and could be an excellent player.
In all likelihood there will be others who end up better, but God knows which players.
Taking Andrew with our first pick is madness imo. He could well be a star, but it is an enormous risk. A 70kg ruckman requires so much development to make the field.
High risk, high reward selections have their place, but not at 2.
 
GWS Goose said:
I just want us to keep 2, take the obvious choice in Callaghan, no need to get tricky with the high picks.
Pick 13, sure, take a guy with high risk, high reward.
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Pat McKenna
Jono O’Rourke
Matthew Buntine
Paul Ahearn
Aidan Bonar
Jarrod Pickett

These are all guys we ‘reached’ for.

Not a great roll call.
 
GWS Goose said:
Exactly!
It is the safest pick. He looks like hell at least be a good player and could be an excellent player.
In all likelihood there will be others who end up better, but God knows which players.
Taking Andrew with our first pick is madness imo. He could well be a star, but it is an enormous risk. A 70kg ruckman requires so much development to make the field.
High risk, high reward selections have their place, but not at 2.
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I wonder if we keep 2 and want Finn, if we won't bid on Daicos or Darcy. Finn might prefer to be pick 2 than 4. Also if no father sons where in place, would we really pick Darcy over Finn. We would pick daicos or JFH over Finn, but probably not Darcy.
 
Like most here the Callaghan pick is a no brainer and it will take a great offer for the club to give it up
Hawks #5 + 22 1st rd
Crows #4 + 22 1st rd
Dockers #6 + #8
Without those 2 top 10 picks I don't see it being attractive enough for the club and if the club sends anything back it should be a 22 2nd rd

If the club is that keen on Andrew package #13 + 22 1st rd to move up on draft night

Leaving Callaghan, Andrew, Fahey and DFA as the ideal draft night imo

With the lack of underage games the last 2 years I can see Callaghan playing close to an entire season of reserves and maybe a debut depending on how the club is travelling

www.afl.com.au

Trade it or use it? Giants hold key to draft with 'new pick No.1'

Greater Western Sydney's first pick is set to shape the draft
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au
 
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captainMyCaptain said:
On the flipside Haynes, Taranto and Ash were also reaches to some degree
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Taranto wasn't really. He had shot up the draft list late, but he was definitely in consideration for the Lions before the trade though they rathered McCluggage.

Haynes was predicted as a chance to go to the Lions at pick 8 because we were desperate for KPP talent, which is why the Giants took him at 7. The Lions took Longer, a pick that the less said about the better.

I don't recall Ash being a huge reach, but I remember it more being a case of a bunch of guys being rated similarly after Rowell. Even Anderson was similar but everyone assumed GC would take him because of the Rowell link.
 
fridgeman said:
Like most here the Callaghan pick is a no brainer and it will take a great offer for the club to give it up
Hawks #5 + 22 1st rd
Crows #4 + 22 1st rd
Dockers #6 + #8
Without those 2 top 10 picks I don't see it being attractive enough for the club and if the club sends anything back it should be a 22 2nd rd

If the club is that keen on Andrew package #13 + 22 1st rd to move up on draft night

Leaving Callaghan, Andrew, Fahey and DFA as the ideal draft night imo

With the lack of underage games the last 2 years I can see Callaghan playing close to an entire season of reserves and maybe a debut depending on how the club is travelling

www.afl.com.au

Trade it or use it? Giants hold key to draft with 'new pick No.1'

Greater Western Sydney's first pick is set to shape the draft
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au
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I think the move is trade down if they’re not taking Callaghan. Every other club is likely to take Callaghan at 2 so might as well trade back at least a spot to secure someone else. Would be happy with Rachele or Gibcus in a small trade down. Next year is supposed to be filled with KPP so it’s important we have our first round pick then to address our issues if Gibcus isn’t selected or they want to target a forward.
 
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