List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

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Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker



FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):
www.bigfooty.com

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more
www.bigfooty.com www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)
 
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Giant Pete said:
Possibility for us?
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Delisted Demon set to be offered AFL lifeline

He was delisted shortly after Melbourne’s drought-breaking Grand Final win.
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au

Article says it is possible

Not sure if accurate as he would be moving cities for no guaranteed game time
I may be wrong but originally from Tassie and not sure of any links to current Giants
1st year at the Demons he may have played as a pressure forward as he could suit the club in that capacity
Able to play from rd 1, fill in for Toby, comp for spots as a small forward, should be cheap salary wise and more likely to play next year than any of the later pick small forwards in the draft and he may be happy to still be on a list and be ok with fighting for a spot in the 22
 
fridgeman said:

Delisted Demon set to be offered AFL lifeline

He was delisted shortly after Melbourne’s drought-breaking Grand Final win.
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au

Article says it is possible

Not sure if accurate as he would be moving cities for no guaranteed game time
I may be wrong but originally from Tassie and not sure of any links to current Giants
1st year at the Demons he may have played as a pressure forward as he could suit the club in that capacity
Able to play from rd 1, fill in for Toby, comp for spots as a small forward, should be cheap salary wise and more likely to play next year than any of the later pick small forwards in the draft and he may be happy to still be on a list and be ok with fighting for a spot in the 22
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I can't imagine he'd have too any others offers so if he wants to continue to play AFL we might be his only option. He might have a few more options to train with a club over the pre-season and earn a contract before the season starts but this offers more security which would have to play a factor.
 
www.theage.com.au

Big Mac: Andrew bulks up ahead of AFL draft

At the start of this year, Mac Andrew weighed 70 kilos and was viewed as a project player. Since then, he has changed his diet and hit the weights, adding 10 kilos, and is likely to be snapped up within the first 10 picks after a head-turning season.
www.theage.com.au www.theage.com.au

Mac up to 80 kg thanks to a good weights program and nutrition program, that's 10kg over the course of 6 months which is a fair effort. If Sam Darcy has been resting through his off time and foot injury I wonder if people have the same concerns about him as they do about Mac 🤗
 
PMBangers said:
www.theage.com.au

Big Mac: Andrew bulks up ahead of AFL draft

At the start of this year, Mac Andrew weighed 70 kilos and was viewed as a project player. Since then, he has changed his diet and hit the weights, adding 10 kilos, and is likely to be snapped up within the first 10 picks after a head-turning season.
www.theage.com.au www.theage.com.au

Mac up to 80 kg thanks to a good weights program and nutrition program, that's 10kg over the course of 6 months which is a fair effort. If Sam Darcy has been resting through his off time and foot injury I wonder if people have the same concerns about him as they do about Mac 🤗
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That’s actually ridic development
 
PMBangers said:
www.theage.com.au

Big Mac: Andrew bulks up ahead of AFL draft

At the start of this year, Mac Andrew weighed 70 kilos and was viewed as a project player. Since then, he has changed his diet and hit the weights, adding 10 kilos, and is likely to be snapped up within the first 10 picks after a head-turning season.
www.theage.com.au www.theage.com.au

Mac up to 80 kg thanks to a good weights program and nutrition program, that's 10kg over the course of 6 months which is a fair effort. If Sam Darcy has been resting through his off time and foot injury I wonder if people have the same concerns about him as they do about Mac 🤗
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I have huge concerns on Darcy.

Have commented a few times he looks way too lean.
 
With all the talk that the we're looking at multiple different small forward delisted options to fill that hole doesn't Rachele make sense for them in the event they trade down he'd still be expected to be avaliable if we move back to either 3 or 4 and likely at Hawthorns 5. Rachele at the moment is probably my second preferance in the event Callaghan isn't selected and we choose to trade down think he'd cause huge problems for teams paired with Toby i50.
 

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Hendo_21 said:
With all the talk that the we're looking at multiple different small forward delisted options to fill that hole doesn't Rachele make sense for them in the event they trade down he'd still be expected to be avaliable if we move back to either 3 or 4 and likely at Hawthorns 5. Rachele at the moment is probably my second preferance in the event Callaghan isn't selected and we choose to trade down think he'd cause huge problems for teams paired with Toby i50.
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Perhaps Lockhart is a ''backup option'' depending on what happens in the draft. Rachele was one of the players named as GWS being interested in - Callaghan, Andrew & Gibcus being the others. Obviously, there are a lot of machinations around trading up or down the draft (noting we could trade up from #13 to potentially grab someone, as well as or instead of trading down from #2) that the team would be looking at.

The point will be we only have the one early pick at the moment, so if we have Andrew as the No1 target, we cannot guarantee a second early draftee. And Rachele, whilst he might be in the mix, might not be the No2 target, but an alternative, so we might not get him even if he's around the mix. So we might be having an alternative plan ready to go, but not guaranteed.

An example scenario:

Trade with Hawks: #2 for #5 plus their two second round picks. #5 gets used on Andrew to lock our No1 target in. Then trade #13 plus a second round pick to say St Kilda (who are on record as wanting more picks this draft) for their #9. Hope that either Gibcus or Rachele is still there at that selection.

ND: JHF, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan/Hawks, Gibcus/Suns, Erasmus/Crows, Andrew/GWS, Amiss/Freo, Hobbs/Tigers, Johnson/Freo - bingo there's Rachele.

OR

ND: JHF, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan/Hawks, Gibcus/Suns, Rachele/Crows, Andrew/GWS, Erasmus/Freo, Hobbs/Tigers, Amiss/Freo - damn, missed them both!
 
Giant Strides said:
Perhaps Lockhart is a ''backup option'' depending on what happens in the draft. Rachele was one of the players named as GWS being interested in - Callaghan, Andrew & Gibcus being the others. Obviously, there are a lot of machinations around trading up or down the draft (noting we could trade up from #13 to potentially grab someone, as well as or instead of trading down from #2) that the team would be looking at.

The point will be we only have the one early pick at the moment, so if we have Andrew as the No1 target, we cannot guarantee a second early draftee. And Rachele, whilst he might be in the mix, might not be the No2 target, but an alternative, so we might not get him even if he's around the mix. So we might be having an alternative plan ready to go, but not guaranteed.

An example scenario:

Trade with Hawks: #2 for #5 plus their two second round picks. #5 gets used on Andrew to lock our No1 target in. Then trade #13 plus a second round pick to say St Kilda (who are on record as wanting more picks this draft) for their #9. Hope that either Gibcus or Rachele is still there at that selection.

ND: JHF, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan/Hawks, Gibcus/Suns, Erasmus/Crows, Andrew/GWS, Amiss/Freo, Hobbs/Tigers, Johnson/Freo - bingo there's Rachele.

OR

ND: JHF, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan/Hawks, Gibcus/Suns, Rachele/Crows, Andrew/GWS, Erasmus/Freo, Hobbs/Tigers, Amiss/Freo - damn, missed them both!
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Don't think I'd want to trade down any lower then Adelaide at 4 unless Hawthorn were willing to put a lot more on the table or Freo is offering a huge deal, thats just me though I'm not a big fan of Mac Andrews' fit with this team and would have him ranked 4th for us of the rumoured 4 players that we've been linked with. Would rank them: Callaghan, Rachele, Gibcus and then Mac. If the plan is to get Mac then they can likely get away with trading down to Hawthorn and if they're lucky Freo.
 
I’m not sure Mac could ever really play ruck in the AFL. Those fellas are so good at using their size to advantage. Look at Tim English.
 
Giant Pete said:
I’m not sure Mac could ever really play ruck in the AFL. Those fellas are so good at using their size to advantage. Look at Tim English.
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At this rate he'll just jump over them.
Personally I like him as a FF, if he develops strongly as a Ruck great.
I would love for him to be elite next year but we may only get a few more years out of Hogan. So we should be developing the next JC level forward.
I'm very excited for draft night. I think there is going to be a lot of live trading.
Tim English is a pretty stiff players. Mac (from the limited vision) seems to have great agility. I'm buying all the hype right now 😂
 
Callaghan/Mac aside
13(15) is going to be a fascinating pick. What do our list managers feel we need to sure up through the draft?
Sam Taylor was a pick 28....can we find his little brother or something?
 
PaythePerryman said:
Callaghan/Mac aside
13(15) is going to be a fascinating pick. What do our list managers feel we need to sure up through the draft?
Sam Taylor was a pick 28....can we find his little brother or something?
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I was hoping his little brother Luke might be a solid selection to join Sam at GWS. But it seems not - at least not this year. Injury didn't help.
 
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