I figure he's going to cost our first at a minimum, and be asking $650+
I don't think he's the right player for us to be spending that at this time.
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I figure he's going to cost our first at a minimum, and be asking $650+
I don't think he's the right player for us to be spending that at this time.
Hard for him to mark when his team mates are kicking it out of bounds.
I rate TDK as a ruck. Just needs a preseason in the weights room.[/QUOTE]
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800 average across 6
They’re ‘paying overs’ for Zac Williams, but Carlton’s savvy free agency move was still a ‘masterstroke’
They’re ‘paying overs’, but Carlton’s savvy free agency move was still a ‘masterstroke’
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According to Hutchy it was 800 by 6 but i did wonder if it was one of these front ended deals.
If Charlie, McGovern and McKay were ever fit at the same time another forward ruck is a luxury we couldn’t afford to have on the park, however considering Charlie and Mitch’s injury history it is sad but true that we need another.
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Interesting comment from Leigh Montagna last year:800 average across 6
They’re ‘paying overs’ for Zac Williams, but Carlton’s savvy free agency move was still a ‘masterstroke’
They’re ‘paying overs’, but Carlton’s savvy free agency move was still a ‘masterstroke’
St Kilda great Leigh Montagna concurred, but noted Williams’ main weakness was his fitness and ability to perform consistently in the midfield.
Fix that up, Montagna said, and his arrival could be key for the club’s finals hopes.
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Esava Ratogolea is th perfect Levi replacement..
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Yeah could get behind this also..
Depending what is available in trade week of course..
Not sure how deep the talent pool is in this year draft, haven't looked into it yet..
But if its pretty even, wouldn't mid swapping our top 5 pick for 2 picks in the first round...
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Top 5 pick as mentioned earlier will snare a good quality, goal kicking midfielder, there’s several , besides the two clear gems of draft 2021 , Horne & Daico the clear stand outs, there are another 3/4 very good midfielders in top 10 this year.
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We've had massive turnover in the last 10 years.
I strangely think that this is the year for the bare minimum ins and outs.
Move on your 5 or 6, bring in a few kids and maybe a moneyball freeagent/trade.
The skeleton of the team is undoubtedly there. It's now about playing to their ability.
I strangely think that this is the year for the bare minimum ins and outs.
Move on your 5 or 6, bring in a few kids and maybe a moneyball freeagent/trade.
The skeleton of the team is undoubtedly there. It's now about playing to their ability.
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We did get McKay and Curnow but also LOB. Weitering and Walsh were pick one, worth twice us much as the pick we will hold. Abit like if we wanted pick 1 this year it would cost around pick 6 and 10.
It’s the money that will be the problem. If we got a player like Cerra at pick 5 we would be over the moon.
OMac looked a decent Levi replacement in the off-season and could be a good short term solution while we find another option. He’s also very versatile and mobile which I think you need in that role.
would have been good to see TDK & Omac this year
While I like Cerra I’m not sure I’d give up our 1st pick this year (top 5). I really like the look of Sonsie this year
Id be okay with future 1st and SPS as an option.
Id be okay with future 1st and SPS as an option.
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I just dont see it with TDK being a permanent forward, what has he done so far in either AFL or VFL to suggest he could cut it at the top level as an elite (think Aaron Naughton) type forward.. I am yet to see a ruckmen since Paul Salmon who could learn the skills to become a good enough forward to permanently play in that position. TDK needs to be the #1 Ruck... Then we get a forward who can go in the ruck to relieve him..
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Murphy, Betts, Levi are probably 3 without looking at delisting's. Prior to last week Kennedy was a lock to be gone.. At the moment you would have to think SPS, LOB & Willo are looking for a new home.. Then we have a bunch of 23-26yo who are fringe best 22 in Newman, Newnes, Omc etc who are all out of contract.. I cant see it being less than a 10 player turnover..
Its sad but a reality i think we need to head back into the draft, use pick 5 or what ever it ends up being.. Besides Daicos it doesnt look like its going to be overly compromised at the top end with father son and academy picks like previous years.. Hopefully can turn SPS into a late 1st or early 2nd and have 3 picks in the top 30...
TDK isn't a first option forward.
He is a ruckman that will be a better threat forward than most of the pure, elite, ruckmen only
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Why in hell would we be considering moving Williams on after 10 games just because some think we're paying him too much?
Most accept that lower clubs like us need to pay overs for FA's and if he plays in a couple of premierships during his tenure no one, including Hutchy, will be complaining about what we paid. If he doesn't then he will be just like Buddy who hasn't played in a premiership for the Swans and who's pointing to his contract cost now?
Discussions around Williams' contract always omit that we were banking cap space that needed to be used in a certain time frame. This isn't money that would have gone to another player.
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King's agenda is Norf and he will be hoping he ends up there.
Cerra: Been in the system for 3 years. Has played 68 games, is 21 y.o of age and ready to have a breakout year.
Alternative: Go to draft, select very promising youngster, waste 5 years on them and then realise they are no good because we failed to develop them.
King will be pushing for Cerra to go to Norf.
If Cerra is available then grab him, because he is as good as top 5 pick, or unless there is someone clearly better than him. Might have to pay overs for him, but quality mids are very hard to find.
Lol Cerra won't go to North. He'll go to Richmond.
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We are stuck with Williams for 5 more years and McGovern for 2 more. McGovern has not worked out for us and is not the player we need.7 years in the AFL for 78 games. Getting older makes you more injury prone.
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Not if he is offered 700K over 5 years, which Richmond will not give him. Norf will have a lot of salary cap space, like we used to.
