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Have to say that I did not see gibbons being cut.
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Gee, Gibbons was far from our worst. Has a decent hammy injury and... see ya later. I've seen red headed step children get more love.
As for Sam Ramsay, never got there so hard to judge. He's only 20 as well.
Yep, its a cruel sport sometimes.
As for Sam Ramsay, never got there so hard to judge. He's only 20 as well.
Yep, its a cruel sport sometimes.
Who would've you cut in their place?
Both seem the logical first delistings. Shown nothing this year at senior level and not much more in the VFL due to lack of form and injuries. Easy decision for me.
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Handy player, can play as a small forward, which we lack. Going to rely on Owies and Durdin?
You know why not
Uncontracted when we need the list spot, competing with players like Cunners, Fish, Martin, Honey, Owies, Durdin for a smaller forward spot.
Would not have cut Gibbo or Ramsay and there are others that are lucky that they have contracts, but understandable given they were out of contract and needing list spots
Many of these guys weren't performing to the level of Gibbo and you know it
Not super suprising, Gibbo wasn't playing in a position of serious need, wasn't really producing form that warranted playing him ahead of kids (especially just prior to injury). Ramsay was still a skinny kid that was yet to find a position, when they shifted him to half back late in the year in the ressies it was pretty clear his papers were close to stamped
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I'm really not sure how David Cuningham retains his spot, tbh. People see something in him, that i don't, it seems.
He's close. Bottom 5-6 for sure.
Gibbo got a lot more games than he should have this year, but it's not about that. It's about next year, and the years to come.
I would keep Cuners along with most of the others, but the likes of Fog is lucky he has a contract. I don't rate Owies that highly long term
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Owies and Honey both in front of him as a small forward.
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Fair to say he was performing at least as good, probably better than any of that list. But they're all contracted, and he wasn't. (Owies aside, but he's a cat-B Rookie)
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You mean in your opinion, right?
Gibbo's stats outweighs many others that can play that role, but you already know that
Just like us delisting Ed, Newman and Newnes?
You base your opinion on bias, rather than analysis.
Fog did start off nicely early in the season, and its only been his first season at the club. A bit early to get rid of him already?
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I'd rather see the club give O'Brien one more chance than move forward with either of the two we cut, so on that basis I'm ok with it.
I also think Owies and Honey have shown enough that they would be preferred over Gibbo now and in the future. If we want emergency coverage, we could re-rookie him. We didn't see much of Ramsay, but Gibbo did a decent job for us in the time he had.
I also think Owies and Honey have shown enough that they would be preferred over Gibbo now and in the future. If we want emergency coverage, we could re-rookie him. We didn't see much of Ramsay, but Gibbo did a decent job for us in the time he had.
Well don't we need to free up space on the rookie list too? We are just going to retain them all?
Not suggesting that we move on Fog, was just surprised that we targeted him, given similar/better types. Given he is contracted, makes sense he stays
But, it isn't based on form over Gibbo
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The issue is Senior list spots. We have already added 6 (Hewett, Cerra, Young, 3 x ND), and we have only removed 3 (Murphy, Casboult, SPS). Betts doesn't count because he was a rookie, ditto Cottrell.
We still had to find another 3, and the only 3 uncontracted are Gibbons, Ramsay and LOB. So here we are. As of right now, we still have 1 Senior too many - and everyone is contracted except LOB. I suspect they are holding him in case we trade out a contracted player... but if we don't, he too looks to be gone.
LOB might be delisted and re-rookied, but it is conceivable that if he nominates for the National Draft, he won't be there for us to pick up. The "protected Senior-to-rookie" pathway than Kennedy took last year as part of the AFL's list reductions does not exist this year - we are back to the old rules.
I can't say I like it - Gibbons in particular is far from our worst - but for all the wailing about the state of our list, there seems to be a universal reluctance (on BF anyway) to actually part with anyone. We had to do something, and this writing has been on the wall for a long time. Ramsay/Gibbons were only ever going to stay if something catastrophic happened, like complete failure of the Cerra deal.
