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KohPhi

Brownlow Medallist
Jul 24, 2015
21,807
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Carlton
We don't have a lift spot to pick up Brayden Sier as a DFA do we? Pretty, decent player despite having some flaws (mainly with regards to training/work ethic)
SOS was pretty keen on Sier in his draft year.. if I remember correctly, the Pies grabbed him a few picks before our pick..
Not sure he'll be picked up, but can play.. as someone else alluded to, work ethic questionable (and I heard that from a relation of his!!!😆😆)
 

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Silky23

Club Legend
Feb 2, 2020
2,151
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Collingwood
We don't have a lift spot to pick up Brayden Sier as a DFA do we? Pretty, decent player despite having some flaws (mainly with regards to training/work ethic)
Decent player? Surely you're taking the absolute piss.

Apart from a span of two months in 2018 he was rubbish over the span of 6 years, as stated his training and work ethic is poor but if you watch his game if he doesn't win the footy as a first touch clearance guy he is completely diabolical on defence and doesn't know how to spread or mark the footy.

Not sure where this decent player type stuff comes from. He's OK if he's your 6th best MID option playing 60% TOG off the pine .... lmao
 

esoteric

All Australian
Sep 11, 2008
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Carlton
Better than an unknown quantity with pick 75 or whatever in the ND.
Depends if we are culturally mature enough with our playing group and if he can make a contribution most weeks, even as a depth/interchange player.

I personally would take the punt/risk, but could understand why many would be unwilling.
I would look at Trent Dumont before Brayden Sier. Only just turned 26 and significantly better output, plus a bit of mongrel.
 

Jeremias

Moderator
Sep 26, 2004
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I would look at Trent Dumont before Brayden Sier. Only just turned 26 and significantly better output, plus a bit of mongrel.
No contest between the two. Dumont then daylight.

If he doesn't re-sign at North though (which I'd find odd now the free agency period has passed) I'd say he'll end up back home in SA.
 

BlueTongue

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Oct 23, 2009
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VOSS IS BOSS

katmanblue

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Nov 27, 2016
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Carlton
Yep. Don't get the Cotters hate. This kid has shown plenty. Also don't get all th remarks about his poor kicking. As a field kick he's pretty good. Hits targets. Would have him in the side before Setters any day.
I don't think it's hate, rather some here think we can do better for that last spot. I doubt we could.

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Kangaroos4eva

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Aug 22, 2012
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No contest between the two. Dumont then daylight.

If he doesn't re-sign at North though (which I'd find odd now the free agency period has passed) I'd say he'll end up back home in SA.
We aren’t offering Dumont a contract. A good two-way runner and honest citizen, but we just can’t find a midfield spot for him next year.
 

WalshYouLegend

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Aug 10, 2019
385
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SOS was pretty keen on Sier in his draft year.. if I remember correctly, the Pies grabbed him a few picks before our pick..
Not sure he'll be picked up, but can play.. as someone else alluded to, work ethic questionable (and I heard that from a relation of his!!!😆😆)
His Mum who had to keep asking him to not leave his undies on the bathroom floor 🤣
 
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Jeremias

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Sep 26, 2004
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We aren’t offering Dumont a contract. A good two-way runner and honest citizen, but we just can’t find a midfield spot for him next year.
Very surprised by this.

Thought he was a certainty to head to SA with North banking a compensation pick.

I don’t rate him (though I’d still take him every day over Sier) but on a nothing contract I’d have thought he’s a fine experienced player for a rebuilding club to keep around.
 

Beyond Blue

Team Captain
Jun 25, 2021
518
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Yep. Don't get the Cotters hate. This kid has shown plenty. Also don't get all th remarks about his poor kicking. As a field kick he's pretty good. Hits targets. Would have him in the side before Setters any day.
Setters is very lucky he is contracted for 2022 otherwise I reckon he’d be in the same boat as LOB and Cotters.
 

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The Great Ian

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Sep 3, 2010
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Carlton
Nick Austin answers a few questions on list strategy in the latest interview on the club website.

Interesting that he seems high on Boyd as the lockdown defender. That would greatly improve our defence if he stepped up.

Also interesting that Austin still sees a deficiency in midfield/forward personnel which he identified as an area to focus on with draft picks.


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JuddgementDay

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Feb 10, 2010
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Carlton
Nick Austin answers a few questions on list strategy in the latest interview on the club website.

Interesting that he seems high on Boyd as the lockdown defender. That would greatly improve our defence if he stepped up.

Also interesting that Austin still sees a deficiency in midfield/forward personnel which he identified as an area to focus on with draft picks.


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We now have 3 definitely or possibly five of these lockdown players.
Plowman, Parks and Boyd - can be true lockdown players (non KPP i.e.)
Stoker - could be, but would be a waste of his talent doing that
Saad - again, can be but would be a waste of his talent doing that

Anyone else?
 

Christou2Kouta

Club Legend
Jul 7, 2018
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Carlton
Nick Austin answers a few questions on list strategy in the latest interview on the club website.

Interesting that he seems high on Boyd as the lockdown defender. That would greatly improve our defence if he stepped up.

Also interesting that Austin still sees a deficiency in midfield/forward personnel which he identified as an area to focus on with draft picks.


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Yeah, it was surprising that he listed Martin, Honey, Cuningham, Owies, Fisher, Durdin and Fogarty and then said it was still a need.
 

TENACIOUS

Club Legend
Aug 16, 2008
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Carlton
Some interesting delisted senior players the last few days...
If we are putting any players on the LTI list after the rookie draft, they may be worth considering as a DFA for a mature back up..

Lonie - we were big on him a couple of years ago
Constable - big accumulator but slow
Cousins - surprised he was delisted, speed and good skills
 

zeeCFC

With All The Champions
Oct 12, 2008
18,599
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Carlton
Yep. Don't get the Cotters hate. This kid has shown plenty. Also don't get all th remarks about his poor kicking. As a field kick he's pretty good. Hits targets. Would have him in the side before Setters any day.
Needs to improve his decision making, get bigger and despite your view on his kicking, I think it's below par for the league let alone an AFL wingman. Love his endeavour though and these are aspects of his game he can improve on with time and glad he's been given the opportunity.
 

Bletch

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Dec 8, 2020
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Carlton
Next year we’ll have about 10/12 players on primary list that will be un- contracted.
So much flexibility and tradable options too. This trade period had to be contest active.
I make it 15, plus the 7 rookies. Though you'd expect a few of them to be re-signed during the year (e.g. Walsh). You'd think we'll be a lot more active at next year's draft.
 

FRUMPY

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 18, 2006
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Needs to improve his decision making, get bigger and despite your view on his kicking, I think it's below par for the league let alone an AFL wingman. Love his endeavour though and these are aspects of his game he can improve on with time and glad he's been given the opportunity.
Add to that, just doesn't get enough of the ball as a winger. Nowhere near enough involved. And when he does get he misses targets way too often.

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Juddernaut08

Norm Smith Medallist
Nov 8, 2007
9,201
12,256
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Carlton
Yep. Don't get the Cotters hate. This kid has shown plenty. Also don't get all th remarks about his poor kicking. As a field kick he's pretty good. Hits targets. Would have him in the side before Setters any day.
He's a different type of player to Setterfield.

Cottrell: Elite tank, hard at it and good mark.
Also lacks footy smarts, worst kick in the team going inside 50 and can't accumulate possession.

Setters is a decent inside mid and can tackle well. He's a better overall player but is not suited to the wing, as he's a shocking mark.
 

Sheephead

Club Legend
Nov 23, 2009
1,936
5,606
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Carlton
Some interesting delisted senior players the last few days...
If we are putting any players on the LTI list after the rookie draft, they may be worth considering as a DFA for a mature back up..

Lonie - we were big on him a couple of years ago
Constable - big accumulator but slow
Cousins - surprised he was delisted, speed and good skills
Don’t need or want Lonie.
Constable is rated, worth taking the chance, costs nothing other than a list spot.
I rate Cousins.

There was noise in the trade period that the filth were looking at LOB. Maybe they open a spot for us.
 

BlueTongue

Premiership Player
Oct 23, 2009
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He's a different type of player to Setterfield.

Cottrell: Elite tank, hard at it and good mark.
Also lacks footy smarts, worst kick in the team going inside 50 and can't accumulate possession.

Setters is a decent inside mid and can tackle well. He's a better overall player but is not suited to the wing, as he's a shocking mark.
Biggest difference - Cotters tries and tries again. Setters never gets out of 1st gear.
 

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