Review 2021 Mid Season Draft Discussion

[Lore]

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The draft itself starts at 7pm (AEST)

The draft order for the mid-season rookie draft is the reverse ladder order after Round 11, with the number of picks dependent on the number of open list spots. (Spots opened up as LTIs/retirees are put on the inactive list.)

 

[briztoon]

I thought the NGA/academy thing was addressed in an article early this month:

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So even if Raak is still in the Western Bulldogs NGA academy, he can still nominate and be taken in the MSD.

Cheers, I missed that article.

 

[Yoda_]

Unless he is seen as a 1st round pick in the ND.

I’m so behind the times but NGA kids inside the top 20 are open slather but F/S are still going to no
Instead club?

Note. Obviously talking about Daicos still finding his way to Collingwood via an early bid


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[Wild Bill]

I’m so behind the times but NGA kids inside the top 20 are open slather but F/S are still going to no
Instead club?

Note. Obviously talking about Daicos still finding his way to Collingwood via an early bid


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That’s how I think it works as well

 

[briztoon]

Northern academy kids still get to their club, it’s just the NGA’s that are being phased out.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Are there any mid-sized forward types running around? Thinking a depth option for Fritsch getting hurt.

Signorello (Port Melbourne) 6 goals in 2 games
Lambert (Frankston) 7 goals in 2 games
Grace (Central Districts) 11 goals in 4 games
Manual (Claremont) 10 goals in 3 games



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Billy Gowers (Southport) 11 goals in 2 games
Hosie (Glenelg) 12 goals in 4 games

 

[Toadvine]

Anyone rate Bailey Lambert's chances? I haven't seen any of him this year because I've moved inter-state. Apparently he's started the VFL season red hot for Frankston.

Was eligible under F/S with Richmond in his original draft year so I'm not sure how that effects his situation.

Can you nominate as a F/S as a mature age player? Obviously if a club is going to give him a chance in the mid-season draft he'd take that over waiting for the ND and nominating us.

 

[Yoda_]

Anyone rate Bailey Lambert's chances? I haven't seen any of him this year because I've moved inter-state. Apparently he's started the VFL season red hot for Frankston.

Was eligible under F/S with Richmond in his original draft year so I'm not sure how that effects his situation.

Can you nominate as a F/S as a mature age player? Obviously if a club is going to give him a chance in the mid-season draft he'd take that over waiting for the ND and nominating us.

I’m pretty sure one of the Watermans ended up at West Coast as a mature aged F/S few years ago. Jake perhaps was maybe 22/23 when drafted.


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[RedmanWasHere]

I’m pretty sure one of the Watermans ended up at West Coast as a mature aged F/S few years ago. Jake perhaps was maybe 22/23 when drafted.


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Jake was of normal draft age when drafted.

You must be thinking of Jacob Brennan. (Son of Michael Brennan.)

 

[eth-dog]

I’m pretty sure one of the Watermans ended up at West Coast as a mature aged F/S few years ago. Jake perhaps was maybe 22/23 when drafted.


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Jake is currently 22. You're thinking of Jacob Brennan.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Further, in 2010, the year Jacob Brennan was picked, he was 20 years old and, therefore, 21 years at the completion of his first season with the Eagles.

 

[eth-dog]

Further, in 2010, the year Jacob Brennan was picked, he was 20 years old and, therefore, 21 years at the completion of his first season with the Eagles.

In fairness, he didn't play his first game until he was 22.

 

[Harry O]

Interesting that Caleb Poulter has in the space of 2 days on here gone from a spruiked MSD chance to an AFL debut on Saturday

 

[eth-dog]

Interesting that Caleb Poulter has in the space of 2 days on here gone from a spruiked MSD chance to an AFL debut on Saturday

 

[RedmanWasHere]

In fairness, he didn't play his first game until he was 22.

That could explain the 22 year old mix up.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Anyone rate Bailey Lambert's chances? I haven't seen any of him this year because I've moved inter-state. Apparently he's started the VFL season red hot for Frankston.

Was eligible under F/S with Richmond in his original draft year so I'm not sure how that effects his situation.

Can you nominate as a F/S as a mature age player? Obviously if a club is going to give him a chance in the mid-season draft he'd take that over waiting for the ND and nominating us.

So long as he hasn't been on an AFL list before in any capacity he's still F/S eligible.

 

[Jen2310]

MID-SEASON DRAFT SUPERRANKINGS

Players who nominated for last year’s draft who have had big starts to the year.

VFL

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Matthew Hanson (Werribee), MID, 2 games, 142 points

2. Nathan Freeman (Frankston), MID, 2 games, 128 points

3. Brayden Crossley (Southport), RUCK, 2 games, 124 points

4. William Fordham (Frankston), MID, 2 games, 120 points

5. Jackson McLachlan (Geelong), FWD, 1 game, 119 points




SANFL Seniors

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Jack Hayes (Woodville-West Torrens), FWD, 4 games, 148 points

2. Tom Lewis (Sturt), MID, 4 games, 116 points

3. James Tsitas (Woodville-West Torrens), MID, 4 games, 106 points

4. Hayden Sampson (South Adelaide), MID, 4 games, 94 points

5. Mitchell Duval (West Adelaide), DEF, 4 games, 93 points




WAFL Seniors

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Jye Bolton (Claremont), MID, 3 games, 133 points

2. Samuel Fisher (Swan Districts), MID, 3 games, 130 points

3. Luke Strnadica (East Fremantle), RUCK, 3 games, 129 points

4. Bailey Rogers (Claremont), MID, 3 games, 124 points

5. Frank Anderson (Swan Districts), MID, 3 games, 117 points




NAB League

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Cody Raak (Western Jets), DEF, 3 games, 163 points

2. Joel Trudgeon (Northern Knights), MID, 3 games, 139 points

3. Patrick Parnell (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 3 games, 132 points

4. Oliver Davis (Tasmanian devils), MID, 2 games, 129 points

5. Ewan Macpherson (Northern Knights), MID, 3 games, 123 points

WAFL Colts

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Jack Avery (Perth), DEF, 2 games, 181 points

2. Brodie Kitchingman (Peel Thunder), MID, 2 games, 126 points

3. Kobe Farmer (Peel Thunder), FWD, 1 game, 124 points


4. Jed Kemp (Subiaco), MID, 3 games, 120 points

5. Edward Curley (East Fremantle), FWD, 1 game, 113 points

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[Davo-27]

MID-SEASON DRAFT SUPERRANKINGS

Players who nominated for last year’s draft who have had big starts to the year.

VFL

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Matthew Hanson (Werribee), MID, 2 games, 142 points

2. Nathan Freeman (Frankston), MID, 2 games, 128 points

3. Brayden Crossley (Southport), RUCK, 2 games, 124 points

4. William Fordham (Frankston), MID, 2 games, 120 points

5. Jackson McLachlan (Geelong), FWD, 1 game, 119 points




SANFL Seniors

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Jack Hayes (Woodville-West Torrens), FWD, 4 games, 148 points

2. Tom Lewis (Sturt), MID, 4 games, 116 points

3. James Tsitas (Woodville-West Torrens), MID, 4 games, 106 points

4. Hayden Sampson (South Adelaide), MID, 4 games, 94 points

5. Mitchell Duval (West Adelaide), DEF, 4 games, 93 points




WAFL Seniors

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Jye Bolton (Claremont), MID, 3 games, 133 points

2. Samuel Fisher (Swan Districts), MID, 3 games, 130 points

3. Luke Strnadica (East Fremantle), RUCK, 3 games, 129 points

4. Bailey Rogers (Claremont), MID, 3 games, 124 points

5. Frank Anderson (Swan Districts), MID, 3 games, 117 points




NAB League

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Cody Raak (Western Jets), DEF, 3 games, 163 points

2. Joel Trudgeon (Northern Knights), MID, 3 games, 139 points

3. Patrick Parnell (Murray Bushrangers), DEF, 3 games, 132 points

4. Oliver Davis (Tasmanian devils), MID, 2 games, 129 points

5. Ewan Macpherson (Northern Knights), MID, 3 games, 123 points

WAFL Colts

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Jack Avery (Perth), DEF, 2 games, 181 points

2. Brodie Kitchingman (Peel Thunder), MID, 2 games, 126 points

3. Kobe Farmer (Peel Thunder), FWD, 1 game, 124 points


4. Jed Kemp (Subiaco), MID, 3 games, 120 points

5. Edward Curley (East Fremantle), FWD, 1 game, 113 points

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im not the biggest fan of super coach point systems, but i do find it interesting to see these results.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

There is a real case that Jack Hayes is the best non-AFL footballer right now. I don't know if he would suit any clubs but I would love to see him get a shot.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

When will the MSD noms come through?

 

[TJG1996]

WAFL Colts

Ranking, Player, Club, CD Position, 2021 Games, 2021 Ave. KFC SuperCoach Points

1. Jack Avery (Perth), DEF, 2 games, 181 points

2. Brodie Kitchingman (Peel Thunder), MID, 2 games, 126 points

3. Kobe Farmer (Peel Thunder), FWD, 1 game, 124 points

4. Jed Kemp (Subiaco), MID, 3 games, 120 points

5. Edward Curley (East Fremantle), FWD, 1 game, 113 points

This is just ridiculous and lazy journalism to just look at numbers without context and throw up some names. Avery is playing the Jack Ziebell role for a team with no hope of getting close to anyone this season. Kitchingman (who's name is Bodie, not Brodie) was playing league pre-season games but has dropped back to colts with Freo players back and is a real outside type too small to make an impact. Farmer (who's at Swan Districts, not Peel this year) played one game against the worst team in the comp. Kemp is playing about as well as he did last year, and Curley is still as inconsistent as ever (also just the one game).

I also don't understand the fascination with overagers dominating junior competitions as these superstars, Luke Foley did it for a full season and West Coast had to turn him into a defender because he couldn't play midfield when he wasn't physically stronger than everyone else on the field. Of the 5 19yo mid-season draftees from 2019 (Dunkley, O'Reilly, Hirst, Mayo, Riordan), 0 are still on a list with 5 games played all up (all from Kyle Dunkley). Meanwhile the older mature age players in Pickett, Noble, Snelling, and Gardner (somehow) who were all playing and dominating league footy in their state leagues are all best 22 or close to it in their respective teams.

It's nice that there is some coverage of the WAFL colts from a Victorian source, but if this gonna be it I'd rather just have none again.

 

[giantroo]

Ex-Pie on Suns' radar for mid-season draft, the bunker is back

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Some interesting detail in that article.

Players can now nominate for 6 or 18 month contracts, and if they've been listed before can nominate a salary above base.

Mitigates a bit of the risk from the players' end.

 

[Sphynx]

Some interesting detail in that article.

Players can now nominate for 6 or 18 month contracts, and if they've been listed before can nominate a salary above base.

Mitigates a bit of the risk from the players' end.

Yeah, is a good thing imo.

I'd be surprised if Edwards doesn't nominate. Guaranteed to stay in Melbourne via the MSD and management will no doubt want a pretty quick contract extension on the table.

 

[Sphynx]

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Some impressive footage of Edwards in the above

 

[bird_man]

Edwards weighing up whether he enters the MSD draft or waits until the national draft.

Surely North just offer to extend his contract by 2 years to get him in?