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Maybe Tomorrow

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Yeah I don't think he's a horrible pick. Just think people need to lower their expectations.
Just because he's going to be an SC pig for the majority of his career doesn't mean you need to be on for his 6th career game.
Why can't you just let us have our fun, man.



Stick to bagging mid-pricers :moustache:
 

Seymour Skinner

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This is a different argument now.

Can you be successful without Rowell? Sure.

Are you dumb if you don't pay 495k for him? I think so.

I'm pretty sure he's the SC Messiah.
My argument was still that I think people have put way to high expectations on the kid.

The last part was just to point out how the "see how that goes" part was kinda dumb.

High possibility that he is the Messiah, might start picking him after he's chalked up 50 games or so.
 

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WaynesWorld19

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My argument was still that I think people have put way to high expectations on the kid.

The last part was just to point out how the "see how that goes" part was kinda dumb.

High possibility that he is the Messiah, might start picking him after he's chalked up 50 games or so.
So Seymour is Rowell in your final side ?

Understand your points, and quite valid ....the counter argument is he has 53% ownership (approx), so if he fails alot of Coaches will fail ....but if he is a clone of Piggy, you may lose out big time

Isn't this a classic negating pick ?
 

Maybe Tomorrow

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So Seymour is Rowell in your final side ?

Understand your points, and quite valid ....the counter argument is he has 53% ownership (approx), so if he fails alot of Coaches will fail ....but if he is a clone of Piggy, you may lose out big time

Isn't this a classic negating pick ?
Clone? Clone?

fu**s sake mate, he's gonna make Clayton Oliver look like Chayce Jones :moustache: 120+ average incoming

Agree with the rest of the post though
 

Ingy

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My argument was still that I think people have put way to high expectations on the kid.

The last part was just to point out how the "see how that goes" part was kinda dumb.

High possibility that he is the Messiah, might start picking him after he's chalked up 50 games or so.
Olipig cracked 150SC for the first time in his 32nd game. He didn't score a ton in his first season.

Rowell scored 171 in his second game.

I realistically think he goes 125+ this year and I strongly doubt you will be waiting another 44 games before you own him
 

Seymour Skinner

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So Seymour is Rowell in your final side ?

Understand your points, and quite valid ....the counter argument is he has 53% ownership (approx), so if he fails alot of Coaches will fail ....but if he is a clone of Piggy, you may lose out big time

Isn't this a classic negating pick ?
He was when it opened, hasn't been on my side for about a month now.
I reckon he goes at about 95-105ppg.
If he does manage to surpass Oliver's second season what price would he rocket too? 600k?
If he does I cop the 100-150k price rise and make him a trade in target.
He probably would of put 10ppg on any alternative that I started.
150k and 70 points over the first 5-7 weeks doesn't seem like too much of a deficit.
I'd rather bet against him, 2nd year blues, being the most targeted, studied 20YO in the sports history, all that jazz.
 

WaynesWorld19

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He was when it opened, hasn't been on my side for about a month now.
I reckon he goes at about 95-105ppg.
If he does manage to surpass Oliver's second season what price would he rocket too? 600k?
If he does I cop the 100-150k price rise and make him a trade in target.
He probably would of put 10ppg on any alternative that I started.
150k and 70 points over the first 5-7 weeks doesn't seem like too much of a deficit.
I'd rather bet against him, 2nd year blues, being the most targeted, studied 20YO in the sports history, all that jazz.
 

Schulzenfest

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You guys realise that in their preparation for facing Gold Coast this year, every club will going over game footage of Matt Rowell and figuring out how to stop him right?

He had the element of surprise last year, he won't this year. He'll get studied. He'll get tagged. He'll get blocked. He's still talented enough that he'll be good and probably outperform his starting price, but he's not averaging ****ing 120+ ppg.
 

Seymour Skinner

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Olipig cracked 150SC for the first time in his 32nd game. He didn't score a ton in his first season.

Rowell scored 171 in his second game.

I realistically think he goes 125+ this year and I strongly doubt you will be waiting another 44 games before you own him

How many players have managed a 125 average ever?
I just can't see it happening.
Good luck to ya, we can cheer him on together in the gameday threads in 2023.


I don't pick "keepers" who have played less than 50 AFL games, they need to be 50+ alreasy or are going to pass the 50 game mark during that season.

I've only broken that rule twice, last year with Ridley, a defender, and once when Bont was forward eligible. Don't think I'd ever break it for a pure mid. I'm going to stick to that, it has worked out very well for me so far.
 

Santoz

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You guys realise that in their preparation for facing Gold Coast this year, every club will going over game footage of Matt Rowell and figuring out how to stop him right?

He had the element of surprise last year, he won't this year. He'll get studied. He'll get tagged. He'll get blocked. He's still talented enough that he'll be good and probably outperform his starting price, but he's not averaging ****ing 120+ ppg.
What an ingenious idea!

What the fu** were all those TAC Cup teams doing for two years?
 

RobR

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So Seymour is Rowell in your final side ?

Understand your points, and quite valid ....the counter argument is he has 53% ownership (approx), so if he fails alot of Coaches will fail ....but if he is a clone of Piggy, you may lose out big time

Isn't this a classic negating pick ?
Good point, i haven't looked at it that way. I got him in at Mid 5 at the moment, but i'm also watching Tom Green.
 

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Ingy

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How many players have managed a 125 average ever?
I just can't see it happening.
Good luck to ya, we can cheer him on together in the gameday threads in 2023.


I don't pick "keepers" who have played less than 50 AFL games, they need to be 50+ alreasy or are going to pass the 50 game mark during that season.

I've only broken that rule twice, last year with Ridley, a defender, and once when Bont was forward eligible. Don't think I'd ever break it for a pure mid. I'm going to stick to that, it has worked out very well for me so far.
I understand and respect all of your points, and your previous successes.

I wouldn't ordinarily entertain the idea of a second year player at all, much less a near 500k one.

When folks bought Rozee after his first two games last year I thought, "that will end badly" and so it came to pass.

But Rowell is a different animal.

Only injury will stop him racking up tons on the weekly IMO. Taggers won't do it. Most teams hardly even tag anyway, but apparently they are all going to start tagging against the Suns every week. Yeah righto.

As you say, good luck with it. By 2023, LTIs notwithstanding, he'll be boring because he'll be every single SC player's captain every single week.

In the meantime, all hail our Ranga Lord
 

WaynesWorld19

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How many players have managed a 125 average ever?
I just can't see it happening.
Good luck to ya, we can cheer him on together in the gameday threads in 2023.


I don't pick "keepers" who have played less than 50 AFL games, they need to be 50+ alreasy or are going to pass the 50 game mark during that season.

I've only broken that rule twice, last year with Ridley, a defender, and once when Bont was forward eligible. Don't think I'd ever break it for a pure mid. I'm going to stick to that, it has worked out very well for me so far.
Monkey gorilla (1).gif
 

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What an ingenious idea!

What the fu** were all those TAC Cup teams doing for two years?
Tagging is banned in the TAC Cup.


If you're gonna act like a sarcastic smart arse, at least try to be right first :)
 

crippler9

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You guys realise that in their preparation for facing Gold Coast this year, every club will going over game footage of Matt Rowell and figuring out how to stop him right?

He had the element of surprise last year, he won't this year. He'll get studied. He'll get tagged. He'll get blocked. He's still talented enough that he'll be good and probably outperform his starting price, but he's not averaging ****ing 120+ ppg.
Also keep in mind GC fc are not a 1 man team it’s like saying rest of the team is garbage. I also had doubts on Rowell but his in too many teams so I’d go down the safer path...
 

Hawkboy62

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Currently have Taranto/Cunnington as M4/M5 but have 72k bank. Torn between upgrading either to Rowell or waiting to see for 2 rounds.

Bullish about Cunners for his fast starts to seasons and Taranto is entering his fifth season, fully fit, having already averaged 102 in 2019 over 23 games.
Also may need cash to grab Pedlar if he is named.

Think I will see how Rowell goes for 2 rounds and upgrade if I still have the cash.
 

Raveneyes

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Is Rowell good enough to be in your team by years end, he's a no-brainer at his price now.
But if you think there's a good chance he will average less than 105 in the games after his bye, then you're probably right to pass on him.

Personally I doubt he will be under $500k this year once his price rises. He's only one of four players who have never left my team.
 

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