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OldBlueFan

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Yep.

When many of us pointed out that the AFL wasn't applying its own rules in the Williams case, there were plenty on here who told us that "the playing field has changed, the head is now sacrosanct", "it's not result, it's the action and the potential to do damage", etc etc ...

And yet none of these things applied in the Astbury case.

The MRO process is, always has been, and probably always will be, a f**king circus.
 

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What happened to the Essendon player? It looked like he hardly even flinched. Impact can't really be gauged off an injury to the transgressor. He could have injured it prior or threw a poor punch.
In the words of the great Jeff Gleeson QC (on behalf of AFL): You've all seen enough of that type of bump resulting in a concussion to conclude comfortably that it's the type of bump where it's a roll of a dice (and therefore has the potential to cause injury).

AFL House can't seriously argue that a player (Williams) should have an incident graded medium impact because it could have caused an injury, and then disregard a blatant punch to the head, off the ball, because it didn't cause an injury.
 

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What happened to the Essendon player? It looked like he hardly even flinched. Impact can't really be gauged off an injury to the transgressor. He could have injured it prior or threw a poor punch.
Who cares about the injury? He punched him in the head. Minimum 4 weeks IMO.
It's a punch. It's deliberate. It's high. This is the type of s##t they need launch the book out of a catapult for.
 

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Daniels 1 week? Seriously....
Harbrow? Cited?
Nothing in the Harbrow one IMO.
Both going for the ball. Harbrow stayed on the ground, kept the shoulder low and elbow tucked in. Was just a bit more aware of the contact that was coming. Looked vicious and glad Gibbo seems ok, but literally just two players going hard for the ball.
 

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Nothing in the Harbrow one IMO.
Both going for the ball. Harbrow stayed on the ground, kept the shoulder low and elbow tucked in. Was just a bit more aware of the contact that was coming. Looked vicious and glad Gibbo seems ok, but literally just two players going hard for the ball.
Made contact with head and I'm not fooled by experienced payers knowing how to make dangerous contact 'look' okish. Daniel's tackle would have copped automatic 4week suspension ( or more) in rugby codes.
 

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Nothing in the Harbrow one IMO.
Both going for the ball. Harbrow stayed on the ground, kept the shoulder low and elbow tucked in. Was just a bit more aware of the contact that was coming. Looked vicious and glad Gibbo seems ok, but literally just two players going hard for the ball.
Yep, nothing in the Harbrow one, both went the ball, both missed the ball and both collided. You wouldnt want gibbons out if the results were reversed
 

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In the words of the great Jeff Gleeson QC (on behalf of AFL): You've all seen enough of that type of bump resulting in a concussion to conclude comfortably that it's the type of bump where it's a roll of a dice (and therefore has the potential to cause injury).

AFL House can't seriously argue that a player (Williams) should have an incident graded medium impact because it could have caused an injury, and then disregard a blatant punch to the head, off the ball, because it didn't cause an injury.
Watch em do just that.
 

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Nothing in the Harbrow one IMO.
Both going for the ball. Harbrow stayed on the ground, kept the shoulder low and elbow tucked in. Was just a bit more aware of the contact that was coming. Looked vicious and glad Gibbo seems ok, but literally just two players going hard for the ball.
Missed the ball? Harbrow went past the ball.
 

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Missed the ball? Harbrow went past the ball.
It took an awkward bounce. You can clearly see him with eyes on the ball and reaching for it.
I've just had another look and he doesn't really run past it. They both collide pretty much at the spot where the ball lands.
 
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Who cares about the injury? He punched him in the head. Minimum 4 weeks IMO.
It's a punch. It's deliberate. It's high. This is the type of s##t they need launch the book out of a catapult for.
Impact makes up one of the components for deciding the penalty. All I am saying is that I don't think you can evaluate impact based on the injury to the hand of the transgressor.
 

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Impact makes up one of the components for deciding the penalty. All I am saying is that I don't think you can evaluate impact based on the injury to the hand of the transgressor.
Well of course, but a punch to the head is a punch to the head. I don't think injury to the receiver or transgressor needs to be factored in this instance. You wanna punch someone, take up boxing.
 

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