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You just hope Teague and others from the club come out and say they wouldn't want plowman to do anything different then or in the future.
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He hit him with his shoulder technically a bump.
AFL is trying to eradicate as much as humanly possible head high contact from the game. Which is challenging for a high speed 360 deg game like ours. The duty of care will fall heavily on players looking after one another.
In my view this means the game will change to protect the long term health of the players. I’m not of the view that the players have to sacrifice themselves for my entertainment. Call it a softer version of the game whatever I don’t care. Techniques will adapt as will players.
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Richard Flanagan, John Birmingham and the bloke that writes the Jack Irish books.
he knows his footy.
He didn’t actually go for the ball, he just ran into his opponent blindly. It was foolish.
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Why is the Pickett deliberation taking so long??
I would say he ran inline where the ball was coming. Then when he realised he was going to make contact braced himself as anyone would.
Not his fault Omera got in the line of the ball too.
Football accident. Sometimes they happen in a game where players can move 360 degrees at high speeds.
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not the point but we can cover plowman, thank * it somehow wasn't weits or heaven forbid vanilla............
This will be one of those "Carlton rules", never to be enforced again
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If we appeal again the tribunal might try and put Plowman up for attempted murder! If he pulled out of the contest they would have called him a coward and be dragged by the coach. And with that it is officially not a contact sport anymore. Absolute disgrace.
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Coz arriving late and round arming a bloke’s head after he’s disposed of the ball is obviously a legitimate football action.
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Think about that... the tribunal head said that the contest could not be considered a marking contest to the jury. How ridiculous! We better appeal
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Plowman didn’t even feign trying to mark the ball.
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Silly appeal system.
This stuff works in court, because a court knows that the decision they make can then shape the outcomes of future hearings.
In AFL land, precedent doesn't exist, isn't allowed to be mentioned, and the panel are forced to make decisions on technical definitions that are made up but never actually outlined within the AFL rules. And then to top it off, they know that regardless of the decision they make, it has no bearing on any future appeals.
How can a panel be asked to determine whether it was a "bump" when the AFL rules don't define what a bump is? And how can they be told that they're not allowed to consider it a "marking contest" by the tribunal chair, when that is the only alternative to it being a bump?
No wonder it took 40+mins to reach a decision. I reckon the panel all agreed it was a marking contest, but their hands had been tied and they were looking for an out that had been taken away from them.
This stuff works in court, because a court knows that the decision they make can then shape the outcomes of future hearings.
In AFL land, precedent doesn't exist, isn't allowed to be mentioned, and the panel are forced to make decisions on technical definitions that are made up but never actually outlined within the AFL rules. And then to top it off, they know that regardless of the decision they make, it has no bearing on any future appeals.
How can a panel be asked to determine whether it was a "bump" when the AFL rules don't define what a bump is? And how can they be told that they're not allowed to consider it a "marking contest" by the tribunal chair, when that is the only alternative to it being a bump?
No wonder it took 40+mins to reach a decision. I reckon the panel all agreed it was a marking contest, but their hands had been tied and they were looking for an out that had been taken away from them.
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If that is the standard, hold onto your money until the games are done for the year, every player is now in the gun to be suspended for any collision near the ball.
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You can see Plowman prepared to spoil, and actually spoiling. He's not bracing to bump, he's expecting to spoil while keeping a slim chance of a chest mark alive.
Seems like a straight forward appeal.
Seems like a straight forward appeal.
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You don't need both players trying to mark the ball to make it a marking contest - defenders are within their rights to attempt to spoil.
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wonder what kind of contest it was?
A running contest?
Perhaps a you thought you were twenty metres clear and it’s only Carlton, as if anyone’s gonna come at ya contest?
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This!
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Pickett ban stays at 1, I’m absolutely staggered by that... thought he’d get off for sure (even though he shouldn’t have)
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