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Was my #3 behind Williams and Harris
Im far lower on Sermon than most, had Carter clearly my #4 then a drop off to the rest.
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Was my #3 behind Williams and Harris
Im far lower on Sermon than most, had Carter clearly my #4 then a drop off to the rest.
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I love Hawkins but I couldn't possibly put him top 3. Think hes far better than an undrafted back however like he was.
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Panthers are quietly keeping an eye on Deshaun Watson
Posted by Mike Florio on August 4, 2021, 2:38 AM EDT
The Texans want to trade quarterback Deshaun Watson. For now, however, they haven’t gotten an offer that they’re willing to accept.
The number of teams interested in Watson remains unclear. The Eagles definitely are. The Dolphins aren’t believed to be. The Broncos seem to be willing to ride with Drew Lock and Teddy Bridgewater for 2021, content to explore their options for 2022 when 2022 comes.
Per a league source, the Panthers quietly are keeping an eye on Watson. Yes, they traded for Sam Darnold and picked up his 2022 option. Owner David Tepper nevertheless is committed to finding a long-term franchise quarterback. Watson has the skill to become that guy, and Tepper — who made his money buying low and selling high — could be inclined to make a move if Watson’s contract can be secured at a reasonable amount.
The 22 civil lawsuits and 10 criminal complaints (two of which were filed by women who haven’t yet sued Watson) continue to provide a major potential impediment to his short- and long-term prospects. More than anything else, the expected presentation of evidence to a grand jury is giving teams pause.
For the Texans, the question becomes whether they’ll be willing to simply do the best deal they can and be done with it. Although G.M. Nick Caserio is, as one source recently explained it, concerned about making a trade that will look in hindsight like he’d been fleeced, there aren’t many clear alternatives to removing Watson, who’s currently the fourth-stringer on the depth chart, and his $45 million in salary over the next two years. Someone higher in the Houston organization could insist on unloading Watson’s contract for whatever Caserio can get.
By all appearances, the Texans are ready to move on from Watson. That attitude necessarily makes it much harder to get a huge return, especially with the pending legal problems.
Here’s another team that likely won’t get involved but given its coach’s current exasperation with his starting quarterback should at least make a phone call: the Vikings. Kirk Cousins plus conditional picks in 2022 and 2023 based on Watson’s availability over the next two seasons could make sense for both teams. It would give Minnesota a path out of a maze in which they’re otherwise stuck, and it would solve Houston’s QB4 problem, too.
This possibility raises plenty of obvious and important questions for both teams, given Houston’s apparent plan to proceed with Tyrod Taylor now and Davis Mills later and Minnesota’s intent to eventually turn things over to Kellen Mond. That said, it could be the best move for both teams given the longstanding friction between the Texans and Watson and the recent tension between Mike Zimmer and Cousins, based on his refusal to get vaccinated.
Posted by Mike Florio on August 4, 2021, 2:38 AM EDT
The Texans want to trade quarterback Deshaun Watson. For now, however, they haven’t gotten an offer that they’re willing to accept.
The number of teams interested in Watson remains unclear. The Eagles definitely are. The Dolphins aren’t believed to be. The Broncos seem to be willing to ride with Drew Lock and Teddy Bridgewater for 2021, content to explore their options for 2022 when 2022 comes.
Per a league source, the Panthers quietly are keeping an eye on Watson. Yes, they traded for Sam Darnold and picked up his 2022 option. Owner David Tepper nevertheless is committed to finding a long-term franchise quarterback. Watson has the skill to become that guy, and Tepper — who made his money buying low and selling high — could be inclined to make a move if Watson’s contract can be secured at a reasonable amount.
The 22 civil lawsuits and 10 criminal complaints (two of which were filed by women who haven’t yet sued Watson) continue to provide a major potential impediment to his short- and long-term prospects. More than anything else, the expected presentation of evidence to a grand jury is giving teams pause.
For the Texans, the question becomes whether they’ll be willing to simply do the best deal they can and be done with it. Although G.M. Nick Caserio is, as one source recently explained it, concerned about making a trade that will look in hindsight like he’d been fleeced, there aren’t many clear alternatives to removing Watson, who’s currently the fourth-stringer on the depth chart, and his $45 million in salary over the next two years. Someone higher in the Houston organization could insist on unloading Watson’s contract for whatever Caserio can get.
By all appearances, the Texans are ready to move on from Watson. That attitude necessarily makes it much harder to get a huge return, especially with the pending legal problems.
Here’s another team that likely won’t get involved but given its coach’s current exasperation with his starting quarterback should at least make a phone call: the Vikings. Kirk Cousins plus conditional picks in 2022 and 2023 based on Watson’s availability over the next two seasons could make sense for both teams. It would give Minnesota a path out of a maze in which they’re otherwise stuck, and it would solve Houston’s QB4 problem, too.
This possibility raises plenty of obvious and important questions for both teams, given Houston’s apparent plan to proceed with Tyrod Taylor now and Davis Mills later and Minnesota’s intent to eventually turn things over to Kellen Mond. That said, it could be the best move for both teams given the longstanding friction between the Texans and Watson and the recent tension between Mike Zimmer and Cousins, based on his refusal to get vaccinated.
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* that. Phili or Pittsburgh is my guess as to who it will be eventually. Still cant see it happening any time soon.
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The question needs to be asked also, does Watson ever come back the same player he was from this, surely psychologically it affects you on some level, you lose your mojo or confidence, worry what people think of you, at least it would for me
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but I suppose if you don't have a conscience it wouldn't worry you, so there is always that
Interesting question but you have to think that once these guys are getting the sorts of money and fame that they are, their confidence is probably at another level that can't really be touched. I mean the confidence it must've taken to do what he had been doing.. lol.
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Does DK Metcalf have the skinniest legs youve ever seen?
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Are you sure? Was watching Training Camp live just a minute ago, and I swear theyre like toothpicks. Especially below the knees
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J.T. Ibe: I didn't mean to hit Keith Kirkwood like that
Tuesday's Panthers practice came to a halt during team drills because a hit by safety J.T.
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it was a post showing if you bet $100 on Bradys team every year of his career, you'd have made $10k profits by now, and a higher return investment than a lot of other things.
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From the same people who brought you "Clowney vs practice equipment" , James Winston ladies and gentlemen
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Giants G/C Joe Looney announced his retirement after nine seasons.
Looney, 30, just signed with the Giants over the weekend, but three days of practice and one in pads was enough for him to call it quits on his career. He was expected to be in the mix for a starting job along the Giants' interior line. Looney appeared in 104 career games, starting 42, playing three seasons with the 49ers, one with the Titans, and his final five with the Cowboys.
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Looney, 30, just signed with the Giants over the weekend, but three days of practice and one in pads was enough for him to call it quits on his career. He was expected to be in the mix for a starting job along the Giants' interior line. Looney appeared in 104 career games, starting 42, playing three seasons with the 49ers, one with the Titans, and his final five with the Cowboys.
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Bears signed LB Alec Ogletree, formerly of the Jets.
Ogletree, 30 next month, was the 30th overall pick by Jeff Fisher's Rams in 2013. A former every-down linebacker, Ogletree was cut by the Giants last summer and appeared in just two games last year with the Jets. He played for current Bears LBs coach Bill McGovern with the G-Men.
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Ogletree, 30 next month, was the 30th overall pick by Jeff Fisher's Rams in 2013. A former every-down linebacker, Ogletree was cut by the Giants last summer and appeared in just two games last year with the Jets. He played for current Bears LBs coach Bill McGovern with the G-Men.
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Apparently Cousins and Nate Stanley will be back from COVID protocols tomorrow.
It's not surprising that the Vikings are trying things that don't involve the QB throwing as lone QB Jake Browning threw an estimated 90 passes during the Vikings Saturday night practice including 26 of 37 during 11 on 11s.
Well known QBs Case Cookus and Danny Etling joined the team on Monday to reduce Browning's workload, but it would have been a whirlwind for Browning with Mond (COVID+), Cousins and Stanley (unvaccinated close contacts) away from practice.
Reports are that Mond (vaccinated) is not well and will be away from the team for an unknown period of time. It's increasingly likely that Browning will be QB2 for the start of the season. The Vikings could bring in a veteran backup but at least Browning has shown he is capable of being the backup.
2021 is going to be another COVID crazy year in the NFL.....
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