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For every one Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman there are ten Tim Couches.

Not saying Wilson will rise to the caliber of Manning and enduring a tough rookie season is not necessarily the end of the world but his chances of being a great QB are historically against him.

An Alex Smith type career could be his ceiling.

Jets should have rolled with a veteran for 2021 and protected the rookie or parlayed the 2nd pick into a kings ransom of supporting cast members to help their eventual franchise QB.
 

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6/16 was a better slice.

But i do like 7/16 for the importance of #1 seed and how also it dissuades teams from resting tons of players on a dead game or two in the final regular season games.
 

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Edwards-Helaire taunting call was the right application of a bad rule

Posted by Mike Florio on November 22, 2021, 10:03 AM EST

The response has become damn near Pavlovian.

It goes like this. An NFL player draws a foul for taunting, and then Twitter explodes with shouts of “NO FUN LEAGUE!”

Setting aside for now the question of why witnessing taunting makes football more “fun” for anyone, resisting the rule at this point is futile. The league has created it. The league has made enforcing it a point of emphasis. Multiple coaches have defended it, loudly. So when, for example, a player like Chiefs running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire points directly at an opposing player on his way to the end zone, yes, a flag will be thrown.

It’s simple at this point. You may hate the rule (I definitely hate the high “thou shalt not posture to the entire sideline” bar that was created to justify Tony Corrente’s Gran Torino moment against Cassius Marsh from two weeks ago), but it’s the rule. Like every other rule. No holding. No pass interference. No jumping across the line of scrimmage before the snap. And no taunting.

The real question is whether the rule will be applied consistently and fairly. The Week 10 games included a couple of incidents of taunting that weren’t flagged; per a league source, Bills right tackle Spencer Brown wasn’t fined for posturing aggressively toward the Jets sideline, and Patriots running back Rhamdondre Stevenson wasn’t fined for getting in the face of a Browns defender after a touchdown.

That’s the challenge moving forward. Flagging it whenever it happens. Punishing it consistently or not at all. At this point, it’s not unreasonable to expect it to not happen. The league has decided that, for whatever reason, it doesn’t want these behaviors.

Meanwhile, be glad that the league has yet to embrace the college rule that, if applied to Edwards-Helaire, would have taken his touchdown off the board because the taunting happened before he entered the end zone. As the powers-that-be hear more and more criticism about the current taunting rule, there’s a chance they’ll become sufficiently tone deaf to expand the rule to potentially erase the outcome of a given play.
 

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I like 7 playoff spots simply because means more teams will keep trying till the end of the season instead of giving up early.
Add that to the pros of it. Lot of pros actually. Who cares if one extra average team makes the playoffs? Theyll get bundled out 90/100 first week anyway.
 

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That's the problem, virtually any team can
Not a problem. Makes games later in the season more interesting

No it's not, someone completely undeserving with no hope of winning the title will make it.

It's a money grab , doesn't make the league better whatsoever.
6th seed teams have won before so why can't 7th seeds?
 

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This seasons standings too really suit a 7th as well. AFC is so squashed together. Top 7-4 team and the the thirteenth is like 5-5, Dolphins 4-7. Not much distance suggests an almost complete evenness from 1st to 13th. Even the NFC is similar this year.

Therell be years where the top 3 or 4 are miles ahead of the pack and the 7th a really poor under 500 team.
 

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Not a problem. Makes games later in the season more interesting


6th seed teams have won before so why can't 7th seeds?

tell me the % of times a sixth seed has won the title, then divide that by 10 and you probably have the chance of a seventh seed winning it (im sure there is some sort of exact formula you could use for calculating a sevenths seeds chances)
 

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I like 7 playoff spots simply because means more teams will keep trying till the end of the season instead of giving up early.

Teams dont tank in the NFL though so its irrelevant, players are playing for too much money every year. When coaches organisations try to they end up like Doug Peterson on unemployment
 

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No it's not, someone completely undeserving with no hope of winning the title will make it.

It's a money grab , doesn't make the league better whatsoever.
Just wait till the 7 seed gets a shock win against a beat up 2 seed and ends up with a pick in the mid 20's after a 7-10 season.
 

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I like 7 playoff spots simply because means more teams will keep trying till the end of the season instead of giving up early.
Ahh yes. rewarding mediocrity. one step away from participation trophies.

Its going to set teams back further because they will end up with worse draft picks or because they made playoffs will be more reluctant to fire bad coaches or GMs.
 

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6th seed teams have won before so why can't 7th seeds?
Pittsburgh was an 11 win team, Packers were a 10 win team. Not many 10+ win teams miss the playoffs
Packers were better than a 10 win team. got hurt by a heap or injuries early and then got hot late and only just made the playoffs.

Most of the teams who would of been a 7 seed were 8-8 or sometimes 9-7.
 

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Wait. Taysom Hill signed a new deal for 4 years worth between $40-95M.
Yet he isnt good enough to start over Semien.

This dude is going to the contract HoF.
 

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anyone else liking the Giants here with the points?
 

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$40 mil for the 'role he is currently playing', mkay & that would be what exactly?:think:
 

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Depends which Jones shows up.

But he has to play against the bucs "championship defense"

Barkley in should help Jones out a bit, dunno havent watched much Giants at all but not overly impressed by Tampa so far, talking myself into a small Giants wager methinks...
 

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