Training 2021 - Preseason Thread

[Obeanie1]

They won’t like the guy sitting on the bench not playing footy part.

This is a short term fix I think (not surprising considering they’ve announced it a day before the season starts like the Mickey Mouse league they are..).

How is an injury sub of any sort a short term fix?

Maybe they can swap at half time and a fit player comes off and they becomes the injury sub if not already needed?

In any scenario an injury sub is allowed they will be warming the pine for some of the match.

Plenty of soccer players sit on the pine

 

[Carbine Chaos]

So this season will define the next 5 years?

Like really?

Remember that season where we flopped, retired Priddis, Mitchell, Hill and others. Cleaned out some of the older, slower players. I recalled all the "experts" saying were entering rebuild territory.

You campaigners all know what happened next.

List management is a constantly moving story. You draft players 3 to 4 years before the established player retires. Rotham > Hurn, O'Neil > Shuey, Duggan > Redden, Oscar > JK, H Edwards > Gov.

And then you chase trades to improve areas of need. Kelly, Witherden, Langdon.

I can only apologise for having a gut feel about something. I'll try to be more astute in the future.

 

[Doashuey]

I can see Waterman doing some sub time. Very versatile and assuming our forwards remain injury free, he may struggle to get a regular gig. Has a lot to offer. Would keep him for home games and Ahchee for away games so both get WAFL minutes.

 

[Altum Volantes]

How is an injury sub of any sort a short term fix?

Maybe they can swap at half time and a fit player comes off and they becomes the injury sub if not already needed?

In any scenario an injury sub is allowed they will be warming the pine for some of the match.

Plenty of soccer players sit on the pine

Short term fix as in it will be exploited by desperate coaches looking to gain an edge and then will need to be changed.

 

[Obeanie1]

Short term fix as in it will be exploited by desperate coaches looking to gain an edge and then will need to be changed.

With a concussion sub lets look how the rule could be exploited.

A player fakes a concussion, is subbed off to get assessed, comes back a quarter or two later after cooling down / freshening up?

So you get two players playing say 80% of the game.

Well chances are if its a gun player swapped for a player picked # 23 that isn't a win, a team playing a lessor player than a gun player. If the players are similar in ability no foul, no harm done.

If a player is subbed off and fails a concussion test then they are out for 14 days. All good, system works.

A player with another non concussion injury (leg) is subbed off but claims concussion. Well if it was an ankle or shoulder it would be reasonably obvious where the injury was. If a club tries to be cute then the AFL only needs to refer to the doctors report and treatment to see it wasn't a concussion injury.

It is the injury sub that could be misused. Easy fix is you use the sub the player subbed off can't return. If the injury is that bad to be subbed off then they miss the next game.

 

[Keys]

Gotta be ****ing frustrating

 

[JADED]

Gotta be ******* frustrating

Yep, but not something that'll go away easy.

Dr Chick says lop it off!
Fingers, mullets, sideburns, groins, lop it all off.

 

[Coasters7]

Going to be hilarious to see the amount of second rucks that get subbed out at 3/4 time to some unknown injury and replaced by a runner only to be lining up the following week

 

[Chris_6678]

Going to be hilarious to see the amount of second rucks that get subbed out at 3/4 time to some unknown injury and replaced by a runner only to be lining up the following week

Vardy gets injured all the time so no one will notice.

 

[redwidow]

I saw this article on Twitter and I reckon the author really hits the nail on the head. https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-2021-season-preview-west-coast-eagles/

 

[SloppyJoe]

I feel for the poor club doctors who are going to have the coaches leaning on them to make questionable diagnoses and recommendations.

 

[bunkyboy]

Been thinking about Zac Landon’s game v Fremantle before he got concussed. On reflection, he was pretty good. Was crumbing at the foot of quite a few contents around the forward 50 line and quick to distribute an effective handball. Also remembered he opened the game with a very strong overhead mark on the lead inside 50. He does look like he has the right kind of intensity we need from a small forward. Accordingly I’m changing my best 22 to have him in ahead of Petch.

 

[THE A5]

Zac Langdons a one touch small foward. Don’t really have anyone other than Ryan and Rioli

 

[Altum Volantes]

Been thinking about Zac Landon’s game v Fremantle before he got concussed. On reflection, he was pretty good. Was crumbing at the foot of quite a few contents around the forward 50 line and quick to distribute an effective handball. Also remembered he opened the game with a very strong overhead mark on the lead inside 50. He does look like he has the right kind of intensity we need from a small forward. Accordingly I’m changing my best 22 to have him in ahead of Petch.

I think he’s ahead of Petch and probably more chance to put the squeeze on Jamie Cripps position if Jamaine Jones is also in the team.

Petch is probably the best chance if they decide to push Liam Ryan up the ground (likely, he looked amazing last week), and they need a small to stay close to goal.

 

[FKASC]

Zac Langdons a one touch small foward. Don’t really have anyone other than Ryan and Rioli

Petch too

Plays forward and only gets one touch

 

[Altum Volantes]

Poor old Petch is creeping towards Mitch Brown levels of supporter discontent isn’t he?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Petch was great in the preseason game.

Lock for Sunday.

 

[Obeanie1]

I guess if the ‘can’t play next week’ thing doesn’t work then ‘2 Premiership Points Deducted for improper use of injury substitute’ might?

I kinda the whole thing is unnecessary. The players more than likely won’t like it (like the shitty sub role we had a few years back), and the only ones that will like it are the coaches, who get an extra magnet to play with, and the commentary team who get to hoot and holler at the prospect of someone getting subbed out.

If a player is injured and a sub is available they are more likely to put their hand up and say 'I'm no good, get the sub going' rather than forcing themselves back on the ground to not let down their team and mates.

Pro's and cons each way....

 

[THE A5]

Petch too

Plays forward and only gets one touch

I guess Ah chee too

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

If a player is injured and a sub is available they are more likely to put their hand up and say 'I'm no good, get the sub going' rather than forcing themselves back on the ground to not let down their team and mates.

Pro's and cons each way....

Meanwhile Shuey is like "It's only both hamstrings, I've got a third right? PUT ME BACK OUT THERE!!!"

 

[THE A5]

Poor old Petch is creeping towards Mitch Brown levels of supporter discontent isn’t he?

I dunno i feel like browns discontent was based of his last year and that ef. For someone who was 3rd/4th in line defender he was ok

 

[DanWCE]

I dunno i feel like browns discontent was based of his last year and that ef. For someone who was 3rd/4th in line defender he was ok

What happened in the EF? Godfather32 any idea?

 

[squashface]

Petch too

Plays forward and only gets one touch

Might have to change my POTY vote to you because of this post.

Very good.

 

[THE A5]

What happened in the EF? Godfather32 any idea?

Sleep paralysis but its Mitch Brown lining up in a forward pocket

 

[Matera92]

This new rule definitely won't be abused by coaches in any way, shape or form.

I'm glad the AFL have put thorough and rigorous testing behind this rule.