Analysis 2021 Rule Changes - How will they affect our side?

[The Old Dark Navy's]

1. Interchange rotations reduced to 75
2. With kick ins, man on the mark has to stand 15 metres back from the end of the goal square
3. Man on the mark can not move off the mark more than 1 metre each side
4. For out of bounds on the full, man on the mark has to stand on the line where the ball went out, not stand inside the boundary to cut off any inboard passes
5. Man on the mark can not be changed. So the defender closest when a mark or free kick is awarded, has to stand the mark, not go back in defence while another player stands the mark

How will these affect our side?

Stamina is going to play a bigger part, and I'd like to think we have set up well in advance by recruiting gut running players. Gibbons, Cottrell, Walsh, Curnow can run all day.

2 and 3 won't affect anything unless they start dishing out 50m penalties for any breaches right off the bat.

4 will be interesting as we are going to work harder to apply pressure on these easier 45 degree passes.

5. This is a huge one. If Weitering trails a forward to a mark outside 50 or he is in the vicinity when a free kick is given, we could be down to one tall defender in the square so we are going to need a Plowman/Marchbank type to potentially take a tall forward for the contest, or we are going to need Pittonet/Casboult/De Koning to get back to help out quickly.

Do you see these rules being to our advantage, or can you see them having any affect on selection?

 

[Jimmae]

Yeah number 5 is going to reward defending smart on the counter attack.

May also reward shorter, quicker defenses.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Clearly trying to take the game back 25 years. Hooray at last!

 

[BigBreakfast]

The man on the mark gig could be a blessing or a curse.

Will work for us with our additional speed and disposal of Saad, Williams then the likes of Walsh et. al.

Might hurt us given we have already proven to be bad at stopping consecutive goals against. To further speed up the game in this context makes it even harder to stop those run of goals against.

Superficial opinion but looking forward to seeing how it goes tomorrow if the link ever arrives!

 

[CJMB]

I guess we'll get a bit of an idea in a couple of hours

 

[iAsbestos]

Saad is going to love this

 

[Brezsa]

There will be a coach that figures out a way to exploit the new rules, then every other team will play catch up over 4-6 weeks to do the same thing. Real question is who is that team and what is the way they will do it?

 

[Jabba73]

Umpires have not controlled sides who regularly creep over the mark for years, Tigers and Hawks particularly good at gaining 2-3 metres from actual mark. Nothing suggested will fix that problem, may make it worse as the new ruling is dependant on the umpire calling play on. If they let some defenders move early and hold others back, will cause multiple goals a game from 50 metre penalties.

Would rather they penalise the defender who stands over the ball and won’t give it back, or worse still physically block the attacking team getting to the ball after a free kick is paid. Some teams also get away with pointing to 4 opposition players in turn before they get to the right one to throw it back to, wasting several seconds in the process. Once again, some teams can get away with more than others.

If the new rules are consistently applied, might be okay. Adding more interpretations may simply add more confusion and skew results further.

 

[Gethelred]

It depends, as with all of the rules, on consistency of adjudication.

If Richmond - for example - were held up the way we were on the fast break with the advantage rule the way we were today, they wouldn't have won the last three flags. Their ball movement would be a good deal slower, and they would've been forced to play slow more often, which meant that the game would've been determined by their efficiency rather than speed or fitness.

If the umps allow players to stand and stop 5 metres corridor side, then that rule change will have negligable effect on the game from last season; they're still cutting off the corridor. The kick in distance means that the ball will in all probability get out to the wing on kickins, so kicking accurately becomes more important than ever. The reduced interchange cap will result in more congestion late in games, so potentially less ability for sides to win the ball free from stoppages late in terms, but it will also favour the fitter teams (of which I hope we're one). Execution of skills is harder when tired, so I hope that's an area we can stand out as well.

All in all, it'd much rather the ump remembered kicking in danger, insisted on proper disposal of the ball, and policed improper contact around the legs, over head height, and to the back. But that's just me.

 

[Jabba73]

Yep, Ed Curnow today was about 7 metres short of the mark, tried to move up towards it and was given a 50 metre penalty after one step because he was moving.

Stupid interpretations look like they will reign for some time yet.

 

[JustaBattler]

I think the standing the mark and not moving worked well for both teams today - a lot more 45 degree kicks into coridoor .

 

[ferrisb]

There will be a coach that figures out a way to exploit the new rules, then every other team will play catch up over 4-6 weeks to do the same thing. Real question is who is that team and what is the way they will do it?

Not sure which team it will be.

But if it's not hawthorn, then I'm sure Clarko will schedule a meeting with the umpires and the rules will be changed back the next week...

 

[Jabba73]

I think the standing the mark and not moving worked well for both teams today - a lot more 45 degree kicks into coridoor .

Need to watch consistency with calling play on. Some were starting 2-3 metres off the line, some could play on for a few steps before the defender is released and some had play on called if they turned their head sideways to check for options.

Three more chances for interpretation to have a big say in results at every free kick or mark paid.

 

[JustaBattler]

Need to watch consistency with calling play on. Some were starting 2-3 metres off the line, some could play on for a few steps before the defender is released and some had play on called if they turned their head sideways to check for options.

Three more chances for interpretation to have a big say in results at every free kick or mark paid.

Its always the case for every rule though - umpiring is a huge part of the AFL game I reckon the nature of the game makes umpiring much more difficult than other straight lines codes. So I judge a rule by weighng up what it is likely to add to the game versus the cost of inevitable umpiring inconsistency/interpretation...

for me - forcing plyers to stay put means the marking player has the opportunity to kick to a much wider part of the ground - got sick of all the mark cheating and arc creeping that was going on...and it all slowed the game down and also removed a lot of the benefit of a mark.

Second reason I like the mark rule changes is it stops coaches ability to choose who is on and who isnt on the mark . Therefore matchups become much more important in the game - will add interest...and remove some gaming of the rules where you would see tackling players swap and run to advantage in defence and attack ....

If this sodesnt work to open up and the game and remove coached delays and 'cheats' - the AFL will bring in zones to force space at ceertain times....

 

[ctacp]

Man on the mark rule. They’ll be on 1 foot stretching out like a netballer soon.

 

[BlueGum]

Man on the mark rule. They’ll be on 1 foot stretching out like a netballer soon.
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It's an art.

 

[ferrisb]

It's an art.

That is a stunning action shot!

 

[CJMB]

Its always the case for every rule though - umpiring is a huge part of the AFL game I reckon the nature of the game makes umpiring much more difficult than other straight lines codes. So I judge a rule by weighng up what it is likely to add to the game versus the cost of inevitable umpiring inconsistency/interpretation...

for me - forcing plyers to stay put means the marking player has the opportunity to kick to a much wider part of the ground - got sick of all the mark cheating and arc creeping that was going on...and it all slowed the game down and also removed a lot of the benefit of a mark.

Second reason I like the mark rule changes is it stops coaches ability to choose who is on and who isnt on the mark . Therefore matchups become much more important in the game - will add interest...and remove some gaming of the rules where you would see tackling players swap and run to advantage in defence and attack ....

If this sodesnt work to open up and the game and remove coached delays and 'cheats' - the AFL will bring in zones to force space at ceertain times....

Collingwood's strategy of trying to get Cox to man the mark when possible is dead in the water...

 

[thylacine60]

How new Blue exploited new ‘stand’ rule

“He would have gained an extra 30-40 metres.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[Jabba73]

How new Blue exploited new ‘stand’ rule

“He would have gained an extra 30-40 metres.”

www.sen.com.au

It is a s**t rule that comes down to when the umpire releases the defender manning the mark. Will make all the difference in who scores and when.

Plenty of examples of players starting or running off the mark and allowed to continue while the defender stands helplessly about 5 metres to the side ... to the opposite interpretation where play on is called as soon as the player with the ball turns laterally to look for options.

Going to cause chaos and umpires will be blamed again. Idiots in charge making stupid rules for stupid reasons again

 

[BluStreak]

For me, its play on and the marker can move or the it is kick over the mark, ball must go forward.
That would make it a bit more static and most likely to result in a man on man defense rather than zoning.


"tell him he is dreaming"

 

[F_therest]

The stand still on the mark is huge and could have a positive impact for us given how we like to play.

Teague keeps talking about wanting us to be an aggressive, entertaining side and getting the ball in to our forwards quickly...this rule certainly helps us do that.

In defence we have Saad who will be able to get quick handball receives and run past the man on the mark. Conversely with the opposition also getting inside their F50 quickly, Jones & Weitering are two of the best 1v1 players in the league. We don't zone defence as much as other teams do.

Note: Teams will adapt, but I saw footage of Daniher kicking a goal from outside 50m. The guy on the mark was just outside 50m, but Daniher was allowed to run his natural arc to the left and ended up virtually kicking it from the same distance out, but to the left of the defender who couldnt move to block the kick. That extra few metres he gained is why he kicked the goal.

 

[thylacine60]

Without having to kick over him, F the rest?

 

[JustaBattler]

I don't mind marking players getting an advantage over short arses who can't stop them marking the ball- might see sides full of jumping rabbit mids (Collingwood/Richmond/Doggies) who bouncy bounce around the park engaging in boring mauls and praying for arbitrary free kicks based on interpretation rules stop and think about their lists and the game style they wish to employ - also we are (theoretically) well placed in the tall forward department - just a bit short on blokes who can kick from 60 ( or 50 or 40 and even money at 30)

The more I think about it- the more I like the standstill rule for defenders on a mark.

The three-point rule changed basketball for the better - and I think the 60-meter kick specialist can do the same for AFL.

#bringbackthebigbodiedtallblokeswhocantakecontestedmarksandslotgoals.

 

[Jabba73]

The stand still on the mark is huge and could have a positive impact for us given how we like to play.

Teague keeps talking about wanting us to be an aggressive, entertaining side and getting the ball in to our forwards quickly...this rule certainly helps us do that.

In defence we have Saad who will be able to get quick handball receives and run past the man on the mark. Conversely with the opposition also getting inside their F50 quickly, Jones & Weitering are two of the best 1v1 players in the league. We don't zone defence as much as other teams do.

Note: Teams will adapt, but I saw footage of Daniher kicking a goal from outside 50m. The guy on the mark was just outside 50m, but Daniher was allowed to run his natural arc to the left and ended up virtually kicking it from the same distance out, but to the left of the defender who couldnt move to block the kick. That extra few metres he gained is why he kicked the goal.

Interpretation ruins the game again.

No issue with Daniher using his natural arc, as long as the umpire calls play on as soon as he moves off the line.

Otherwise, every player in the game will develop a ‘natural arc’ so they don’t have to kick over the bloke on the mark. Can run out to either side and kick from level with the player on the mark and no one can move to intercept until the umpire calls play on.