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Have you had that many injuries though? I understand Marshall was a big loss at the start of the year and Gresham a couple of weeks ago hurt but who else outside of that? Is Hannebery that much of a big in?
Paton, Geary, Hannebury, Frawley, Ryder, Marshall, Gresham, Byrnes, Jones (early)......
 

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Have you had that many injuries though? I understand Marshall was a big loss at the start of the year and Gresham a couple of weeks ago hurt but who else outside of that? Is Hannebery that much of a big in?
Our captain for a start. Paton, our best lock down defender. Marshall, Ryder, Gresham, Jones, Byrnes, Hannebery, Webster, Frawley That’s just of the top of my head. Crouch also missed 2 with suspension. Is that enough?
 

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It would be a huge hill for us to climb to make the finals this year.
BTW. Kane Cornes is looking more like a bobble head every day!

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I think I like Corns less on the Air than I do on my feet ...both smelly and both unsavory....and he could be Andrew BOLTS son...thats enough to turn my stomach!:think: Regardless of if he's right !
 

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He was all nicey nicey when interviewing Lade the other week there.

I think he is a weasel.

He talks as much sh*te as Robbo but at least Robbo will tell someone how he feels to their face.
 

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Laughing and joking at training = 75 point loss to Essendon and season starts to go into free fall.

bickering and arguing at training = 100 point win over hawthorn and season starts to get back on track???

Joffaboy what do you think? ;)
Does he think? I just thought he talks!:D
 

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Have you had that many injuries though? I understand Marshall was a big loss at the start of the year and Gresham a couple of weeks ago hurt but who else outside of that? Is Hannebery that much of a big in?
All teams have injuries - I suppose it’s where they are that hurts eg

BOTH ruckman - Ryder and Marshall unavailable, leaving us with a VFL standard ruckman who had playEd very few or any games at all ( can’t remember exactly)
Huge loss to our structure when you look how important they were
last year.

THREE very important backmen in experienced captain Geary and Paton ( who you may not know too much about bc he’s not a name) but was very important to our backline last year. Also Webster.

TWO first choice mids in Gresham and Jones. (Not counting Hanners bc he rarely plays anyway. Not even counting Crouch bc he was unavailable early but didn’t play for us last season.)

Add a few players out of form for whatever reason and we have the perfect storm.

So to come up against teams like Port, Tigers, WC, GWS all top four last year, plus the Dees the way they are going at this stage with our injury list / Ryder out was tough.

Hate to make excuses, as we’ve been absolutely less than impressive, but the above must have played a part to a fairly large extent.
 
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I was very pleased to see that Nicky has visited the club this week, being that two of our indigenous players are slowly trudging back up that Long Hill of form at the moment and coming under considerable heat inside and outside the club.

Neither Ben nor Brad have probably experienced such crushing downs in footy before and form can be a lonely place, a place Nicky knows personally.

I was in the crowd the day in Nicky allowed some young (Carlton?) player to get under his skin, the match that signed his papers out of St Kilda to finish his career in ignominy at Footscray.

Obviously plenty of players get this treatment not just indigenous ones: I watched Scott Camporeale get turned into a reportable Maniac by some cheeky smartarse player one day, but anyway...

Nicky would deeply recognise the treatment Ben Long is currently on the end of, and I hope he particularly took the time to take him aside man to man and help him out with his issues because that young man is right at the crossroads already in his career and could very well quickly see his standing at the club diminish to become unplayable.

Of course both Ben and Brad are playing badly right now, and that's no one else's fault but a lot of players have had form issues, even the great Nicky Winmar. The important thing when working through it is knowing that you're not alone, so it was great to see Nicky there for the whole team to enforce this message.

Let's hope his visit has the desired effect.
 

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I was very pleased to see that Nicky has visited the club this week, being that two of our indigenous players are slowly trudging back up that Long Hill of form at the moment and coming under considerable heat inside and outside the club.

Neither Ben nor Brad have probably experienced such crushing downs in footy before and form can be a lonely place, a place Nicky knows personally.

I was in the crowd the day in Nicky allowed some young (Carlton?) player to get under his skin, the match that signed his papers out of St Kilda to finish his career in ignominy at Footscray.

Obviously plenty of players get this treatment not just indigenous ones: I watched Scott Camporeale get turned into a reportable Maniac by some cheeky smartarse player one day, but anyway...

Nicky would deeply recognise the treatment Ben Long is currently on the end of, and I hope he particularly took the time to take him aside man to man and help him out with his issues because that young man is right at the crossroads already in his career and could very well quickly see his standing at the club diminish to become unplayable.

Of course both Ben and Brad are playing badly right now, and that's no one else's fault but a lot of players have had form issues, even the great Nicky Winmar. The important thing when working through it is knowing that you're not alone, so it was great to see Nicky there for the whole team to enforce this message.

Let's hope his visit has the desired effect.
Thanks for posting Austinnn. Great to see and what a legend Nicky is!!
 

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I was very pleased to see that Nicky has visited the club this week, being that two of our indigenous players are slowly trudging back up that Long Hill of form at the moment and coming under considerable heat inside and outside the club.

Neither Ben nor Brad have probably experienced such crushing downs in footy before and form can be a lonely place, a place Nicky knows personally.

I was in the crowd the day in Nicky allowed some young (Carlton?) player to get under his skin, the match that signed his papers out of St Kilda to finish his career in ignominy at Footscray.

Obviously plenty of players get this treatment not just indigenous ones: I watched Scott Camporeale get turned into a reportable Maniac by some cheeky smartarse player one day, but anyway...

Nicky would deeply recognise the treatment Ben Long is currently on the end of, and I hope he particularly took the time to take him aside man to man and help him out with his issues because that young man is right at the crossroads already in his career and could very well quickly see his standing at the club diminish to become unplayable.

Of course both Ben and Brad are playing badly right now, and that's no one else's fault but a lot of players have had form issues, even the great Nicky Winmar. The important thing when working through it is knowing that you're not alone, so it was great to see Nicky there for the whole team to enforce this message.

Let's hope his visit has the desired effect.

 

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Really good interview with Nathan Freeman, who has started the VFL season for Frankston with two 40+ disposal performances.

Amazing attitude and wise beyond his years.

Mentioned that at the end of the 2018 season, he wasn't shocked to be delisted because we were clearing out our list and he needed off-season shoulder surgery which would have meant a delayed start to the preseason. I don't recall that ever being reported, but maybe I'm wrong.

If he keeps this form up I wouldn't be shocked if a team was tempted to take a punt at the midseason draft.

Also a Saints fan...
And a nice bloke too!
 

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Nicky would deeply recognise the treatment Ben Long is currently on the end of
This could be a naive question but: do you think Brad & Ben are experiencing extra heat or pressure about their performances because they are indigenous?

I imagine there is always going to be some level of latent racism for these guys, but are they being treated in a different manner to other poorly performing players at the moment?

Is Long being racially vilified? Man I would hope not.
 

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This could be a naive question but: do you think Brad & Ben are experiencing extra heat or pressure about their performances because they are indigenous?

I imagine there is always going to be some level of latent racism for these guys, but are they being treated in a different manner to other poorly performing players at the moment?

Is Long being racially vilified? Man I would hope not.
Wouldn't have thought so. Can't imagine players going down that path with the education and likely ramifications.
Haven't read or seen anything in the media or BF with racial undertones.
But when a side touted as a top 4 chance is playing without effort, everyone cops it, including (the trainee receptionist) 😄. Especially if you are the high priced recruit not delivering.
 

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Really good interview with Nathan Freeman, who has started the VFL season for Frankston with two 40+ disposal performances.

Amazing attitude and wise beyond his years.

Mentioned that at the end of the 2018 season, he wasn't shocked to be delisted because we were clearing out our list and he needed off-season shoulder surgery which would have meant a delayed start to the preseason. I don't recall that ever being reported, but maybe I'm wrong.

If he keeps this form up I wouldn't be shocked if a team was tempted to take a punt at the midseason draft.

Also a Saints fan...
Freeman had another 35 disposals this week. Averaging 39 touches per game in the first 3 rounds of the season.
 

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Freeman had another 35 disposals this week. Averaging 39 touches per game in the first 3 rounds of the season.
Didn't Dunstan rack up about 40 disposals in the VFL not so long ago? Racking up big numbers in the VFL doesn't mean they will do similar in the AFL.
 

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Didn't Dunstan rack up about 40 disposals in the VFL not so long ago? Racking up big numbers in the VFL doesn't mean they will do similar in the AFL.
No doubt, but what else is he able to do to prove his worth? At the very least, it seems that he has put his injury issues behind him. Whether he has the speed, the endurance, the disposal etc etc to play at AFL level is obviously a big question mark, but I'd be shocked if there weren't quite a few club scouts turning up at Frankston games between now and the mid-season draft.
 

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No doubt, but what else is he able to do to prove his worth? At the very least, it seems that he has put his injury issues behind him. Whether he has the speed, the endurance, the disposal etc etc to play at AFL level is obviously a big question mark, but I'd be shocked if there weren't quite a few club scouts turning up at Frankston games between now and the mid-season draft.
Exactly. Everyone looked at and everyone selected, by us and by the other teams, will currently be playing in a lesser competition than the AFL.

Just have to trust the recruiters and their judgment.
 

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This could be a naive question but: do you think Brad & Ben are experiencing extra heat or pressure about their performances because they are indigenous?

I imagine there is always going to be some level of latent racism for these guys, but are they being treated in a different manner to other poorly performing players at the moment?

Is Long being racially vilified? Man I would hope not.
there were apparently racist remarks made via Facebook to the extent the club made social media statements about it.
 

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