News 2021 St.Kilda Media Thread

[Diehard Saint]

Caro and a few others did say we are putting together a god father offer for Ben king. If billing’s stay for less and hanners. Not to mention if we loose spook then that’s a bit of cash. I don’t want Caro to be right about much but on this one I do

See he’s kicked 0.2 so far - will fit right in. Maybe we have a kick off between the twins and the one who loses plays KPD?

 

[botts]

I don't see how. He's not going to walk to the draft, there are plenty of Vic teams that would pick him up too. IT's one thing to want to move back home to Melbourne, but why should Gold Coast ensure he ends up at St Kilda?

The idea that his contract finishing making it easier for St Kilda just doesn't add up to me.

Rumours are (and they are just rumours) that he would have a clause in the contract that says he has to be traded to a club of his choice. I reckon something like that would be in there

 

[Munga]

Hopefully people can lay off Hanners now and get around him. He's gone above and beyond trying to get his body right. Set back after set back must be close to breaking him.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Hopefully people can lay off Hanners now and get around him. He's gone above and beyond trying to get his body right. Set back after set back must be close to breaking him.

I daresay most people weren’t getting into Hanners personally, more just questioning the decision to trade for a player with known body frailties, and for the big contract he got. Especially considering the output.

 

[Mowman]

This should free up some more crap space next year.

Hannebery takes a fresh approach - and less money - at the Saints

Dan Hannebery has not stopped trying to make things work at the Saints and he hopes renegotiated terms and a new outlook will help him bounce back to his best

www.theage.com.au

Hannebery takes a fresh approach - and less money - at the Saints

By Peter Ryan
August 7, 2021 — 8.00am
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St Kilda midfielder Dan Hannebery has decided to enter 2022 on a significantly-reduced contract after renegotiating the final year of his deal, which was guaranteed until the end of next year.
The 30-year-old not only hopes his call helps clear some salary cap space for the Saints but is an acknowledgment from him that, despite everyone’s best efforts, injury has stopped him from delivering what he hoped to in his first three years at the Saints.

Frustrating time: Daniel Hannebery working his way back through the VFL.CREDIT:AFL PHOTOS
“It has no doubt been the most frustrating two or three years of my career. It has been incredibly challenging,” Hannebery said.
“I just thought it was the right timing and the right thing to do, given the reality of where my situation lies.

“I am very accepting and understanding of the situation. I haven’t played anywhere near the footy that I have wanted to play, and they are in the same boat. They would have wanted me to play a lot more than I have and have more of an impact.”
Unfortunately a series of soft-tissue injuries have restricted him to just 13 games so far at the Saints as his body has acted like a university student’s car, breaking down whenever Hannebery needs it most.
That is nowhere near satisfactory for a competitor who places such high expectations on himself, having arrived at the end of 2018 with a simple purpose: to help the Saints reach finals and, ultimately, win a second flag.
Now he wants to play the last two games of this season, and then have a run at it next season and hopefully, if the recent corner he turned presents less obstacles than those he whizzed around before, the season beyond that.

Dan Hannebery celebrates after scoring a goal during the match between the Saints and the Western Bulldogs in round three last year.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
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But he wants to do it the right way, with a fresh outlook, on a fair deal that reflects reality, and with an emerging group that is driven to put the Saints in contention.
Used to being hit hard throughout his illustrious career, Hannebery received a shirtfront in about the middle of the year that rocked him more than most and set him on a new path.
The Saints were in Sydney and he was about a week away from returning to play when another soft-tissue hiccup occurred, and his heart sank.“I had been busting my arse and doing everything and thought ‘this has just been exhausting. I am mentally cooked,’ ” Hannebery said.Those who know Hannebery suspect he has, if anything, strived too hard to solve the problems his body seemed to attract since his hamstring first went at St Kilda just months after he arrived, having played 201 of Sydney’s previous 220 games, and been a premiership player and three-time All-Australian.

After returning last season to play well in the Saints’ first finals win for a decade, his calf kept getting nicks so minor a snickometer would have struggled to pick them up, derailing this season too.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...p-to-revive-their-season-20210716-p58a8x.html
However, he did not let up. So desperate was he to repay the club and their supporters, who he understood would share his frustration, he searched everywhere for a solution.
“At St Kilda, I have taken it to the next level at different stages,” Hannebery said.
“After training I would try to find other avenues, whether it be yoga, pilates, movement, DNS training (otherwise known as dynamic neuromuscular stabilisation), acupuncture, whatever it is I’ve been trying to work overtime to bridge the gap or find any area I can improve to give myself a chance to get back quick. Whether it be diet or sleep ... all these different things I have been hammering away at for a while.”
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Finally, the mid-year setback forced him to re-evaluate his approach.
“Although spending a lot of your free time working on your body and trying to find ways to get better comes from a really good place, it actually almost creates more stress and anxieties, I guess, because you are trying to do everything you can possibly right,” Hannebery said.
“You put yourself under more pressure and then when things go don’t go to plan and you get setback after setback, it’s incredibly disheartening.”
It’s not only disheartening for him, he hastens to add, but for his dedicated support crew at the Saints that includes Steve Forcone, Andrew Wallis, Marcus Krygger, and Richard Citroen who have tirelessly worked under the bonnet for three seasons.
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Work with the club psychologist and a mindset coach helped him realise a balance is what is required, a difficult process for anyone who has found reward through hard work in the past.
At his return to the VFL a few weeks back, the extended Hannebery and O’Sullivan clan (his mum Geraldine is one of 12) all attended, showing not only their love for him but their admiration for the effort he has put in to get back to doing what he does best.
He appreciated their support as he knows they have seen him, in his words, “as flat as a biscuit” during this period as the rollercoaster ride kept going.
The only thing he can continue to be is himself, a charged-up, open book who is giving all he has got to make his involvement with the Saints work. No-one could ask for more.
“I’m investing 100 per cent. I want to try to finish my career playing some bloody good footy,” Hannebery said.

So looks like his contract wasn't heavily front loaded like everyone said it was

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

The point is, just because he's out of contract doesn't mean Gold Coast won't trade him to another Vic team if they are willing to give them a better outcome.

They can’t trade him to a club he doesn’t want to play for…

 

[George]

They can’t trade him to a club he doesn’t want to play for…

They can and they will and he will shut his mouth and enjoy it

 

[Premium]

The point is, just because he's out of contract doesn't mean Gold Coast won't trade him to another Vic team if they are willing to give them a better outcome.

What would most probably happens - if a club offers a better deal than what we offer we have to top it if we want him and they would be wanting a good player as well as draft picks.

 

[ScrappyDo]

So looks like his contract wasn't heavily front loaded like everyone said it was

Or it was and they're just spinning a good news story out of his lower salary this year.
Crucially there were no figures stated so it's all a bit naff IMHO.

 

[sammm]

It’s probably more likely to come from Hannebery. The club‘s got no leverage. I like to think he’s initiated it partly in good faith, partly to take some pressure off himself and partly to allow the club more room to sign players.
We’ll have a lot of space under the cap with the players who are retiring, the COVID reduction out of the way and other guys leaving or taking a pay cut.
The only problem will be who do we give the money to? We have to pay 95% so I hope we are getting some players in who are worth it.

We give the extra money to Steele. Next year is the end if his latest 2 year contract.

 

[sammm]

What the hell is this? Are they pinching $5mil directly from our area? That's next level sh*t

Yep, that's what's happening. I knew it would, once the hawks started spruiking Dingley.

 

[sauce_head]

Hopefully people can lay off Hanners now and get around him. He's gone above and beyond trying to get his body right. Set back after set back must be close to breaking him.

What’s happened to him?

 

[sammm]

What’s happened to him?

Read the news article above

 

[Ads734]

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Arguably one of the greatest trades in St.Kilda / AFL recent history?

A future second round pick for a club captain, a consistently elite performer, a future multiple BnF player and a Brownlow contending superstar. Absolutely unreal.

I still remember how the whole year we were linked to him and a Carlton thought they were going to swoop in and get him.

 

[puppy_dog7]

Unless he wants to come and play as a KPD then throwing a god offer at Ben would be a massive waste of money and draft picks.

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No it wouldn’t. Not only is he a very good forward in his own right, but it means teams have to worry about both Kings and can’t team up on Max.

 

[George]

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on ABC Grandstand (10:30 into it)

Sunday AFL: The march continues - ABC listen

The Jekyll and Hyde Saints kept their finals' hopes alive snapping a three game losing streak in an upset win over the Sydney Swans. Their coach, Brett Ratten, joined Corbin Middlemas, Brett Deledio and Lauren Arnell to discuss not only the match, but a wide range of football issues. That...

www.abc.net.au

 

[Minga]

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Good write up IMO. Features my favourite ever description of Zak Jones

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“He is a strange bird, this one. Crashes in like a contested mid, but runs like the wind and does damage on the outside as well. Players like this don’t just happen by that often.

St Kilda are a better side with him in it – he is a chaos merchant, and sows the seeds of disharmony in the opposition when he throws himself into the contest. There was little to no ill-will in this one against his old team, but against a side he has little affection for, Jones could be an absolute weapon.”

 

[KingsRansom]

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Good write up IMO. Features my favourite ever description of Zak Jones:

“He is a strange bird, this one. Crashes in like a contested mid, but runs like the wind and does damage on the outside as well. Players like this don’t just happen by that often.

St Kilda are a better side with him in it – he is a chaos merchant, and sows the seeds of disharmony in the opposition when he throws himself into the contest. There was little to no ill-will in this one against his old team, but against a side he has little affection for, Jones could be an absolute weapon.”

"And also, poor bugger is nicknamed ‘Coops’ and he represents the Saints. Maybe Tom Morris can secure an interview where Coops can assure us he is the sole third forward in the St Kilda line up… just in case anyone was wondering."

 

[gringo2011]

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Good write up IMO. Features my favourite ever description of Zak Jones:

“He is a strange bird, this one. Crashes in like a contested mid, but runs like the wind and does damage on the outside as well. Players like this don’t just happen by that often.

St Kilda are a better side with him in it – he is a chaos merchant, and sows the seeds of disharmony in the opposition when he throws himself into the contest. There was little to no ill-will in this one against his old team, but against a side he has little affection for, Jones could be an absolute weapon.”

Jones is a very unique player. He is definitely a chaos merchant. After suggesting DMac was a ferret on amphetamines I reckon that describes Jones better. Plays frenetic crazy footy. DMac, Dunny, Jones etc are all better off the chain types and play messy unpredictable footy. We got better after the bye because we embraced the chaos and stopped trying to be too fancy. Nothing wrong with messy when it's effective. Richmond's 3 flags were based on it.

 

[Bill Mohr]

I daresay most people weren’t getting into Hanners personally, more just questioning the decision to trade for a player with known body frailties, and for the big contract he got. Especially considering the output.

Be good to see him play a few games next year, but his legs would have to be almost gone now and just a breakdown waiting to happen.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Be good to see him play a few games next year, but his legs would have to be almost gone now and just a breakdown waiting to happen.

Mixed feelings. Doubt we’re making finals now and I really don’t want him taking the spot of a young developing player - either now or next season.

Let’s use him as a mid-field coach. We’ve been hurt by the reduction of footy spend and we’re paying him anyway.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

I still remember how the whole year we were linked to him and a Carlton thought they were going to swoop in and get him.

A few raised eyebrows when he first arrived fat and unfit though. Has come a hell of a long way since then.

 

[George]

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Jones is a very unique player. He is definitely a chaos merchant. After suggesting DMac was a ferret on amphetamines I reckon that describes Jones better. Plays frenetic crazy footy. DMac, Dunny, Jones etc are all better off the chain types and play messy unpredictable footy. We got better after the bye because we embraced the chaos and stopped trying to be too fancy. Nothing wrong with messy when it's effective. Richmond's 3 flags were based on it.

Guess which player this reminds me of......

 

[gringo2011]

Guess which player this reminds me of......

That the LoneDog or Butts? Kenty played like a blue heeler last week usually more like a fat Labrador.