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List Mgmt. 2021 Team & Beyond...
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That’s a disaster if true. I reckon Fogs is more likely to be used in that fashion.
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We seem to keep forgetting that Brisbane and port will also be better. I’m not sure we’ve just seen the best from this group and coaches.
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Relying on one or three players is the problem of the nineties and now. We’re too star focussed. But significant improvements in mid level players got us to a Gf. V.disappointed in Rohan and Dahl. Both gave us little. I’m not sure why.
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- May 18, 2016
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Dahl was ok in the gf. But he simply does not hit the score board enough. We need a goal kicking small forward who can also provide the forward pressure he does. It shouldn’t be one or the other. There are players who can do both.
Well, we know that at this stage the club is totally committed to doing all it can to compete every year.
They are refusing to rebuild a la Melbourne/Carlton/Gold Coast/etc.
They want to be able to "look every player in the face, and honestly say, we will be doing everything we can to give you the chance to win the flag next season."
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We don’t need a rebuild. But there is no harm in bringing in some fresh blood to try to get us to that next step.
Who and how?
And lets not say the draft. The club still draft and plan to again this year.
So you must be thinking of something else.
We need to free up 3-4 spots in our best 22 for younger players from this group:
Bews
Touhy
Luke D
Henderson
Rohan
Bews
Touhy
Luke D
Henderson
Rohan
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Recruit players who aren’t a million years old.
Who and how?
Can’t believe Touhy is getting 2 years. Have we learnt nothing from Ryan Abbott, James Parsons etc.
He’s not going anywhere and at 31 it’s surely year by year deals. Playing on a wing I just cannot see how Clark won’t be ahead of him in Rd 1.
2E is a different situation to Abbott and Parsons. He's good enough to play.
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Blic has had an awesome season, and has been lauded as one of, if not the best, utilities going around. He did have a poor GF game. Is he another Ben Graham? ie a great player, but just missing something that you can help win a flag? At present, he would be grabbed by most teams if he was available. But as a FB, I think he is easily our best bet. Specially if Harry goes, and we ruck both SaV and Stanley, and play both Cameron and Hawkins up forward. We were too limited in KF and Ruck in the GF.
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Wouldn't think so.
The way I see it, guys like Tuohy, Henderson, Dahlhaus, Kolo and Rohan should either be playing their best footy at the back end of 2021, or sitting in the stands watching younger blokes running around.
The problem with "doing everything to give the chance next season" is that it is at the cost of our chances the seasons three, four and five years down the track.
I feel we are running in ever decreasing circles.
The line is getting thinner, that's for sure.
But we are doing everything we can to add younger players via draft etc.
We will look to find them in other areas as well - maybe this 18 B'baller/ruck prospect (who knows?).
Its all we can do really.
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I’m not sure we are doing everything we can.
Our draftees need games to develop, not just time on the track/in the gym.
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What am i, the list manager?
They have this thing called trading. Only a week or so ago cooky was bragging about having player managers coming to us all the time offering up their players to us. Find ones that suit that aren’t at retirement age.
Yes. I do agree we could have given a few more games to a few young players to develop.
But on the other hand we did that consistently from 2011-2019.
Those players are the ones playing well now - Menegola, Guthrie, Blitz, Bews, Parfitt, Duncan.
We would have given Cocky more games but for injury and what seems like tentativeness.
Narkle as well but for injury this year.
And Simpson but for injury.
And Clark but for injury.
We have given games to Miers and O'Conner and Henry and Sav, and Close.
I think we have been aware of this need to develop.
But when push comes to shove, get the best players in and go for a flag - which we very nearly pinched!
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Depends on your definition of rebuild. We're not starting a list from scratch but we need to turn into a very different different side defensively if we're losing Blitz from the midfield and Rohan from the forward line.
Our defence is probably best in the league but many of our defenders are not individually brilliant and rely on slower entries based on defensive work from gut running mids and defensive forwards.
If Cameron comes in and we are forced to send Blitz back. Then we need a second ruck forward. That's Hawk + Sav + Cameron in the forward line applying not much defensive pressure. We lose two defensive forwards and a defensive/intercept marking mid in the exchange.
If we go in trying to do the same thing we did this year I can see us being maybe 3 goals better in attack and 5 goals worse in defence. So I think something needs to change fundamentally in regards to defensive work and structure. If your definition of rebuild is to build a completely different playing style to the previous year then that's what this is.
To make it work I think we'll need to press up much less and park extra players in the corridor to prevent fast rebounding entries. The trade off is that an extra defender might get off the leash a bit for intercepts. That's probably why we're being linked to Higgins and Smith, their disposal by foot and ability to put a f50 entry in the right spot is valuable. Clark I think needs to take Blitz spot on the wing too with his kicking ability.
Also if we start losing clearances by any margin I think we're in strife so danger is probably back in the middle, which loses us a big ground level threat forward.
I think it's a risky proposition. I also think that the recruitment team, having put 2 years of work into Jez probably didn't expect Hawk to win a coleman at 32. I'm not sure they expected to play both. It took 3 years to develop that defensive f50 pressure system they have today, I don't think we have 3 years this time.
How the hell havnt geelong tapped taylor on the shoulder and told him his time is up. Geelong ships off fowards as soon as they are 32 but defenders at this club seem to get the freedom to choose whenever they want to leave. Taylor you are 34 ffs. Time to go. We need to put blicavs back into defence.
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They're probably worried about 3 talls in the forward line if Blitz can't ruck
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