Analysis 2021 trade and list management thread 1

[the Ziebull]

Lmacs best mate Jack Billings

15

Jack Billings

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

a free agent next year

wouldn’t be surprised to see him come over, from memory we were rumoured to be interested last time billings was out of contract

 

[Snake_Baker]

Lmacs best mate Jack Billings

15

Jack Billings

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

a free agent next year

wouldn’t be surprised to see him come over, from memory we were rumoured to be interested last time billings was out of contract

...................and we're off!

 

[the Ziebull]

...................and we're off!

Lol you started the thread you muppet

 

[Lomas]

We won't be having future interactions.

That's a shame. I was hoping to learn at your knee what the good footy judges think.

 

[Le Grille]

Lol you started the thread you muppet

I think he’s happy you kicked off the major whispers


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[GreatBradScott]

Hall, Campbell and Tyson are three you immediately see in the gun, bar some unforseen turnaround or need.

You'd hope Bonar comes on with some defensive versatility or it could get awkward come August if he is still playing for a contract then.

Not really seeing anyone senior getting turfed for picks next year, will probably be a standard 5-7 list turnover.

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Would love to get Cripps, just to sh*t tease my mate.

 

[Luke72]

I don’t get the Hall knockers, I reckon he had a pretty good season overall. He needs to work on his consistency admittedly but as the team improves I think he still offers a bit. He also seems to be a good leader with the young guys.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I don’t get the Hall knockers, I reckon he had a pretty good season overall. He needs to work on his consistency admittedly but as the team improves I think he still offers a bit. He also seems to be a good leader with the young guys.

Supercoach

 

[Only Forwards]

I don’t get the Hall knockers, I reckon he had a pretty good season overall. He needs to work on his consistency admittedly but as the team improves I think he still offers a bit. He also seems to be a good leader with the young guys.

He had an ok season as a senior player in a team that finished 17th.
He's not a fabric of the club type player.

You'd want to be hoping he's either become super consistent and more reliable especially around goals.

We cut players this year that could have continued in next year. I'd suggest that Hall will find himself in that position in 12 months time.

Our strategy is clearly centered around an age demographic of players that he is not in.

 

[Only Forwards]

Supercoach

I don't play it.

I reckon if he's in the list in 22 he's both lucky and depth.

 

[Soft Downhill Skier]

Lol a year of this loser using ‘supercoach’ as a rebuttal.

 

[7577969923]

I don't play it.

I reckon if he's in the list in 22 he's both lucky and depth.

If he's on the list in 22 it won't be lucky. It will be because he has had a year in 2021 that convinced the coaching and list management groups that he has more offer. That will be the result of hard work and consistency over 21. He has some genuinely elite attributes.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I don't play it.

I reckon if he's in the list in 22 he's both lucky and depth.

Sure. That's what you reckon.

I don't see any reasonable basis for what you reckon, and that's the actual point.

If he's on the list in 22 it won't be lucky. It will be because he has had a year in 2021 that convinced the coaching and list management groups that he has more offer. That will be the result of hard work and consistency over 21. He has some genuinely elite attributes.

He gave us something that we need, but I'd like to see the finishing improve. I reckon the injestion of pace and the improvement in the younger players, can only help him be better in 2021.

 

[Only Forwards]

I don't see any reasonable basis for what you reckon, and that's the actual point.

My analysis is Jamie Macmillan

34

Jamie Macmillan

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.3

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

368.8

5star

D

11.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.3

3star

MG

212.7

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.6

4star

and Shaun Higgins

4

Shaun Higgins

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

2.4

4star

D

21.8

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.0

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

4star

.

Both could be playing for North in 2021 and aren't.

Hall doesn't have the standing of JMac nor the ability of Higgins.

It's got f*** all to do stats.

And it'll be where Hall finds himself at the end of next year. Giving way to kids.

 

[Snake_Baker]

My analysis is Jamie Macmillan

34

Jamie Macmillan

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.3

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

368.8

5star

D

11.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.3

3star

MG

212.7

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.6

4star

and Shaun Higgins

4

Shaun Higgins

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

2.4

4star

D

21.8

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.0

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

4star

.

Both could be playing for North in 2021 and aren't.

Hall doesn't have the standing of JMac nor the ability of Higgins.

It's got f*** all to do stats.

And it'll be where Hall finds himself at the end of next year. Giving way to kids.

Good for you.

 

[Soft Downhill Skier]

My analysis is Jamie Macmillan

34

Jamie Macmillan

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.3

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

368.8

5star

D

11.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.3

3star

MG

212.7

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.6

4star

and Shaun Higgins

4

Shaun Higgins

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

2.4

4star

D

21.8

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.0

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

4star

.

Both could be playing for North in 2021 and aren't.

Hall doesn't have the standing of JMac nor the ability of Higgins.

It's got f*** all to do stats.

And it'll be where Hall finds himself at the end of next year. Giving way to kids.

Snake will find some stats regarding Hall. Because hes a halfwit, he has no idea supercoach is derived from these very same stats.

FWIW yeah Hall is just depth if we’re playing well.

 

[disco_cowboy]

If he's on the list in 22 it won't be lucky. It will be because he has had a year in 2021 that convinced the coaching and list management groups that he has more offer. That will be the result of hard work and consistency over 21. He has some genuinely elite attributes.

I just don't rate his decision making or lack of. Love seeing him burst out of a pack to the 50m arc but then can't decide if having a shot or lowering the eyes.

 

[7577969923]

I just don't rate his decision making or lack of. Love seeing him burst out of a pack to the 50m arc but then can't decide if having a shot or lowering the eyes.

He did noticeably change his play at a point in the season. He had copped criticism for blazing away and then after that played far more team-oriented footy and lowered his eyes looking for an option.

If he produces consistent football over 2021 and executes what the coaches want then I can see him getting an extension. It will be a challenge for guys like him and Atley though as we are clearly all-in on building a team around our 23 and under cohort. They will need to prove they can play a role in that context.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I just don't rate his decision making or lack of. Love seeing him burst out of a pack to the 50m arc but then can't decide if having a shot or lowering the eyes.

It appeared to me to be coaching instructions that conflicted with his natural attacking flair, and he wasn't the only one who looked that way in 2020.

 

[Only Forwards]

FWIW yeah Hall is just depth if we’re playing well.

I doubt it'll be reliant on us playing well.

Our future is clearly with a group of players that he's not part of.

We have a glut of half forward types.

Given how we're building he wouldn't have the desired footskills for half back.

If we're contracting Hall to play mid forward in 2022 why in the f*** didn't we just keep Higgo?

I mean he's two years older but a significantly better player.

 

[Pykie]

Sure. That's what you reckon.

I don't see any reasonable basis for what you reckon, and that's the actual point.



He gave us something that we need, but I'd like to see the finishing improve. I reckon the injestion of pace and the improvement in the younger players, can only help him be better in 2021.

Did you listen to the Q&A? they kind of let slip this is a 4 year plan.

They also mentioned the senior experienced players they want around the group and Hall wasn’t one of them.

They also mentioned the age demographic they want for the list and Brown didn’t fit into it at 29 this year. Hall just turned 30.


Barring a career best year, Hall will be traded or delisted next year.

He’s a 30 year old, fringe 22 player in a side that wants to build around their core 20-22 year olds.

 

[Only Forwards]

Did you listen to the Q&A? they kind of let slip this is a 4 year plan.

They also mentioned the senior experienced players they want around the group and Hall wasn’t one of them.

They also mentioned the age demographic they want for the list and Brown didn’t fit into it at 29 this year. Hall just turned 30.


Barring a career best year, Hall will be traded or delisted next year.

But Supercoach?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Did you listen to the Q&A?

No.

They also mentioned the senior experienced players they want around the group and Hall wasn’t one of them.

The absence of evidence does not prove the evidence of absence.

They also mentioned the age demographic they want for the list and Brown didn’t fit into it at 29 this year.

If Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

28

Ht

200cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

was Tom Lynch then I reckon that notion would evaporate instantly. It's actually a ridicuous comment on their behalf.

Barring a career best year, Hall will be traded or delisted next year.

Good for you.

 

[Soft Downhill Skier]

But Supercoach?

He doesnt realise the stats he throws around are used to calculate Supercoah. It's the weirdest thing e cant understand it.