List Mgmt. 2021 Trade, FA and Draft Chat

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LeverPuller

BigFooty Tanker
Jun 23, 2011
34,408
39,551
Q49, Olympic Stand
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Newcastle United Seattle Seahawks

Retired:
Nathan Jones, Neville Jetta

Delisted:
Aaron vandenBerg, Austin Bradtke (CatB), Aaron Nietschke, Jay Lockhart, Kye Declase, Marty Hore

Added:
Luke Dunstan (Unrestricted FA, St Kilda)

List Spots (18/10):
6 (4 main, 2 rookie)
 
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Plugger35

The umpires are always right!
Sep 27, 2008
108,093
126,310
AFL Club
St Kilda
Other Teams
Chelsea, Black Caps, Subiaco
We got Dean Kent from you guys.

We got stiffed
 

danster168

Club Legend
Apr 29, 2016
1,690
1,732
AFL Club
Melbourne
I'm still on the fence whether they make finals next year.

They can easily win 10 games but when you're carrying a team nearly made up of 30 year olds then injuries will catch up to their bodies eventually

Dangerfield, Hawkins and Selwood are all 33 and 34 next year. I mean I can easily reel off a list of names that are 30 plus who I think we'll struggle next year. Same names that struggled this year.
How are they all 33 and 34 if Danger is 31?
 

Topkent

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2010
47,686
63,925
Canada
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Winnipeg Jets
Nah they’re cooked.

Formline at the end of the year:
Loss 19pts
Win 14pts
Loss 4pts
Loss 43pts
Win 35pts
Loss 83pts

And that was with everyone bar Stewart fit for most of that run.

They will make finals in 2022, do absolutely no damage and then the retirements will start to kick in
Lmao I don't think they'll do any damage next year but using their form line is ******* stupid

They went 2-4 including 2 losses to the premier, one of which they were infront of the premier by 44

Is this team that went 3-4 to finish the year cooked?

Lost by 13
Lost by 27
Lost by 2
Won by 49
Won by 1
Won by 71
Lost 74
 

Gysberts2Bate

Brownlow Medallist
Jun 12, 2013
21,503
27,288
Melbourne
AFL Club
Melbourne
Brayden Sier is an interesting delisting, given Collingwood are sh*t and he played in a GF three years ago when they were good and he was 20. Must have gone a fair way backwards quickly
 

A11dAtP0w3R

Strong Premiership DNA
Oct 18, 2013
53,585
65,896
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Carolina Panthers. Zach Wilson.
Lmao I don't think they'll do any damage next year but using their form line is ******* stupid

They went 2-4 including 2 losses to the premier, one of which they were infront of the premier by 44

Is this team that went 3-4 to finish the year cooked?

Lost by 13
Lost by 27
Lost by 2
Won by 49
Won by 1
Won by 71
Lost 74
100% cooked imo. :tearsofjoy:
 

A11dAtP0w3R

Strong Premiership DNA
Oct 18, 2013
53,585
65,896
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Carolina Panthers. Zach Wilson.
Looking at Melbourne's form line over the last six games, seems to me to be a team who has a premiership in the bag.

I should become a professional form analyst and bet on the nags for a living now I know how to read form.
 

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Lampers

Club Legend
May 27, 2004
1,138
2,068
Eastside
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Melbourne
In hindsight they shouldn't have gotten Cameron IMO. He isn't going to be anywhere near able to carry the forwardline like Hawkins has when the big fella retires in a year or two.
They’ve gone all in with this older playing group because they know the pain that’s coming up.

They basically had no real choice, so going for Cameron and even now Ceglar as the one last, not really this time, hurrah makes sense.
Yes they traded currency for Cameron, but they would’ve been very lucky to get genuine team redefining talents with a pick 14 or 17 or whatever they gave up.

Geelong’s last shot at it with Selwood, Hawkins, Dangerfield etc. is 2022. They won’t get it done because there’s just better teams around. I think it would be best for them if they crash hard in 2022 and at least they can stop hoping their strategy may work because they still finish high up, and rebuild hard from 2022 trade and draft period.

When they crash, it will be a hard crash. That will mean they will likely have a couple of years of top five draft picks and another pick in the 20s and that can really set them up if they nail those picks. Add a couple of Geelong area raised free agents returning and they will be (annoyingly) OK again in 2025 or 2026.
 

mrmonkey

Norm Smith Medallist
Dec 3, 2010
7,122
7,287
Melbourne
AFL Club
Melbourne
They’ve gone all in with this older playing group because they know the pain that’s coming up.

They basically had no real choice, so going for Cameron and even now Ceglar as the one last, not really this time, hurrah makes sense.
Yes they traded currency for Cameron, but they would’ve been very lucky to get genuine team redefining talents with a pick 14 or 17 or whatever they gave up.

Geelong’s last shot at it with Selwood, Hawkins, Dangerfield etc. is 2022. They won’t get it done because there’s just better teams around. I think it would be best for them if they crash hard in 2022 and at least they can stop hoping their strategy may work because they still finish high up, and rebuild hard from 2022 trade and draft period.

When they crash, it will be a hard crash. That will mean they will likely have a couple of years of top five draft picks and another pick in the 20s and that can really set them up if they nail those picks. Add a couple of Geelong area raised free agents returning and they will be (annoyingly) OK again in 2025 or 2026.
I reckon their list under 30 is in worse shape then what Melbourne was by the end of 2007, but they probably won't stuff up their rebuild like Melbourne from 07-11.
 

Lampers

Club Legend
May 27, 2004
1,138
2,068
Eastside
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Melbourne
I reckon their list under 30 is in worse shape then what Melbourne was by the end of 2007, but they probably won't stuff up their rebuild like Melbourne from 07-11.
Yes, they probably won’t have an incompetent recruiting team, probably won’t purge all players with leadership qualities, and probably will invest in development of young players.
 

Dogga6

Team Captain
May 11, 2021
478
925
AFL Club
Melbourne
Starting to see clubs announce more delistings. Still no new on Hore, Declase and Hibberd.

Interestingly on grand final day watching all the pre game stuff Jon Ralph stated that Hibberd would sign a new 1 year deal and it would be announced few days after the grand final.
 

Topkent

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2010
47,686
63,925
Canada
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Winnipeg Jets
Starting to see clubs announce more delistings. Still no new on Hore, Declase and Hibberd.

Interestingly on grand final day watching all the pre game stuff Jon Ralph stated that Hibberd would sign a new 1 year deal and it would be announced few days after the grand final.
PIgs probably considering retirement. Isn't guaranteed best 22 next year.

Can't see us delisting 2 more unless we need extra space for mid season picks. We already have to use draft pick 47 or whatever, can't see us taking on extra rookies
 

Jamurp

Premiership Player
Apr 26, 2011
3,449
5,561
AFL Club
Melbourne
I reckon their list under 30 is in worse shape then what Melbourne was by the end of 2007, but they probably won't stuff up their rebuild like Melbourne from 07-11.
Problem for Geelong is it’s hard to see which of their younger players are going to replace their older brigade as they taper off over the next few years, there’s genuinely no elite talent that you can see stepping up and filling the void in 2,3,4 years time.

They’ll probably still make top 4 next season, but younger and better sides will overun them at the pointy end of the season, feels like 2020 was really their golden opportunity with this current group.

Won’t write off Geelong until they’re actually looking cooked ladder wise though.
 

Jibroni

Club Legend
Jun 14, 2017
2,014
2,630
Adelaide
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Liverpool, AC Milan, North Adelaide
Problem for Geelong is it’s hard to see which of their younger players are going to replace their older brigade as they taper off over the next few years, there’s genuinely no elite talent that you can see stepping up and filling the void in 2,3,4 years time.

They’ll probably still make top 4 next season, but younger and better sides will overun them at the pointy end of the season, feels like 2020 was really their golden opportunity with this current group.

Won’t write off Geelong until they’re actually looking cooked ladder wise though.
Personally I think there done and about to head free fall down the cliff. I expect Brisbane, Richmond, Port and Sydney to leap frog them and along with the Dogs be our main challenges. A couple of injuries and they could miss finals.
 

Dogga6

Team Captain
May 11, 2021
478
925
AFL Club
Melbourne
PIgs probably considering retirement. Isn't guaranteed best 22 next year.

Can't see us delisting 2 more unless we need extra space for mid season picks. We already have to use draft pick 47 or whatever, can't see us taking on extra rookies
This was my thought exactly about Hib. Reckon now that he's gotten himself a premiership and the dust has settled a bit, he potentially may have had a change of heart and decided to step away on his own positive terms knowing he'll battle to get a spot next year.
 

Topkent

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2010
47,686
63,925
Canada
AFL Club
Melbourne
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Winnipeg Jets
This was my thought exactly about Hib. Reckon now that he's gotten himself a premiership and the dust has settled a bit, he potentially may have had a change of heart and decided to step away on his own positive terms knowing he'll battle to get a spot next year.
I love the pig, but my guess is the club will want to give Hunt and Tomlinson/Hore etc a crack at his spot.
 

Dory_77

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 2, 2012
6,223
6,270
AFL Club
Melbourne
Yes, they probably won’t have an incompetent recruiting team, probably won’t purge all players with leadership qualities, and probably will invest in development of young players.
For all the talk of how great Wells is he hasn't had many hits in the last 15-odd years. Granted he's had few high first rounders to work with, but he's talked of as some guru who'll get a gun each year at pick 50 when that clearly isn't the case.
 

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