List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread I

[Shermanator]

The Ben Brown disgruntled ’rumour’ came from one of those BS Facebook pages run by a 12yo. Don’t fall for that crap.

Yeah I know, i was just having a bit of fun with it.

saying that, I do believe everyone and everything on FB, its like, real life-n-stuff..

 

[The Y Factor]

View attachment 1149691

ok here we go with a 4-way trade scenario if Harry wants to come to the best club in the world.

NM IN: H. McKay
NM OUT: 2022 first rounder & pick 20.

BLWS IN: NM 2022 first rounder & pick 20, A. Cerra & B. Brown.
BLWS OUT: Pick 5, Pick 24.

FREO IN: Pick 5
FREO OUT: A. Cerra.

MELB IN: Pick 24.
MELB OUT: B. Brown

* NM get their man in HMac and use it to leverage JK too. Should get another two picks in 20’s for Frog compo & PP.
* BLWS get their man in Cerra and also have an instant plug in Full forward, plus have 2 x first rounders in 2022.
* FREO get to use pick 5 on WA boy 191 cm midfielder Matt Johnson whose likened to Pendleburry.
* MELB get to offload a reportedly disgruntled B. Brown for a big pick upgrade.

Surely Brown, Cerra and a 2 x first rounders is way overs for Harry?

 

[Rooboys Rool]

View attachment 1149691

ok here we go with a 4-way trade scenario if Harry wants to come to the best club in the world.

NM IN: H. McKay
NM OUT: 2022 first rounder & pick 20.

BLWS IN: NM 2022 first rounder & pick 20, A. Cerra & B. Brown.
BLWS OUT: Pick 5, Pick 24.

FREO IN: Pick 5
FREO OUT: A. Cerra.

MELB IN: Pick 24.
MELB OUT: B. Brown

* NM get their man in HMac and use it to leverage JK too. Should get another two picks in 20’s for Frog compo & PP.
* BLWS get their man in Cerra and also have an instant plug in Full forward, plus have 2 x first rounders in 2022.
* FREO get to use pick 5 on WA boy 191 cm midfielder Matt Johnson whose likened to Pendleburry.
* MELB get to offload a reportedly disgruntled B. Brown for a big pick upgrade.

Just need to add HMac to your BLWS OUT line.

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[Shermanator]

Surely Brown, Cerra and a 2 x first rounders is way overs for Harry?

One of the first rounders in 2022 is their own mate.

 

[giantroo]

Harry McKay contract: Carlton in talks to re-sign Coleman Medal contender
He’s one of the hottest off-contract players on the market. But Harry McKay’s rivals are struggling to tempt him out of Carlton — here’s why.

Jon Ralph

9 min read
June 8, 2021 - 4:29PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Carlton will attempt to broker a mega-deal with Harry McKay in coming weeks while saddled with an extraordinary $4 million contract for Mitch McGovern that has two seasons to run.

The Blues are set to kick off contract talks with McKay’s manager David Trotter this week, with the star goalkicker’s camp dealing exclusively with Carlton despite outside interest.

While terms and tenure are yet to be thrashed out, a three-year deal of as much as $3 million would take him through to free agency at eight seasons served.

Carlton remains adamant it still have the cap space to secure another midfielder, with Fremantle’s Adam Cerra firmly in the club’s sights.

He has so far rebuffed a four-year contract at the Dockers, and would likely only sign a two-year extension if he remained out west.

But the full scope of McGovern’s contract can be revealed, with confusion about the length of his contract when he signed at Carlton.

The deal extends to a full five seasons and while some of that money is front-ended, he is due an average of $800,000 per season across the five-year deal.

Carlton list boss Steve Silvagni was forced to offer a five-year deal when a disgruntled McGovern wanted out from Adelaide, with the high-leaping forward going from a contender to a rebuilding team.

The Blues always believed they would take time to build a midfield that would help service McGovern, Charlie Curnow and McKay.

But after the best pre-season of his three years at Carlton McGovern battled back and hamstring issues, returned in Round 5 and then suffered a serious hamstring injury after four goals in three games.

Carlton list manager Steve Silvagni said when the club recruited him he would complement the club’s existing forwards.

“He’s got a great pair of hands and we’ve all seen how accurate he is in front of goal, so we’re excited to see what he can produce alongside our young forwards that we’ve drafted in Charlie Curnow, Harry McKay and Tom De Koning,” he said.

“After going to the draft for the past three years, we’ve been vocal about our need to start recruiting players within that 23- to 27-year age
bracket and Mitch fits that profile. At 23 years old, he’s got a lot of footy in front of him and we hope he’ll be a long-term player for our club.“

McGovern is back running and attempting to ramp up his training for a return in coming weeks.

The Blues secured Zac Williams on a five-year deal that is worth more than $800,000.

The Blues have always maintained that deal is closer to $800,000 per season.

But North Melbourne was the underbidder and was told their $800,000 offer was $100,000 short of the Carlton offer if incentives and bonuses were factored in.

Carlton has been able to front-end many of those deals given it had ample salary cap room, so while its cap is tight this year it has the capacity to bring in another player.

Players on more than $600,000 a season would include Jack Martin, Adam Saad, Patrick Cripps, Charlie Curnow, Williams, and likely best-and-fairest winner Jacob Weitering.

Sam Walsh is in the third year of a current two-year extension but as the club’s most dynamic player will surely be set for a massive extension well before his contract expires in 2023.

Carlton traded its third-round pick to Gold Coast as part of a pick swap last year but otherwise has its first and second-round picks, currently at No. 5 and 23.

 

[The Nostradamus]

We need to offer a mil and he’s worth it

 

[Snake_Baker]

Carlton remains adamant it still have the cap space to secure another midfielder, with Fremantle’s Adam Cerra firmly in the club’s sights.

Oh please!

The Blues secured Zac Williams on a five-year deal that is worth more than $800,000. The Blues have always maintained that deal is closer to $800,000 per season. But North Melbourne was the underbidder and was told their $800,000 offer was $100,000 short of the Carlton offer if incentives and bonuses were factored in.

Thank * for that!

 

[Kanga Glory]

The Blues secured Zac Williams on a five-year deal that is worth more than $800,000.

The Blues have always maintained that deal is closer to $800,000 per season.

But North Melbourne was the underbidder and was told their $800,000 offer was $100,000 short of the Carlton offer if incentives and bonuses were factored in.

 

[krakouers]

The Blues secured Zac Williams on a five-year deal that is worth more than $800,000.

The Blues have always maintained that deal is closer to $800,000 per season.

But North Melbourne was the underbidder and was told their $800,000 offer was $100,000 short of the Carlton offer if incentives and bonuses were factored in.

View attachment 1150068

$900k for a HBF... ludicrious

 

[Snake_Baker]

Martin is the only really big play we have missed out on in a decade.

The others were all blessings in disguise.

 

[Merlin007]

$900k for a HBF... ludicrious

what was more ludicrous was the idea he was suddenly going to become a marquee midfielder, with I think, one game in the role as evidence

 

[Passmore]

The Blues secured Zac Williams on a five-year deal that is worth more than $800,000.

The Blues have always maintained that deal is closer to $800,000 per season.

But North Melbourne was the underbidder and was told their $800,000 offer was $100,000 short of the Carlton offer if incentives and bonuses were factored in.

View attachment 1150068

How often, when a player moves clubs purely for money, does it actually pay off?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

How in the * can Carlton be paying that much to win this many games while staying 'under' that cap?

 

[WD Roo]

The Blues secured Zac Williams on a five-year deal that is worth more than $800,000.

The Blues have always maintained that deal is closer to $800,000 per season.

But North Melbourne was the underbidder and was told their $800,000 offer was $100,000 short of the Carlton offer if incentives and bonuses were factored in.

View attachment 1150068

How are those bonuses working out Zac?

 

[WD Roo]

View attachment 1149691

ok here we go with a 4-way trade scenario if Harry wants to come to the best club in the world.

NM IN: H. McKay
NM OUT: 2022 first rounder & pick 20.

BLWS IN: NM 2022 first rounder & pick 20, A. Cerra & B. Brown.
BLWS OUT: Pick 5, Pick 24.

FREO IN: Pick 5
FREO OUT: A. Cerra.

MELB IN: Pick 24.
MELB OUT: B. Brown

* NM get their man in HMac and use it to leverage JK too. Should get another two picks in 20’s for Frog compo & PP.
* BLWS get their man in Cerra and also have an instant plug in Full forward, plus have 2 x first rounders in 2022.
* FREO get to use pick 5 on WA boy 191 cm midfielder Matt Johnson whose likened to Pendleburry.
* MELB get to offload a reportedly disgruntled B. Brown for a big pick upgrade.

I can see young Cera rolling his eyes just like draft night when we picked LDU. Off to another s**t club!!

 

[Higgo2Froggy]

what was more ludicrous was the idea he was suddenly going to become a marquee midfielder, with I think, one game in the role as evidence

Not only that, but all the talk after they got him and throughout the preseason was how he was the answer to their midfield problems, finally the man to bring some support to Cripps and Walsh - all seemingly because he played an admittedly very good final through the middle for GWS in 2019
Half a season later, he's been punted back to halfback, in turn punting their already good halfback Docherty onto the wing
Oh and the midfield aside from Cripps and Walsh is still stuffed...

 

[Star]

As painful as the last 12 months have been for North supporters, it consoles me to think St.Kilda, Carlton and to an extent, Collingwood, have all sold the farm and failed miserably.

We will go past all 3 like they’re standing still, soon enough

 

[The Filth Wizard]

As painful as the last 12 months have been for North supporters, it consoles me to think St.Kilda, Carlton and to an extent, Collingwood, have all sold the farm and failed miserably.

We will go past all 3 like they’re standing still, soon enough

In a year or so we'll also be adding Geelong to that list.

 

[Star]

In a year or so we'll also be adding Geelong to that list.

And Hawthorn...

 

[shinboner magic]

In a year or so we'll also be adding Geelong to that list.

Have a heart man - think of the dangerflag

 

[scottywiper]

Harry McKay contract: Carlton in talks to re-sign Coleman Medal contender
He’s one of the hottest off-contract players on the market. But Harry McKay’s rivals are struggling to tempt him out of Carlton — here’s why.

Jon Ralph

9 min read
June 8, 2021 - 4:29PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Carlton will attempt to broker a mega-deal with Harry McKay in coming weeks while saddled with an extraordinary $4 million contract for Mitch McGovern that has two seasons to run.

The Blues are set to kick off contract talks with McKay’s manager David Trotter this week, with the star goalkicker’s camp dealing exclusively with Carlton despite outside interest.

While terms and tenure are yet to be thrashed out, a three-year deal of as much as $3 million would take him through to free agency at eight seasons served.

Carlton remains adamant it still have the cap space to secure another midfielder, with Fremantle’s Adam Cerra firmly in the club’s sights.

He has so far rebuffed a four-year contract at the Dockers, and would likely only sign a two-year extension if he remained out west.

But the full scope of McGovern’s contract can be revealed, with confusion about the length of his contract when he signed at Carlton.

The deal extends to a full five seasons and while some of that money is front-ended, he is due an average of $800,000 per season across the five-year deal.

Carlton list boss Steve Silvagni was forced to offer a five-year deal when a disgruntled McGovern wanted out from Adelaide, with the high-leaping forward going from a contender to a rebuilding team.

The Blues always believed they would take time to build a midfield that would help service McGovern, Charlie Curnow and McKay.

But after the best pre-season of his three years at Carlton McGovern battled back and hamstring issues, returned in Round 5 and then suffered a serious hamstring injury after four goals in three games.

Carlton list manager Steve Silvagni said when the club recruited him he would complement the club’s existing forwards.

“He’s got a great pair of hands and we’ve all seen how accurate he is in front of goal, so we’re excited to see what he can produce alongside our young forwards that we’ve drafted in Charlie Curnow, Harry McKay and Tom De Koning,” he said.

“After going to the draft for the past three years, we’ve been vocal about our need to start recruiting players within that 23- to 27-year age
bracket and Mitch fits that profile. At 23 years old, he’s got a lot of footy in front of him and we hope he’ll be a long-term player for our club.“

McGovern is back running and attempting to ramp up his training for a return in coming weeks.

The Blues secured Zac Williams on a five-year deal that is worth more than $800,000.

The Blues have always maintained that deal is closer to $800,000 per season.

But North Melbourne was the underbidder and was told their $800,000 offer was $100,000 short of the Carlton offer if incentives and bonuses were factored in.

Carlton has been able to front-end many of those deals given it had ample salary cap room, so while its cap is tight this year it has the capacity to bring in another player.

Players on more than $600,000 a season would include Jack Martin, Adam Saad, Patrick Cripps, Charlie Curnow, Williams, and likely best-and-fairest winner Jacob Weitering.

Sam Walsh is in the third year of a current two-year extension but as the club’s most dynamic player will surely be set for a massive extension well before his contract expires in 2023.

Carlton traded its third-round pick to Gold Coast as part of a pick swap last year but otherwise has its first and second-round picks, currently at No. 5 and 23.

Wasn't it pretending the salary cap doesn't exist that got Blues into trouble once before?
Do the maths and it's hard to see how they can possibly have any cap space at all. They have so many blokes on big coin.

 

[Usayed Givashe]

Wasn't it pretending the salary cap doesn't exist that got Blues into trouble once before?
Do the maths and it's hard to see how they can possibly have any cap space at all. They have so many blokes on big coin.

Mighty Mitch McGovern on same money as they are offering Harry.

Please baggers.

 

[Lomas]

Wasn't it pretending the salary cap doesn't exist that got Blues into trouble once before?
Do the maths and it's hard to see how they can possibly have any cap space at all. They have so many blokes on big coin.

Perhaps we need to Visylise it?

 

[disco_cowboy]

i'd take mitch mcgoven for the remainder of his contract (assuming it was a 5 year deal and he has 2 left) and pay 350k max with carlton paying the rest to have a mature body forward to sit in the forward line with larks while comben/edwards builds some strength and size.