List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread I

[Joshen]

Request for posters to stop posting salivating clips and analysis about Horne.

We're going to climb the ladder in the second half of the season. It disgusts me that this scenario (and so missing out on Horne) makes me a bit disappointed.

 

[Joshen]

A lot of this is useless info, but I find it particularly interesting for the rebuilding clubs (Adelaide, North, Hawthorn, Collingwood). Shows how we compare from an early draft perspective & how far behind Hawthorn are, who neglected the draft & traded in senior players to try and pinch another flag. Also good to see Brisbane under Noble.

The rebuild ladder: Where does your club sit?

Which club has taken the most first and second-round picks over the past six years

www.afl.com.au

First and second-round picks taken

CLUB	2015	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020	TOTAL
GWS	3	4	3	5	2	3	20
Brisbane	3	4	3	4	3	1	18
Gold Coast	3	4	1	4	4	1	17
Adelaide	2	1	1	3	4	5	16
North Melbourne	3	3	2	1	3	4	16
Carlton	4	2	3	2	2	2	15
Essendon	4	3	0	1	2	4	14
Fremantle	2	3	2	2	3	2	14
Sydney	1	2	2	2	4	3	14
Melbourne	2	0	3	2	3	3	13
Port Adelaide	1	4	0	3	4	1	13
Collingwood	1	2	1	2	1	5	12
Richmond	1	1	4	2	3	1	12
West Coast	2	2	4	4	0	0	12
Western Bulldogs	3	2	2	3	1	1	12
Geelong	0	2	3	1	3	2	11
St Kilda	1	2	3	2	0	1	9
Hawthorn	2	0	0	0	2	3	7

Given how many of them are still around (in our case), probably need to exclude 2015 and 2016 from this list.

 

[Psicosis]

Given how many of them are still around (in our case), probably need to exclude 2015 and 2016 from this list.

Considering we got Simpkin & Mckay in those drafts, I don't mind them being included. Shows how many bites of the cherry you need to get it right if your recruiters aren't on the ball.

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

A lot of this is useless info, but I find it particularly interesting for the rebuilding clubs (Adelaide, North, Hawthorn, Collingwood). Shows how we compare from an early draft perspective & how far behind Hawthorn are, who neglected the draft & traded in senior players to try and pinch another flag. Also good to see Brisbane under Noble.

The rebuild ladder: Where does your club sit?

Which club has taken the most first and second-round picks over the past six years

www.afl.com.au

First and second-round picks taken

CLUB	2015	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020	TOTAL
GWS	3	4	3	5	2	3	20
Brisbane	3	4	3	4	3	1	18
Gold Coast	3	4	1	4	4	1	17
Adelaide	2	1	1	3	4	5	16
North Melbourne	3	3	2	1	3	4	16
Carlton	4	2	3	2	2	2	15
Essendon	4	3	0	1	2	4	14
Fremantle	2	3	2	2	3	2	14
Sydney	1	2	2	2	4	3	14
Melbourne	2	0	3	2	3	3	13
Port Adelaide	1	4	0	3	4	1	13
Collingwood	1	2	1	2	1	5	12
Richmond	1	1	4	2	3	1	12
West Coast	2	2	4	4	0	0	12
Western Bulldogs	3	2	2	3	1	1	12
Geelong	0	2	3	1	3	2	11
St Kilda	1	2	3	2	0	1	9
Hawthorn	2	0	0	0	2	3	7

Hawthorn could quite easily win the next five spoons. They are in for a world of hurt.

 

[kool kangas]

Request for posters to stop posting salivating clips and analysis about Horne.

We're going to climb the ladder in the second half of the season. It disgusts me that this scenario (and so missing out on Horne) makes me a bit disappointed.

l hope we do however out of GWS, Brisbane, Suns, Bulldogs, Eagles, Bombers, Carlton , Geelong, Richmond, Sydney, Adelaide, how many can we lock in as a certain win. Even the Suns, Carlton and Adelaide l cant say wins against them are certain wins and l cant see us winning against any of the other teams. Also remember that The Hawks and Pies would have to lose every game that they play. l still think we will finish last however will be a lot more competitive.

 

[shintemaster]

Hawks the only danger imo. Collingwood will probably have a bit of a bounce with the caretaker coach.

Plus they have close to zero incentive to lose - players will be playing for their careers (either there or elsewhere). Hawks a big danger.

 

[justroyal]

Damn. AFL insider saying Cerra to Richmond

 

[Clarke is King]

Damn. AFL insider saying Cerra to Richmond

Must be so then, not like that page has ever been wrong before...

 

[Star]

Damn. AFL insider saying Cerra to Richmond

So Carlton it is then

 

[Tiberius]

Damn. AFL insider saying Cerra to Richmond

If they were to pay big for Cerra to move, and assuming they will pay big to get Bolton to stay, then surely Coleman-Jones would have to be gettable for a club with cap space.

 

[7577969923]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

That seems completely false to me.

 

[Hojuman]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

Confident young fella.

 

[Star]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

Reckon he needs to worry about getting a kick rather than being a socialite.

Incredible talent though.

 

[Star]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

Ok, fine. Next year's 1st. Harry will just have to come through the PSD

 

[shinboner magic]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

Nah we’ve got Tom Campbell

 

[Le Grille]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

Yeah nah can’t see that being true


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[AnEmptyChair]

If the Dogs said they'd give us Ugle-Hagan in exchange for effectively Jason Horne this year, would you do it?

 

[iSmack]

Request for posters to stop posting salivating clips and analysis about Horne.

We're going to climb the ladder in the second half of the season. It disgusts me that this scenario (and so missing out on Horne) makes me a bit disappointed.

The only way I see us staying at the bottom and benefiting is by Noble and co being brutal when it comes to the 'process' which by the looks of it, they are.

That way we nuke any useless wins that drive that false sense of 'progress' that we've been accustomed to by finishing mid-table for the last 10 or so years.

There is a big difference between winning and succeeding...

 

[Ligma]

If the Dogs said they'd give us Ugle-Hagan in exchange for effectively Jason Horne this year, would you do it?

No.


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[Psicosis]

If the Dogs said they'd give us Ugle-Hagan in exchange for effectively Jason Horne this year, would you do it?

Ugle-Hagan, the 19 year old who is disillusioned by not getting a game in his first 11 games?

No thanks.

 

[Devington]

SEN suggesting Jamara Ugle-Hagan disillusioned at the Dogs and may be gettable.

"disillusioned" = Hasn't taken Bevo not gifting him games well?

Been a few whispers about JUH's behaviour, Bevo's opinion of it, and JUH's reaction to that.

Rumourmongering aside... He's a teenager in his first year on an AFL list. He wouldn't be the first or last kid to assume they can have both the glamourous party lifestyle and elite sportsman's life at the same time. Either way I'd take good odds that he matures sooner or later and goes on to have a handy career at the Dogs. I honestly doubt there is any actual serious disillusionment or that he's gettable, but if he IS gettable it's probably because there's a raging inferno causing the few whisps of smoke that the media have been putting out there. Personally though I think the current media whispers are only one part truth but two parts their own wet dream.

 

[Merlin007]

No.


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ditto

 

[giantroo]

Darcy Fogarty and Lachie Murphy have re-signed at the Crows.

 

[teethmeetsflesh]

JUH worried that his misso will leave him if he doesn't get a game in the seniors soon