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List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Targets

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Burton is terrible and I’m not convinced at this stage that Duursma is gonna be anything better then average (Probably a tad harsh on Duursma, just my opinion)
They've got nothing on Chad Wingard, the 28yo who can't play forward and might one day become a full time midfielder.
 

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"Burton is terrible"
What the **** am I reading?

there’s been a group delusion around these parts for a while that Burton is good. He is not. People like the idea of him, the reality is nowhere near as impressive.
 
Burton is terrible and I’m not convinced at this stage that Duursma is gonna be anything better then average (Probably a tad harsh on Duursma, just my opinion)
You say Burton being shit as if it’s some objective truth. It’s simply your shit opinion.

Duursma has his flaws. But I’d rather a young hard working player who wants to get the best out of himself as opposed to wingard who wanted 800k to be last to training and first to leave
 
You say Burton being sh*t as if it’s some objective truth. It’s simply your sh*t opinion.

Duursma has his flaws. But I’d rather a young hard working player who wants to get the best out of himself as opposed to wingard who wanted 800k to be last to training and first to leave

its not. He is not a good AFL player. That is my opinion. Of course it’s an opinion and not an objective truth.
 
there’s been a group delusion around these parts for a while that Burton is good. He is not. People like the idea of him, the reality is nowhere near as impressive.
His B&F performance indicates that the coaches are also deluded. Or…..maybe…..just maybe……..everyone else is on the money…..and your lonely opinion……nah
 
Apparently the hawks board are suggesting we are aiming to package Ladhams and pick 16 for hawks next years first but they’re not interested at that price.

Understandable why, that could easily be a top 3 pick next year.
That could be great for us if hawks bombed

but if the hawks have a fit midfield and rally under a new coach (which has happened many times) we end up trading Ladhams and pick 16 for a pick around 10-16 (compo picks could push it back as well). That would be a very bad result for us. So great if it comes off but bad if it doesn’t.
 
there’s been a group delusion around these parts for a while that Burton is good. He is not. People like the idea of him, the reality is nowhere near as impressive.
The reality is he was 6th on our best and fairest. In a team that finished 3rd. Wingard was 5th for hawthorn, in a team that finished 14th.
 
The mods need to start dishing out uppercuts in this thread.

Ryan Burton not a good AFL player....**** me.
 

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That's not an answer.

No, it’s a question. He’s a terrible decision maker which renders his perceived “elite disposal” moot, and he’s awfully soft. As bad as I’ve seen. His also a far bigger bombscare then perennial whipping boy Riley Bonner. The overall perception of him is so ridiculously inflated it’s not funny.
 

I really hope this happens. Finlayson is only 25, has a good goalkicking record and I'm bemused at why nobody (including his own club by the sounds of things) thinks he has any trade value. If we get him, we'll be getting him for less than he should be worth.
 

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I really hope this happens. Finlayson is only 25, has a good goalkicking record and I'm bemused at why nobody (including his own club by the sounds of things) thinks he has any trade value. If we get him, we'll be getting him for less than he should be worth.
low risk, solid reward
 
Dougal Howard has established himself as St Kilda's #1 key defender and finished top 3 in their B&F. We traded him out for what became Dylan Williams (one very poor game at AFL level to date) and a second rounder.

And we threw in Ryder who even at his age is still a better ruckman than Lycett.

And we threw in an upgrade of pick 10 for pick 12, in the process giving up the chance to draft nephew of a club great Kysaiah Pickett who is now a premiership player.

I'm not sure on what planet we 'objectively won' that deal. Right now we're getting smashed.
I doubt we go for aliir if we hold on to Howard. And aliir is significantly better than Howard.

It was a good trade for St Kilda but I don't think it was all that bad for port. Williams has a lot to prove but has the ability to be a high level afl player.
 
I really hope this happens. Finlayson is only 25, has a good goalkicking record and I'm bemused at why nobody (including his own club by the sounds of things) thinks he has any trade value. If we get him, we'll be getting him for less than he should be worth.

This definitely indicates to me that Ladhams is out.
 

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