List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Targets

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philthy05

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 9, 2008
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Port Adelaide
I’ve long said I’m okay with the list management decisions we’ve made, moving wingard and Polec proved to be great decisions, and Howard made sense.

But I’ve said we make bad trades. we fold too easily. We shouldn’t have had to give essendon 2 picks for a ruck facing a ban. We shouldn’t have had to send picks back to saints to get them to give us a 1st rounder for a player they were desperately chasing. We shouldn’t have had to send picks back to north for a player they were chasing. We shouldn’t have had to send a 2nd and a 3rd rounder for an injured downhill skiing small forward who most thought was worth a 3rd rounder

we keep playing the nice guy at the trade table, as if we will get looked after going the other way.

we just saw ccj, 9 games into his career get a future early second from the spooners. Geelong are going to get something like pick 22 from freo for a player they would rather not play, north want a second rounder for xerri, who couldn’t beat a wet blanket in a ruck contest.

this idea that port has to let Ladhams go for peanuts is ridiculous, but what’s even more ridiculous is that we’ve fostered this treatment by being the “nice guys”
 

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longdonkey

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Jul 27, 2011
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Possibly due to needing to win games in that period and they saw Ladhams as more of a contributor during this season.

Or, showcasing Ladhams more to offload him at the end of this season.

May or may not be the above reason. Depends how likely they thought Ladhams was going for. Appears like Port have been pretty keen to let him go for quite some time but maybe are happy with how Hayes was tracking in the SANFL and just wanted to keep winning games with a more proven performer as the no.1 ruck + forward option through that period.
OK I'm going to predict what happens next year. Start the year with Lycett in ruck with Finalyson back up. Then they work out that they can't play Hayes as a forward. So Hayes plays the entire year in the SANFL and requests a trade at the end of 2022. They trade him out in 2022 and then look for a new lead ruck at the end of 2023 after Hinkley complains he doesn't have the rucks he needs to get a Premiership.
 

philthy05

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 9, 2008
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One goal in the SANFL this year will tell you what you need to know.
I think you’ve brought this up before, and I said then that I watched the magpies closely

hayes led our ruck unit 1 out and was never rested in the forward line. If he was on the ground he was in ruck.

never played 1min as a kf.

And as a ruck he tends to station himself between the arcs playing the kick down the line, which ge is great at and it worked very well for us having him there to gobble up those long kicks.
 

Us against the rest

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Sep 26, 2012
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Cornes can go suck a bag, he seems to think Ladhams is worth around their 31, saying that he would be disappointed if the club held him to his contract, seeing they started the ball rolling.
 

Schulzenfest

TheBrownDog
Feb 23, 2008
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I’ve long said I’m okay with the list management decisions we’ve made, moving wingard and Polec proved to be great decisions, and Howard made sense.

But I’ve said we make bad trades. we fold too easily. We shouldn’t have had to give essendon 2 picks for a ruck facing a ban. We shouldn’t have had to send picks back to saints to get them to give us a 1st rounder for a player they were desperately chasing. We shouldn’t have had to send picks back to north for a player they were chasing. We shouldn’t have had to send a 2nd and a 3rd rounder for an injured downhill skiing small forward who most thought was worth a 3rd rounder

we keep playing the nice guy at the trade table, as if we will get looked after going the other way.

we just saw ccj, 9 games into his career get a future early second from the spooners. Geelong are going to get something like pick 22 from freo for a player they would rather not play, north want a second rounder for xerri, who couldn’t beat a wet blanket in a ruck contest.

this idea that port has to let Ladhams go for peanuts is ridiculous, but what’s even more ridiculous is that we’ve fostered this treatment by being the “nice guys”
We've fostered this treatment by repeatedly telling contracted players that we're happy for them to try their luck on the open market. Once you put that idea in their head, they're liable to want out, and whichever club wants them knows that you weren't all that fussed whether you kept them or not. We did it to Wingard, we did it to Howard, and now we're doing it to Ladhams.
 

240volt

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Jul 23, 2007
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Just about had a gut full of Kane Cornes he’s starting to sound to much like his old man.
 

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jdeezy

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Jul 6, 2013
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When does Fox's trade broadcast start? I assume we've already capitulated on a trade and the AFL are just waiting on it to be time to broadcast it.
 

Granny Duurs is Lovely

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Jun 11, 2019
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I’ve long said I’m okay with the list management decisions we’ve made, moving wingard and Polec proved to be great decisions, and Howard made sense.

But I’ve said we make bad trades. we fold too easily. We shouldn’t have had to give essendon 2 picks for a ruck facing a ban. We shouldn’t have had to send picks back to saints to get them to give us a 1st rounder for a player they were desperately chasing. We shouldn’t have had to send picks back to north for a player they were chasing. We shouldn’t have had to send a 2nd and a 3rd rounder for an injured downhill skiing small forward who most thought was worth a 3rd rounder

we keep playing the nice guy at the trade table, as if we will get looked after going the other way.

we just saw ccj, 9 games into his career get a future early second from the spooners. Geelong are going to get something like pick 22 from freo for a player they would rather not play, north want a second rounder for xerri, who couldn’t beat a wet blanket in a ruck contest.

this idea that port has to let Ladhams go for peanuts is ridiculous, but what’s even more ridiculous is that we’ve fostered this treatment by being the “nice guys”
So you complains about giving picks back to get an earlier pick, but then ignore North giving back an earlier pick to get an earlier pick for CCJ?

Come on mate.
 

Holden Hillbilly

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DONE DEALS | The ruck merry-go-round is SPINNING! Darcy Fort is a Lion. Jon Ceglar is a Cat. Max Lynch is a Hawk.
 

PowerBaz

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Jun 13, 2014
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He treads water in the same pool of mediocrity as his father & Kenneth.


I rang up (first time I ever rang radio) because he was banging on about how how Collingwood should be going after Clarko, just after he resigned...

I said how about Port go after him for next year - he laughed and thought I was from another planet, 'But Kenny has you playing finals' dismissed me and went on his way.....
 

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