List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Targets

[Duckimus Prime]

Get annoyed by people saying we should have played Hayes. He wasn't ready. Another preseason and he will be. His B&F indicates he was close. But I don't see him working in tandem with Lycett- it will be one or the other.

This is actually a big potential issue with losing Ladhams. With Ladhams in our squad we could debut Hayes, knowing that we've got another quality ruck in the side to help him get his feet at the higher level. We're going to be a horribly unbalanced side if we try running out with both Hayes and Lycett in the line up.

 

[shewho]

This is actually a big potential issue with losing Ladhams. With Ladhams in our squad we could debut Hayes, knowing that we've got another quality ruck in the side to help him get his feet at the higher level. We're going to be a horribly unbalanced side if we try running out with both Hayes and Lycett in the line up.

Not really. If Hayes is getting beaten in ruck, switching Ladhams in won’t help the situation.

We can maybe find an occasion for Hayes to debut with Lycett but I suspect very quickly, Hayes will play as the only ruck.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Nah not a chance.

Maybe 1 of the six needs to be out, thats it at most.

Hayes and Lycett ruck combo. MG/Finlayson kpfs. Todd link up man who can float forward.

We didn't even keept the three tall forwards + Ladhams + Lycett once the small forwards were all available.
There's no way we're going to replace Ladham's mobility with Hayes and keep the same tall forward profile.

We'll play 1 of Lycett/Hayes
And 3 of Gerogiades, Dixon, Finlayson and Marshall.

 

[Ports1870]

We didn't even keept the three tall forwards + Ladhams + Lycett once the small forwards were all available.
There's no way we're going to replace Ladham's mobility with Hayes and keep the same tall forward profile.

We'll play 1 of Lycett/Hayes
And 3 of Gerogiades, Dixon, Finlayson and Marshall.

Could see us playing all four of Georgiades, Dixon, Finlayson, Marshall

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Not really. If Hayes is getting beaten in ruck, switching Ladhams in won’t help the situation.

We can maybe find an occasion for Hayes to debut with Lycett but I suspect very quickly, Hayes will play as the only ruck.

Yes it would, because Ladhams will force the opposition to have to run with their number 1 ruck longer, which means Hayes would get to work into the game against either the backup or a more tired opponent.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Could see us playing all four of Georgiades, Dixon, Finlayson, Marshall

With Hayes and Lycett in the side too? As was originally suggested.

 

[Adz2332]

For me
Dixon and MG are locks round 1

Marshall or Finlayson?
Lycett or Hayes?

could Hayes and Lycett play together?
Try Hayes in the Ladhams role? Can he clunk a mark?

 

[RossFC]

could Hayes and Lycett play together?

Hayes and Lycett in the same side will not work.

 

[Adz2332]

Hayes and Lycett in the same side will not work.

makes it even stranger that ladhams is gone....
No way Hayes sticks around another year in the 2s

 

[OneGreatClub]

Davies: We are backing in improvement from within

Port Adelaide closed the trade period with an improved position in the first round of next month's AFL national draft and with a new forward to boost scoring power. There are still critical list-management decisions to be made.

www.portadelaidefc.com.au

 

[OneGreatClub]

makes it even stranger that ladhams is gone....
No way Hayes sticks around another year in the 2s

Davies reckons Sam will be playing in the AFL side next year

 

[Schulzenfest]

If Hayes and Lycett won't work, drop Lycett.

 

[Spadge]

Sydney's 3rd rounder could range anywhere from 37 (spoon) to 54 (flag) so most likely in the 46-50 range BEFORE academy/FS selections so we will most likely have a pick in the low-mid 50s in next years draft

let that sink in

 

[Tibbs]

We need Book fit and in form, he's such a good reader of the play.

Words cant describe how important he is to the team!

 

[EskimoPAFC]

We didn't even keept the three tall forwards + Ladhams + Lycett once the small forwards were all available.
There's no way we're going to replace Ladham's mobility with Hayes and keep the same tall forward profile.

We'll play 1 of Lycett/Hayes
And 3 of Gerogiades, Dixon, Finlayson and Marshall.

Either way, we're certainly playing more than 3.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Words cant describe how important he is to the team!

Yep, you can't just judge him by his smother

 

[Tibbs]

Even if we absolutely nail pick 12, and Ladhams never plays a game and is the driving force behind a scandal that costs Sydney several first round draft picks, this was a sh*t trade.

I said when we traded Wingard that trading Wingard wasn't the worst part, it was trashing his reputation, making it very clear we want him out, and subsequently lowering his value. We've done exactly the same again here.

El_Scorcho wins first prize in the Most Head-Spinning Post category.

So we nail pick 12 who become a superstar
Ladhams never plays another game for Sydney
He single-handedly trashes Sydney's culture

Yet Port, who identified this, is to blame & loses on the trade?

I have a headache!

 

[Tibbs]

Putting my Janus hat on:

CD putting the 'first rounder' price tag on Ladhams may have been a tactic to set the price high to cull interest from other clubs. Anchor the high price and then negotiate down if you have to.

He knew Sydney showed interest last year and that we could deal with them. They had pick 12 as well as Dawson wanting to come to SA. They may have been the target all along.


Taking my Janus hat off:

As you said, we f’ed it.

Liked for the use of "Janus hat" ... I am going straight out to get me one of these babies!



*** PS: This is actually a real thing!!

 

[snozulu]

P

We won't delist another 5 players. Don't have enugh picks to accommodate the roster spaces for them this year.

So we may be playing a couple of list spots short - or going for several rookie picks instead of main list picks.
To save money.

Cos we've gone from having a gigantic war chest that enabled us to offer Merrett a bong of a deal for 2 months ago, then delisting Hammer and Rocky on big coin, and miraculously in the space of no time at all, lost the entire kaboodle of cash we had!

Doesn't pass the pub test IMHO.

Will our supreme commanders ever tell us the real reasons?

Pay out hinkley's 6 months next year

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The guys from HPN Footy who developed the PAV, Cody Atkinson and Sean Lawson have done this sort of analysis for each trade (inc Finlayson). Not every trade has a graph but every trade has the Value In for both sides table

Who won and who lost in the AFL trade period

Cody Atkinson and Sean Lawson analyse the key deals, as the AFL trade period wraps up for another year.

www.abc.net.au

The trade sees a slight switch of first-round draft of a similar value range, and leaves Ladhams balanced against the Swans' future third.

Even if they drop after a breakthrough year, Ladhams is likely to slightly outperform the balance of picks.

Verdict
Pretty fair trade for an appealing player, even with the first-round swap.

 

[Janus]

Sydney's third rounder replaces the one we gave up for Finlayson and allows us to trade our first round pick next year to acquire Lukosius without having to * around looking for a deal that gets us a third.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Sydney's third rounder replaces the one we gave up for Finlayson and allows us to trade our first round pick next year to acquire Lukosius without having to fu** around looking for a deal that gets us a third.

Doesn't that rule only apply when you are trading futures?

 

[JimmyBC]

Ah yes the underwhelming Lukosius & total footballering.

 

[Adz2332]

Doesn't that rule only apply when you are trading futures?

2022 and 2023 for luko?

 

[Enviable Tradition]

2022 and 2023 for luko?

Yes but us trading our 2022 1st doesn't require us to have a 2022 3rd if we are trading it next year as far as I am aware