List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
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Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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[St Neil]

Just heard a rumour that there has been a bit of a fracas up on the gold coast between Bing and a few players about his future.
They want him to commit to a future at the suns but he has told them that he doesn't want to delve to far into the future and just take it contract by contract. Apparantly his stance had put a few noses out of joint up there and caused friction among the group.

I know I’m late to the party commenting about this, but if it’s true then it is really dumb. Bing is entitled to consider his future whenever he is ready, especially with 2 years remaining on his contract.

And the lad did commit to the Suns when they were on their knees. That shouldn’t be forgotten. It had a domino effect of triggering others to re-sign with the club.

It’s a bit rich if he is being needled to recommit now. The lad deserves better than that. I hope his Manager is all over it (if it’s true).

 

[Jay Beast]

Just heard a rumour that there has been a bit of a fracas up on the gold coast between Bing and a few players about his future.
They want him to commit to a future at the suns but he has told them that he doesn't want to delve to far into the future and just take it contract by contract. Apparantly his stance had put a few noses out of joint up there and caused friction among the group.

Wait til the media gets on board- they will hound him every week.
Already feel sorry for him.

 

[KingsRansom]

Wait til the media gets on board- they will hound him every week.
Already feel sorry for him.

Lucky he plays for GC. The papers wouldn't even know what AFL is up there, let alone players lol

 

[St Neil]

Lucky he plays for GC. The papers wouldn't even know what AFL is up there, let alone players lol

When they start winning they will become the flavour of the month.

More likely to be in 2022 than 2021.

 

[ScrappyDo]

When they start winning they will become the flavour of the month.

More likely to be in 2022 than 2021.

RED JESUS

 

[CaptainRisky]

Just heard a rumour that there has been a bit of a fracas up on the gold coast between Bing and a few players about his future.
They want him to commit to a future at the suns but he has told them that he doesn't want to delve to far into the future and just take it contract by contract. Apparantly his stance had put a few noses out of joint up there and caused friction among the group.

I find that pretty hard to believe , he is contracted until the end of 2022 just like a lot of their good young kids . The only one i could see who is contracted until the end of 2023 is Rowell so no idea who these so called players are with their noses out of joint .

 

[CaptainRisky]

Plenty of time for a new oracle to emerge.

I think he is already in the House

 

[ScrappyDo]

Just realised that during this year's trade period, there will be no flamingos bookmarking things, nexus people claiming ITK status by going back as far as time itself and being best mates with the first captain of the club and every champion since. No sCoops pestering the likes of Mikka, stavro or MG for inside gossip of what's going to happen....then posting on his own site claiming to be the first to know....

What a time to be alive!!

You just wait and see how friggn boring it will be without that bag of assorted nuts to keep the masses occupied. The whole Saints BF board will have nothing else to resort to besides ITK bashing and (more) petty squabbling.
Although, a top 4 finish will see this place turn to a gooey love fest for the whole of the off season..

 

[hayes]

There’s never a shortage of ITK’s during trade period. They pop up from everywhere then disappear for another 12 months.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Gawn off the table.

Reilly O'Brien

43

Reilly O'brien

Age

30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

5star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

14.4

3star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

24.8

5star

it is!

 

[stavro#4]

Gawn off the table.

Reilly O'Brien it is!

Or the draft...

Not a huge fan of splashing coin on a superstar ruck.

Alternatively, smack up forward Marshall primary ruck post Ryder for 12 months?

 

[bird_man]

A young key defender to pair with Howard should be our number one priority.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

A young key defender to pair with Howard should be our number one priority.

Clavarino?
Tall defenders take time.

 

[Ekomaira]

Clavarino?
Tall defenders take time.

I've lost hope for Clav tbh. It's not based on anything other than he just doesn't get talked up. Hope I'm wrong though

 

[ScrappyDo]

A young key defender to pair with Howard should be our number one priority.

Payne or the Adelaide guy?

 

[bird_man]

Clavarino?
Tall defenders take time.

I understand they take time but I wouldn't be pinning all our hopes on Clav

 

[triggering bro]

Looking at our list it is incredibly balanced. We have 30 players in the 21-28 bracket meaning our age spread will allow us to remain competitive for some time. Older recruits such as Paddy, Frawley & Mckernan, & Robbo (ret), Hanneberry, Geary & Carlisle bring our age up. But most are/will be gone in 12-24 months.

Our midfield is set for over a decade with the age spread covering a broad demographic. Our only short term list gaps are a ruckman to compliment Marshall & a tall defender to replace Carlisle & Frawley. I think a wise strategy is replacing the cap spent on Carlisle, Frawley, Geary, Hanners, etc with Bing (priority #1) & looking for a ruckman in the 24-27 age bracket. Then continue to hit the draft. No need to make any drastic list changes, it’s all about making minor adjustments.

 

[Ducky Tie]

I understand they take time but I wouldn't be pinning all our hopes on Clav

Agreed. Some players do debut late, but the success rate would be pretty low for someone who has been on a list this long, without a debut.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Payne or the Adelaide guy?

Payne for me

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Payne for me

Just on Payne, and I’m not specifically asking you Risky, but has our club ever actually been linked to him?

I know a lot of posters on here like him, however is there anything to suggest he’s even in our thinking? [emoji848]

 

[CaptainRisky]

Just on Payne, and I’m not specifically asking you Risky, but has our club ever actually been linked to him?

I know a lot of posters on here like him, however is there anything to suggest he’s even in our thinking? [emoji848]

I like most would not have any idea if the club even know of him , All i know is that we are going to need another key back next year or at worst 2023 unless they think Battle can be that man
Question for everyone , Can Battle end up our other key back with Dougs or is he a bit short ?

 

[Stewart66]

Payne for me

Doubt he leaves ....McAsey , Brander ...like Clavarino a lot but just when the door opens he injures himself.

We were definitely into Brander & Mihocek last trade period.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Doubt he leaves ....McAsey , Brander ...like Clavarino a lot but just when the door opens he injures himself.

We were definitely into Brander.

The Adelaide people don't rate McAsey at all , Lets hope Oscar can get it happening , god knows they have stuck with him , he looked like a young weitering when we drafted him and its all gone pear shaped since

 

[Armoooo]

This is a line-up that could potentially see us over the next 5+ years. These are the blokes who I believe will have the ability to be able to put together multiple finals campaigns

FB:	C.Wilkie	----------	B.Paton
HB:	N.Coffield	D.Howard	J.Sinclair
C:	B.Hill	H.Clark	----------
HF:	J.Billings	J.Battle	J.Higgins
FF:	D.Butler	M.King	T.Membrey
R:	----------	J.Steele	J.Gresham
I/C:	R.Marshall	B.Crouch

We are commenting this group with different types of players:

Senior Players Could Be Improved Upon: Z.Jones; Ross; Hannebery; Lonie; Geary; Long; Webster
Short-Term Fixes: Ryder; Frawley/Carlsile
Short Term Break-Glass Options: Hunter; McKernan; Wood
Likely Developing Types: Bytel; Highmore; Allison; Byrnes; Connolly


We also have some dead-weight which can be trimmed: Dunstan; Roberton; Kent; McKenzie; Joyce; Alabakis; Clavarino; McKenzie

We are in a fortunate position as the only two issues requiring immediate attention are another key defender and ruck. These are two positions that are usually able to be sourced relatively cheaply. We also have the great luxury of being able to play Battle and Marshall in those positions if we can't find a suitable option.

There is nothing realistic on the free agent table that suits us in my.opinion.

Best case scenario for us from what I can see at the moment:
- Highmore, Bytel, Sinclair and Lonie have breakout years ala Coff/Paton/Marshall/Wilkie the last couple years.
- Ross gets back to his best
- Ryder is able to play another year
- Pick up a promising key back from another club (Payne / McAsey) with the old future second routine
- Pick up best available with first round pick
- Make a big play at a quality ruck in 2022 offseason.

 

[triggering bro]

As unlikely as he is to leave Adelaide, Tom Dodee (OOC) should be a priority target.