List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
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Traded;
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Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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[Veer Right]

You may be right in the short term but if all 3 stay and are mainstays in the team we won't come close to a flag in the long run.

I'd rather we try Bytel more in the guts and give him the license to try and improve as a footballer instead of picking the old mainstays so we can feel confident in getting Dunstan's 25 touches either dug out of a pack admittedly well or blasted on the boot aimlessly

We tried Bytel in the guts and he went missing. More then once he's done next to SFA. Dunstan actually wins the ball and tackles properly against bigger bodies and more importantly stays consistent. These two are not even on the same page, one may very well end up delisted down the road while the other has currency at pretty much every club in the AFL.

Where are we weak gameday? Back six recently has gone on a stretch keeping teams to the lowest scores in the league which is impressive considering how often we chop and change back there. Forward line is led by a quality 35 gamer and the players around him are also good quality. It's our midfield that keeps letting us down as we have no depth, no quality outside Steele and we are too small and slow as well.

If our only answer to rectify things next year is to remove Dunstan and put Bytel there, we can expect to finish a solid bottom six. Steele cannot do it on his own.

 

[Yawkey way]

Matt crouch is better and gettable

He didn’t play a game this year that’s the big red flag, Hannebery must have the alarm bells ringing on crouch. I guess if your doctors clear him it looks like a no brainer dunstan for crouch but things are never that easy.

The first thought is how does this impact what we’ll get as compensation, the AFL make it up as they go along I’d want some assurances on that score.

 

[Veer Right]

This is one of the biggest myths on this board.

Every single premiership team has players a lot worse than Billings and Ross in them. A lot worse.

Every single premiership team has their leaders firing on all cylinders which would put a line through those three.

 

[stavro#4]

He didn’t play a game this year that’s the big red flag, Hannebery must have the alarm bells ringing on crouch. I guess if your doctors clear him it looks like a no brainer dunstan for crouch but things are never that easy.

The first thought is how does this impact what we’ll get as compensation, the AFL make it up as they go along I’d want some assurances on that score.

Obviously due diligence etc would need to happen.

the point was more that you can replace these guys.

 

[Grav]

So if Seb & Dunstan leave we give more midfield time Byrnes & Bytel with the latter helping Crouch do the grunt work, which will free up Steele do the precise things getting the pill to the outside runners in Byrnes and Jones.
We still have a few that can rotate through the guts, take a midfielder in the draft to nurture & hopefully find a ready made beast for the backline, don’t think we are to far away from contending in all seriousness.

 

[stavro#4]

 

[Klaatu]

Keep playing Bytel even if his numbers are low so what short term pain for a 10 year midfielder.

 

[Enclosed_Animal]

Just on Ross. Something has happened. That was a done deal according to Lethers and on a reduced deal - said before the first bounce against Geelong earlier in the year.

Perhaps somebody at the club took a look at where the ball goes when he disposes of it?

 

[Bill Mohr]

Bytel listed as 189cm and 84kg. Danger 189cm 92kg on afl app. With stoppages I think aside from speed it's smarts to read where the ball is going

Ross ended up doing a good job on Kelly, but agree he doesn't seem ideal for that role. Mainly for me because he lacks of aggression

Danger is an aggressive midfielder and gets away with a bit of stuff, he does have power and speed off the mark. Ross has done some good tagging roles but I am not convinced that he can tag all the good ones but there is no other player suited for that role in the current team.

 

[ScrappyDo]

ESPN has him right up the top end of the power ratings. His season has been outstanding and he'll get taken in the 20s to 30s I reckon. A few teams will be wondering how he didn't get picked up in the midseason draft. Maybe he put 2 year contract terms up or something.

We should have taken him ,,,,,, feck

This guy was let go once already and despite plenty of publicly around him 18 clubs passed in the MSD.
There'll be a reason for it..

 

[AirWinmar]

Danger is an aggressive midfielder and gets away with a bit of stuff, he does have power and speed off the mark. Ross has done some good tagging roles but I am not convinced that he can tag all the good ones but there is no other player suited for that role in the current team.

Probably Steele is, but we wouldn't want to take him away from his game

 

[Bill Mohr]

Sydney are super tight there are players torrid there. Not sure about Melican, I've never really noticed him.

He has not played much this year. In and out of the swans side, he did play a couple of good games but dropped off. I think McCartin took his spot at CHB.

 

[MightySaint]

Could care less if all of Ross, Billings, Dunstan leave. I've seen this movie before, it's boring as batshit at this point. Even if their replacements are worse, at least I'll have some variety in my life.

 

[Bill Mohr]

So if Seb & Dunstan leave we give more midfield time Byrnes & Bytel with the latter helping Crouch do the grunt work, which will free up Steele do the precise things getting the pill to the outside runners in Byrnes and Jones.
We still have a few that can rotate through the guts, take a midfielder in the draft to nurture & hopefully find a ready made beast for the backline, don’t think we are to far away from contending in all seriousness.

I hope you dont mean contending for the flag. We are a fair bit off that, if we can get into the 8 for a couple of years running and win a game or two, then we can pick up 1 or 2 top players and our younger guys come on then is the time to start talking top 4 which basically means win 16 games- thats a lot

 

[ScrappyDo]

After 13 seasons and three clubs, it's the end of the road for journeyman

St Kilda's Shaun McKernan has told teammates his playing days are over

www.afl.com.au

"Co-captain Jarryn Geary is closing in on a fresh one-year deal."



Love gears but… it's time to move on, make him a coach if we need his leadership around the club.

You could only imagine this is exactly what they're doing.
The club obviously rate the shit out of him so having him at Sandy when we have a bunch of new kids might be a cracking good move.
So long as he's no longer co-captain or in the first 25.

 

[Joffaboy]

This is one of the biggest myths on this board.

Every single premiership team has players a lot worse than Billings and Ross in them. A lot worse.

Has proven to be absolute fact so far. So don't know why you would call it a myth. What is myth is that we will win a flag with them in the team. Facts state it wont be so.

 

[kernelT]

I hope you dont mean contending for the flag. We are a fair bit off that, if we can get into the 8 for a couple of years running and win a game or two, then we can pick up 1 or 2 top players and our younger guys come on then is the time to start talking top 4 which basically means win 16 games- thats a lot

Haven't you got a Carlton board to pester?

 

[Joffaboy]

So apparently now Bytel after less than 12 games comes up short and is not AFL quality but Dunstan after 7 years has four good games and four average ones and he is a keeper.

Wowzer no wonder this club is in a mess with analysis like that.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Haven't you got a Carlton board to pester?

hey TOK, you still squibbing your way around? No balls...

 

[Joffaboy]

Haven't you got a Carlton board to pester?

Why would you say that?

 

[BrutThough]

Has proven to be absolute fact so far. So don't know why you would call it a myth. What is myth is that we will win a flag with them in the team. Facts state it wont be so.

 

[Joffaboy]

Not hard to work out matey. To present day, how many flags have we won with them in the team? You Statement is the myth unless you can see into the future.

 

[Bill Mohr]

So apparently now Bytel after less than 12 games comes up short and is not AFL quality but Dunstan after 7 years has four good games and four average ones and he is a keeper.

Wowzer no wonder this club is in a mess with analysis like that.

Bytel has only played 3 games since Mid May so I have no clue as to what is happening there. He was injured at one stage.

 

[BrutThough]

Not hard to work out matey. To present day, how many flags have we won with them in the team? You Statement is the myth unless you can see into the future.

The myth is that you can't win a flag with players the quality of Ross or Billings in the team. Thats complete and utter bullshit.

Most premiership sides has players a lot worse than those 2 in them. Whoever wins the premiership this year will have players a lot worse than them in it.

 

[CaptainRisky]

After 13 seasons and three clubs, it's the end of the road for journeyman

St Kilda's Shaun McKernan has told teammates his playing days are over

www.afl.com.au

"Co-captain Jarryn Geary is closing in on a fresh one-year deal."



Love gears but… it's time to move on, make him a coach if we need his leadership around the club.

He cant be Co Captain next year then as it was proven no matter how bad he was going they wouldn't drop him