List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

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ScrappyDo

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Ratts will turn it around,
Would love Soloman & Leppitch around him
I think this is the key. Dimma was a spud until they cleaned the assists out.

I think the best answer is to fill the ranks with the best possible so that we have internal options when Ratts' contract finishes.
Right now there's not a one of them l want as the senior and I'd still rather Ratts sees success at StKilda.
 

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saintsrfreak

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Gotta wonder why the hell skrob is the mid coach
Brendon Lade is probably a really nice guy, and the players apparently like him, but I don't see anything close to a good forward structure from us this year.

At Port and Richmond he worked with the ruckmen, why is he our forwards coach?
 

Kildonan

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Might be a good time to rethink continually recruiting mature aged players and apply our recruiters' skills to finding youth through the draft process.
We keep throwing away next years star recruits for this years' shiny mature aged player. Our age profile is starting to accumulate at the upper end again ala Ross Lyon era. Concentrate on kids. Rotate this process once we have a better age profile then we can top up on available mature aged players again.
 

Kildonan

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Player List 2021
Code:
    Name                 2020 Tot Age Birth Date Height Weight   Origin
  18 Ryder, Patrick        14 257 32 13 Mar 1988 197cm  94kg East Fremantle / Essendon / Port Adelaide
  14 Geary, Jarryn         16 204 32 23 Jun 1988 182cm  82kg Bendigo Pioneers
  24 Frawley, James        14 239 32 20 Sep 1988 193cm  96kg North Ballarat / Melbourne / Hawthorn
  27 McKernan, Shaun        9  87 30 01 Sep 1990 196cm 100kg Calder Cannons / Essendon
  10 Hannebery, Daniel      8 221 29 24 Feb 1991 181cm  80kg Oakleigh Chargers / Sydney
  17 Roberton, Dylan        1 129 29 21 Jun 1991 194cm  91kg Dandenong Stingrays / Fremantle
   2 Carlisle, Jake        13 147 29 01 Oct 1991 201cm 104kg Craigieburn / EssendonFC
  41 Hunter, Paul           0   0 28 09 Feb 1993 200cm 104kg Redland / Adelaide
   6 Ross, Sebastian       16 140 27 07 May 1993 188cm  88kg North Ballarat Rebels
  29 Webster, Jimmy         0  93 27 28 Jun 1993 188cm  83kg Glenorchy
   8 Hill, Bradley         19 168 27 09 Jul 1993 179cm  79kg West Perth / Hawthorn / Fremantle
   5 Crouch, Brad          12  95 26 14 Jan 1994 186cm  85kg North Ballarat Rebels / Adelaide
  25 Kent, Dean            15  91 26 25 Feb 1994 180cm  85kg Perth WAFL / Melbourne
  28 Membrey, Tim          19 110 26 26 May 1994 188cm  89kg Gippsland / Sydney
   7 Dunstan, Luke          1 104 25 29 Jan 1995 185cm  84kg Woodville-West Torrens
  35 Sinclair, Jack        12  98 25 12 Feb 1995 180cm  82kg Oakleigh Chargers
   3 Jones, Zak            16 106 25 15 Mar 1995 181cm  80kg Dandenong Stingrays / Sydney
  15 Billings, Jack        19 126 25 18 Aug 1995 184cm  81kg Oakleigh Chargers
  19 Marshall, Rowan       19  52 25 24 Nov 1995 201cm 104kg North Ballarat Rebels
   9 Steele, Jack          19  97 25 13 Dec 1995 187cm  90kg ACT Rams / GWS
  44 Wilkie, Callum (R)    19  41 24 10 Mar 1996 191cm  87kg North Adelaide
  20 Howard, Dougal        19  64 24 25 Mar 1996 199cm  92kg Murray Bushrangers / Port Adelaide
  36 McKenzie, Daniel       0  49 24 17 May 1996 184cm  83kg Oakleigh Chargers
  16 Butler, Dan           19  64 24 03 Jun 1996 182cm  80kg North Ballarat Rebels / Richmond
  13 Lonie, Jack           13  76 24 13 Aug 1996 174cm  71kg Dandenong Stingrays
  39 Joyce, Darragh (R)     0   5 23 23 Apr 1997 195cm  90kg Ireland
  45 Alabakis, Samuel (R)   0   0 23 02 May 1997 211cm 105kg Perth Wildcats / ULM Warhawks
  21 Long, Ben             15  45 23 21 Aug 1997 182cm  74kg Footscray VFL
   4 Gresham, Jade         11  92 23 24 Aug 1997 177cm  79kg Northern Knights
  34 Highmore, Tom          0   0 22 24 Feb 1998 192cm  89kg Canberra Demons / South Adelaide
  26 Battle, Josh          14  40 22 18 Sep 1998 193cm  92kg Dandenong Stingrays
  33 Paton, Ben            17  35 22 19 Oct 1998 186cm  77kg Murray Bushrangers
   1 Coffield, Nicholas    15  36 21 19 Mar 1999 191cm  82kg Northern Knights
  22 Higgins, Jack         10  43 21 19 Mar 1999 177cm  78kg Oakleigh Chargers / Richmond
  11 Clark, Hunter         18  47 21 26 Mar 1999 186cm  79kg Dandenong Stingrays
  38 Clavarino, Oscar (R)   0   0 21 23 Oct 1999 197cm  89kg Dandenong Stingrays
  23 Bytel, Jack            3   3 20 14 Mar 2000 189cm  78kg Calder Cannons
  12 King, Maxwell         18  18 20 07 Jul 2000 202cm  90kg Sandringham Dragons
  31 Byrnes, Ryan           1   1 19 03 May 2001 181cm  80kg Sandringham Dragons
  37 Connolly, Leo          0   0 19 07 Aug 2001 181cm  74kg Gippsland Power
  30 Allison, Matthew       0   0 18 29 Jan 2002 194cm  81kg Calder Cannons
Our U21 yo cohort consists of 4 players which will drop to 3 players when Winx has his 21st in July
EVERY other club has more youth
 
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THE_GUN

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I think this is the key. Dimma was a spud until they cleaned the assists out.

I think the best answer is to fill the ranks with the best possible so that we have internal options when Ratts' contract finishes.
Right now there's not a one of them l want as the senior and I'd still rather Ratts sees success at StKilda.
Sorry for the intrusion as i was reading along quietly until i came across this post regarding 'spud assistants'
The main spud assistant we had was Brendon Lade which Dimma had with him from the start

was the best thing that happened that cleanout and the end of Lade
 

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bird_man

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finally someone apart from me has finally said it!!!

what gives hammil so much free reign. the guy was in charge of our forwards when we struggled to score under richo. gets moved back and our defences goes to sh*te.

is he being groomed to be a senior coach of our club someday or something? is there something we are missing here?
I've been saying this for 18 months actually.

Said when we appointed Ratts it was the perfect opportunity to get some new blood in, couldn't understand what Hammil had done to get a promotion.

There was an argument that it might have been hard to find quality assistants but last off season was the perfect opportunity.
 

prophetic1

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amazing the defence you can start to put up to questioning when you win some flags:

can you imagine if ratts had won a flag last year, brad hills form goes to sh*t and he can just say "Well he's playing to our system and in doing so we win a flag... what he gets paid is how much we value him... so tata"
Yeah Yeah your right on but sh*t we could do with a bit of that attitude ....i dont think he said pleasing once or even hindsight or anything else i didnt like but as you say ...success gives a lot of latitude!
 

El_Duderino

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amazing the defence you can start to put up to questioning when you win some flags:

can you imagine if ratts had won a flag last year, brad hills form goes to sh*t and he can just say "Well he's playing to our system and in doing so we win a flag... what he gets paid is how much we value him... so tata"
That’s awesome. I’m probably by myself in this opinion but I really like Dimma as coach. He’s worked his arse off to get these boys playing the cohesive and competitive brand of footy that has them a current power in the league. A perfect example of how a good coach and a good team can become great by sticking to a solid system.
 

prophetic1

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That’s awesome. I’m probably by myself in this opinion but I really like Dimma as coach. He’s worked his arse off to get these boys playing the cohesive and competitive brand of footy that has them a current power in the league. A perfect example of how a good coach and a good team can become great by sticking to a solid system.
I hope you are being serious and not in some way being facetious because I think he's brilliant he seems to balance the dark and the light the passion and the poise extremely well!
 

El_Duderino

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I hope you are being serious and not in some way being facetious because I think he's brilliant he seems to balance the dark and the light the passion and the poise extremely well!
Of course I’m serious. I wouldn’t go to that much trouble if I was being facetious believe me. I just like the way he presents himself in the media.
 

Diehard Saint

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Might be a good time to rethink continually recruiting mature aged players and apply our recruiters' skills to finding youth through the draft process.
We keep throwing away next years star recruits for this years' shiny mature aged player. Our age profile is starting to accumulate at the upper end again ala Ross Lyon era. Concentrate on kids. Rotate this process once we have a better age profile then we can top up on available mature aged players again.
Pretty sure that’s what Lethlean was getting at in his interview the other day.
Draft young players at both the mid season and end of year drafts. Surely we only go after free agents now.
 

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