List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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List & Contract Status

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[bergholt]

If Bing re-signs at GC next year would we consider directing that money towards Brodie Grundy? Currently 27 and contracted until 2027. Pies maybe willing to trade him cheaply given their reported salary cap issues and the fact that they wont be contending for a few years

Isn't he on almost a million a year? Can't imagine we could squeeze him in unless Collingwood paid a lot of his wage.

 

[Senor Ding Dong]

Would not have thought so, he is a marquee player and you build your side around players like that.

so was Brendan Goddard....

 

[bergholt]

We will see what happens. Most posters agree we should get a decent ruckman. Better than what back up we have now.

Oh I agree, would love to have prime Dean Cox and prime Spida Everitt playing in the twos. I just don't think it's likely to happen.

Anyone good will go to a club where they can be first or second in line, not a club where they'll be likely to play 10 games or so as third-string. That's a role for an ageing journeyman, a good VFL trier, or a developing youngster.

 

[AirWinmar]

Havent we learnt our lesson about stop gap ruckmen?

I hope we don't hear the term 'break in case of emergency' next year - lol

At 23 Chol will still be getting better. Could very well be a very good consistent player by the time his is 25/26 and can fill in better the Hunter or Smack did this year. Wonder if he could play chb?

It's really an ideal situation - more than capable of coming in and playing a role well. Probably not good enough to go to a club and expect to play as the main ruckmen every week, but could definitely develop into an excellent player

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Paddy makes our pedestrian midfield look much better when he plays. Marshall is good at taking the ball out of the ruck himself but his tap work is just okay. I see Chol as more a Marshall than a Paddy so am looking at guys with size and tap work. I think we will be having a look at Flynn ad Briggs types to try to get a proper ruck in.

As you said if King comes next year I think one has to do some back up ruck so Chol probably doesn't play.

heath will be the tap guy. young enough to learn and seems to have decent ruck craft already

 

[Premium]

I hope we don't hear the term 'break in case of emergency' next year - lol

At 23 Chol will still be getting better. Could very well be a very good consistent player by the time his is 25/26 and can fill in better the Hunter or Smack did this year. Wonder if he could play chb?

It's really an ideal situation - more than capable of coming in and playing a role well. Probably not good enough to go to a club and expect to play as the main ruckmen every week, but could definitely develop into an excellent player

Richmond probably expect Chol to leave having him on the rookie list so long he will be looking for some coin and being 25yr old next year he would be wanting to play more than 10 games like he did this year.
Having Reiwoldt , Lynch , Coleman - Jones , Soldo and Nank , Chol is just a spare we needed.
But it will be interested who gets him because a few clubs would want him and the Suns would love him.

 

[Joffaboy]

so was Brendan Goddard....

Different situation completely.

 

[Premium]

I hope we don't hear the term 'break in case of emergency' next year - lol

At 23 Chol will still be getting better. Could very well be a very good consistent player by the time his is 25/26 and can fill in better the Hunter or Smack did this year. Wonder if he could play chb?

It's really an ideal situation - more than capable of coming in and playing a role well. Probably not good enough to go to a club and expect to play as the main ruckmen every week, but could definitely develop into an excellent player

Mabior Chol
#41 Richmond Tigers
Age: 24yr 7mth Games: 31 Born: January 29, 1997 Origin: Aspley
Height: 200cm Weight: 91kg Position: Forward, Ruck
Last Drafted: Round 3, Pick #45 2018 Rookie Draft by Richmond Tigers
Supercoach Price: $315,600 Supercoach Profile
AFL Fantasy Price: $405,000 AFL Fantasy Profile
Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2021 AFL Player Contracts

He is going on 25 by this//////

 

[Veer Right]

If Bing re-signs at GC next year would we consider directing that money towards Brodie Grundy? Currently 27 and contracted until 2027. Pies maybe willing to trade him cheaply given their reported salary cap issues and the fact that they wont be contending for a few years

Massively overrated unless you got him for SC. I focus watched him a number of times and he doesn't hurt the opposition even with him 50 odd, tap out games. Nic Nat and him are polar opposites for effectiveness.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Anyone good will go to a club where they can be first or second in line, not a club where they'll be likely to play 10 games or so as third-string. That's a role for an ageing journeyman, a good VFL trier, or a developing youngster.

Michael Rix is still only 40 years of age so should now be coming into his prime

 

[Pardon me]

Michael Rix is still only 40 years of age so should now be coming into his prime

Geelong Cats likes this.

 

[Jay Beast]

Mabior Chol
#41 Richmond Tigers
Age: 24yr 7mth Games: 31 Born: January 29, 1997 Origin: Aspley
Height: 200cm Weight: 91kg Position: Forward, Ruck
Last Drafted: Round 3, Pick #45 2018 Rookie Draft by Richmond Tigers
Supercoach Price: $315,600 Supercoach Profile
AFL Fantasy Price: $405,000 AFL Fantasy Profile
Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2021 AFL Player Contracts

He is going on 25 by this//////

He is a definite upgrade on both McKernan & PHunter.
Get him in I say!

 

[Premium]

He is a definite upgrade on both McKernan & PHunter.
Get him in I say!

We have picked up some good players from the Tigers and he would be another , given a good crack at it he would be a handy player.
But I feel he will be looking at length of contract and money and the club that offers him the best deal will most probably get him , atm by the looks we are looking at a few - McLean , Cox and most probably Chol , Flynn , Meek , Lynch etc.

 

[OxSaint]

He has a 1yr contract I think. Bit early to get rid of him yet though, still rucks pretty well when he is out there.

I am not talking preference. Just making an observation that nothing has been official. Will be hard to lure a ready made replacement ruck this year with Ryder on the books. If we like one available this year do you let paddy go to get them in, or do you roll the dice on what’s available next year?

 

[Premium]

I am not talking preference. Just making an observation that nothing has been official. Will be hard to lure a ready made replacement ruck this year with Ryder on the books. If we like one available this year do you let paddy go to get them in, or do you roll the dice on what’s available next year?

There is no ready made ruck that is get-table to replace Ryder , but we need the best available that is going to cost us nothing trade wise because we have nothing.
It has to be remembered Port had basically written Paddy off when they picked Lycett from the WCE and they also had Ladhams , thinking his Achilles problems made him a a risk of getting through a full season , roll on 3 yrs later and we surely can't expect him to get through a whole season when he only played 12 this year and was having problems at the end of this season, same as the season before.
Ryder is a star but every game he plays next year will be a bonus and he is one injury away from retirement , he breaks down in pre-season all we will have Marshall and we can't afford going into the first few games like we did with a witches hat as a ruck for the first few games and we were lucky Marshall came back early , but clearly under done.
If they can't find a guy that can at least contest better than Hunter or McKernan they have failed this trade period imo.

 

[Joffaboy]

RIX ROX RUX

 

[Spider Eater]

I may be in the minority here but I like the sound of Steele Battle Cox.

 

[StCicatriz]

Parker has resigned for 4 years at Sydney. Good to put that to rest.

will be interesting to see how sydney manages their cap

 

[StCicatriz]

I guess Nathan VARDY has been rejected by everyone here? I just noticed yesterday that Eagles cant fit himn in the cap had to let him go. Already been talked about??? Sorry if so! Is he any good for our purposes? He does have injury cloud so he'd fit right in!

i mentioned him a couple weeks back. WCE sounded keen to keep him around. he's at the age now where moving back to victoria makes sense. it'd also make sense for him to get a season more if he can to help the relocation. he wouldn't be expecting to be first ruck, i reckon he'd be happy just to be on a list, as long as the money is right.

he'd be a perfect fit for us. we don't need someone who's going to play a full season. we need someone who can be an insurance policy on paddy and marshall. vardy can play fwd and in the ruck. yes he's injury prone, but he's capable of 5-10 games a season.

he's be absolutely a HUGE improvement on hunter.

vardy is also pretty well liked from memory. would be good for some of the younger guys. he would be a good shield for Max Heath over the next 12 months.

 

[SaintSteele9]

will be interesting to see how sydney manages their cap

Interesting one for sure, but surely getting a little thrifty on your BnF winning co-captain wasn’t ever going to be a realistic outcome either

 

[saint_]

Curious to know if St.Kilda will make a play for another contracted player this trade period. Hannebery in 2018, Hill in 2019 and Higgins in 2020. All contracted before moving to the Saints.

 

[StCicatriz]

Interesting one for sure, but surely getting a little thrifty on your BnF winning co-captain wasn’t ever going to be a realistic outcome either

i hear Sydney wanted to extend Buddy's contract as a way of smoothing it over in the final years when he gets paid the most, given it was back ended.

only problem is the AFL stepped it and wouldn't allow it, as it means they manipulated the draft, as that large contract was the only reason hawthorn couldnt match.

if they aint losing a handful of players, something sus is going on.

 

[CursingFijian]

Our chants suck as is. If we sign him and i hear blokes chanting 'usa' ill hand my membership in.
Can't deal with more cringe

Shhtick it to 'em shlong

 

[Saint_Dos]

i hear Sydney wanted to extend Buddy's contract as a way of smoothing it over in the final years when he gets paid the most, given it was back ended.

only problem is the AFL stepped it and wouldn't allow it, as it means they manipulated the draft, as that large contract was the only reason hawthorn couldnt match.

if they aint losing a handful of players, something sus is going on.

Few mentioned here

Sam Edmund's trade update on Tom Mitchell, Sydney and Dylan Shiel rumours

The latest trade news ahead of the trade period.

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Sydney

“Sydney is trying to re-sign Luke Parker, Dylan Stephens, Jordan Dawson, Sam Reid, Matthew Ling, Callum Sinclair, Hayden McLean, Ben Ronke and others.”

“Sam Wicks has a two-year offer on the table, hasn’t signed, Robbie Fox has a one-year offer on the table, hasn’t signed, Jordan Dawson told us here on SEN that Swans fans had nothing to worry about a couple of months ago, he hasn’t seen a contract that he likes at this point.

“Dylan Stephens, rival clubs have been asked if they’re interested in him because the two-year offer for him doesn’t have him doing cartwheels.

“Other clubs say that the Swans would be more open to Dylan Stephens leaving than perhaps most of the others. The Swans do want to keep him, but at this stage won’t be cracking the piggy bank to make it happen.

“George Hewett has been well paid, hence why he is a restricted free agent, we revealed he was on the trade table for a time last year, he is very likely to move this year and very likely to be at Carlton. Sydney has shown zero interest in re-signing him at this stage and that’s unlikely to change."

 

[CursingFijian]

That was a great write up by Landsberger.

37. LEO CONNOLLY. Age: 20 Games: 7 Status: Signed to 2023
How many AFL players have taken a running bounce before they’ve ever recorded a disposal? This bloke has, and that skill and composure is exactly what Saints fans have been starved of. Since that maiden moment, Connolly has taken six more bounces and signed a new contract.

Couldn't help smiling while reading his take on Leo Connolly.