List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[bergholt]

We’re looking for a number 1 ruck with at least 5 years of footy left in him. Looking at every clubs ruck stocks to see what we may shake loose. If that fails then we will sign best available to a short term contract and look again next year. The club is worried we only have one AFL standard ruck on our list who has at the most 15 games left in his career.

Yeah interesting.

Adelaide: O'Brien, Strachan
Brisbane: McInerney, Fullarton, A Smith
Carlton: Pittonet, De Koning
Collingwood: Grundy, Cameron, Cox, Lynch
Essendon: Draper, Wright, Phillips, Bryan
Fremantle: Darcy, Meek
Geelong: Stanley, Ratugolea, Blicavs, Fort
Gold Coast: Witts, Z Smith, Moyle
GWS: Mumford, Preuss, Flynn, Briggs
Hawthorn: McEvoy, Ceglar, Reeves
Melbourne: Gawn, Jackson
North Melbourne: Goldstein, Campbell, Xerri, Edwards
Port Adelaide: Lycett, Ladhams, Hayes
Richmond: Nankervis, Chol, Ryan
Sydney: Hickey, Naismith, McLean, Sinclair
West Coast: Naitanui, Vardy, Williams, Jamieson
Western Bulldogs: English, Martin, Sweet

Can't see many who fit that category who are also gettable. I'm sure we could end up with someone the calibre of Archie Smith, Mason Cox, Andrew Phillips, Darcy Fort, Zac Smith, Callum Sinclair. Not sure any of them would be worth the effort vs Hunter though.

Best we could get I reckon would be Pittonet or Ceglar calibre - which is to say not that great - but even those guys only by overpaying significantly.

Can't see a lot of gettable ones that are going to magically make us better there.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Yeah interesting.

Adelaide: O'Brien, Strachan
Brisbane: McInerney, Fullarton, A Smith
Carlton: Pittonet, De Koning
Collingwood: Grundy, Cameron, Cox, Lynch
Essendon: Draper, Wright, Phillips, Bryan
Fremantle: Darcy, Meek
Geelong: Stanley, Ratugolea, Blicavs, Fort
Gold Coast: Witts, Z Smith, Moyle
GWS: Mumford, Preuss, Flynn, Briggs
Hawthorn: McEvoy, Ceglar, Reeves
Melbourne: Gawn, Jackson
North Melbourne: Goldstein, Campbell, Xerri, Edwards
Port Adelaide: Lycett, Ladhams, Hayes
Richmond: Nankervis, Chol, Ryan
Sydney: Hickey, Naismith, McLean, Sinclair
West Coast: Naitanui, Vardy, Williams, Jamieson
Western Bulldogs: English, Martin, Sweet

Can't see many who fit that category who are also gettable. I'm sure we could end up with someone the calibre of Archie Smith, Mason Cox, Andrew Phillips, Darcy Fort, Zac Smith, Callum Sinclair. Not sure any of them would be worth the effort vs Hunter though.

Best we could get I reckon would be Pittonet or Ceglar calibre - which is to say not that great - but even those guys only by overpaying significantly.

Can't see a lot of gettable ones that are going to magically make us better there.

Didn’t someone mention Ladhams at one stage?
Or maybe it was just their wishful thinking?

 

[BrutThough]

Yeah interesting.

Adelaide: O'Brien, Strachan
Brisbane: McInerney, Fullarton, A Smith
Carlton: Pittonet, De Koning
Collingwood: Grundy, Cameron, Cox, Lynch
Essendon: Draper, Wright, Phillips, Bryan
Fremantle: Darcy, Meek
Geelong: Stanley, Ratugolea, Blicavs, Fort
Gold Coast: Witts, Z Smith, Moyle
GWS: Mumford, Preuss, Flynn, Briggs
Hawthorn: McEvoy, Ceglar, Reeves
Melbourne: Gawn, Jackson
North Melbourne: Goldstein, Campbell, Xerri, Edwards
Port Adelaide: Lycett, Ladhams, Hayes
Richmond: Nankervis, Chol, Ryan
Sydney: Hickey, Naismith, McLean, Sinclair
West Coast: Naitanui, Vardy, Williams, Jamieson
Western Bulldogs: English, Martin, Sweet

Can't see many who fit that category who are also gettable. I'm sure we could end up with someone the calibre of Archie Smith, Mason Cox, Andrew Phillips, Darcy Fort, Zac Smith, Callum Sinclair. Not sure any of them would be worth the effort vs Hunter though.

Best we could get I reckon would be Pittonet or Ceglar calibre - which is to say not that great - but even those guys only by overpaying significantly.

Can't see a lot of gettable ones that are going to magically make us better there.

Marshall is better than most of them. While tap work isn't his strength, the impact he can have on a game with his clearece and around the ground work is one of the best in the comp.

Anyone we get would ideally be back-up only. Unless they have close to Ryder's level of tap work, we are better playing Marshall alone.

 

[CursingFijian]

For me
It’s Hayden McLean
Or Matt Flynn as a second ruck
swans will try to move on Reid but no one will want him

I was pretty impressed by what I saw from Flynn, can't see the giants letting him go though.

Mabior Chol is more than capable of backing Paddy Ryder up. Plays with good energy after the hitout I think he would offer a bit in the middle in terms of run and carry from congestion.

Nick Bryan at Essendon and Darcy Fort at Geelong might might be receptive to an approach.

 

[PandaG]

I was pretty impressed by what I saw from Flynn, can't see the giants letting him go though.

Mabior Chol is more than capable of backing Paddy Ryder up. Plays with good energy after the hitout I think he would offer a bit in the middle in terms of run and carry from congestion.

Nick Bryan at Essendon and Darcy Fort at Geelong might might be receptive to an approach.

I have heard nick bryan might be looking elsewhere but has a contract until 2023.
I would be happy with McLean

just not sure chol would be keen on us u less we pay a little overs which I’m not sure he is worth.
McLean was impressive at swans. Should be looked at, he would come, swans only offering a Mars bar, can of coke and 3 licorice straps

 

[JediSaint]

Given his age and attributes, he can a) Learn from Paddy and really improve his ruck work, or b) Potentially play at CHB.....I understand its a bit of a gamble, and I concede, I haven't see enough of him to know if its even a possibility, but it may just be worth a crack. He could rotate ruck/fwd/CHB for a few years until Heath is ready and then settle in at CHB?

This is exactly what we need to do and Chol would fit in the team really well.
SIGN HIM UP!!!!!

 

[JediSaint]

Obviously it's only one contest but big boy made to look pretty average there

WOnder then with his athletic ability how would he look as KPD with a pinch Ruck role

 

[JediSaint]

i hear Sydney wanted to extend Buddy's contract as a way of smoothing it over in the final years when he gets paid the most, given it was back ended.

only problem is the AFL stepped it and wouldn't allow it, as it means they manipulated the draft, as that large contract was the only reason hawthorn couldnt match.

if they aint losing a handful of players, something sus is going on.

Will be really interesting after they gave Parker what he wanted

 

[CursingFijian]

Wait. Has the dream ended?

 

[saintsrfreak]

Yeah interesting.

Adelaide: O'Brien, Strachan
Brisbane: McInerney, Fullarton, A Smith
Carlton: Pittonet, De Koning
Collingwood: Grundy, Cameron, Cox, Lynch
Essendon: Draper, Wright, Phillips, Bryan
Fremantle: Darcy, Meek
Geelong: Stanley, Ratugolea, Blicavs, Fort
Gold Coast: Witts, Z Smith, Moyle
GWS: Mumford, Preuss, Flynn, Briggs
Hawthorn: McEvoy, Ceglar, Reeves
Melbourne: Gawn, Jackson
North Melbourne: Goldstein, Campbell, Xerri, Edwards
Port Adelaide: Lycett, Ladhams, Hayes
Richmond: Nankervis, Chol, Ryan
Sydney: Hickey, Naismith, McLean, Sinclair
West Coast: Naitanui, Vardy, Williams, Jamieson
Western Bulldogs: English, Martin, Sweet

Can't see many who fit that category who are also gettable. I'm sure we could end up with someone the calibre of Archie Smith, Mason Cox, Andrew Phillips, Darcy Fort, Zac Smith, Callum Sinclair. Not sure any of them would be worth the effort vs Hunter though.

Best we could get I reckon would be Pittonet or Ceglar calibre - which is to say not that great - but even those guys only by overpaying significantly.

Can't see a lot of gettable ones that are going to magically make us better there.

Would be happy with Strachan, Flynn, Ladhams. All behind in the order at their current clubs, reckon they'd get a #1 ruck gig with us.

 

[Max the great]

actually on Kent in that game. Apparently he had a chat to Bytel and when he found out that he'd never kicked an AFL goal he made it his mission to make sure he set him up for one.

Nice mission. Would prefer he chose the easier mission of putting his body on the line or not been scared of contact.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Nice mission. Would prefer he chose the easier mission of putting his body on the line or not been scared of contact.

Showed leadership for me

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Would be happy with Strachan, Flynn, Ladhams. All behind in the order at their current clubs, reckon they'd get a #1 ruck gig with us.

Paddy left after Ladhams and Lycett kept him out of the 22. A couple years later Ladhams following him down would be amusing

 

[Drop Kick]

I see Luke Dunstan is no longer "de-listed" according to the AFL website.

Is it just me or is lockdown doing my head in - surely there were heaps of de-listings at this stage of the season last year.

I can't believe that a dozen clubs have done exit interviews and sent players off for the break and we have a handful of players across the comp currently having been de-listed.

I read clubs are waiting for 2022 list details from the AFL before they get into announcing delistings. I don't know if the 2022 salary cap has been announced by the AFL yet either.

The AFL need to get their shite sorted and keep us entertained with the off season shenanigans.

 

[Drop Kick]

In today's game if a team has to deal with a big forward they will always attempt to double team the player , if the team has multiply tall forwards it them becomes a problem.
Then again a guy like Buddy Franklin is not a big pack mark so you can get away with playing a guy like Wilkie on him which we did and he did well on him.

We don't want to be left in a situation where you go into a game like Port and have only one tall back because if he goes down and Georgiades is clearly beating Wilkie (until he came off with a injury) you can be totally exposed , with them having Todd Marshall close to 2m running around the forward line as well.

What if Howard gets injured, then we'll have No really tall KPD's to play on the Gorilla's, they need to keep Clav as depth, i think, unless they draft a Talia or Blake Schlensog, for example.

 

[Significant]

Surely one of Briggs or Flynn will leave GWS, with Preuss sitting there as the logical first choice ruckman. I would be working hard on both sides, both are AFL Quality.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Surely one of Briggs or Flynn will leave GWS, with Preuss sitting there as the logical first choice ruckman. I would be working hard on both sides, both are AFL Quality.

Or maybe they ship Preuss down to us after realising they have some good young talent. Preuss is more than capable, has played third in line his whole career and is old enough to not be a threat to Heath’s development

 

[saintsrfreak]

Or maybe they ship Preuss down to us after realising they have some good young talent. Preuss is more than capable, has played third in line his whole career and is old enough to not be a threat to Heath’s development

Isn't he on good money?

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Isn't he on good money?

No clue. Nvm if he is

 

[tomjoad]

What if Howard gets injured, then we'll have No really tall KPD's to play on the Gorilla's, they need to keep Clav as depth, i think, unless they draft a Talia or Blake Schlensog, for example.

And I'd still keep Clav regardless. I think he'd be capable if given a block of games.

 

[bergholt]

Darcy Fort at Geelong might might be receptive to an approach.

Fort is 28, I wonder if that's a bit old for us?

 

[Chef Ratts]

Ruckman Paddy Ryder will soon sign a one-year deal, while Category B ruckman Sam Alabakis has been delisted. – Mitch Cleary

 

[BrutThough]

Ruckman Paddy Ryder will soon sign a one-year deal, while Category B ruckman Sam Alabakis has been delisted. – Mitch Cleary

Good to see Ryder will sign for 1 more year. And obvious the Alabakis experiment was over.

We can now add up to 2 of the NGA guys who get undrafted to the Cat B list or bring in another international experiment.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Good to see Ryder will sign for 1 more year. And obvious the Alabakis experiment was over.

We can now add up to 2 of the NGA guys who get undrafted to the Cat B list or bring in another international experiment.

So now we have Ryder, Marshall and Max Heath in development for the year.

Its clear we are looking for another ruck forward so PHunter will have to wait to see how that plays out.

 

[Goddardwetrust]

I see Melbourne are looking at Cerro, as well as Carlton.

Don't these teams have a salary cap?