Analysis 2021 trade thread

[martinson]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I belive Danny Daly mentioned Fort coming here on a 3 year deal, what’s everyone’s thoughts on that? If list sizes go back up I can’t see it being much of an issue but if they remain the same I can’t see all of Fort, Fullarton, Lane and H. Smith being here in 3 years.

Correct.

So obviously they have something in mind with one or two of the other 3.

 

[mattsmob]

Did I miss hear Daly on the Roar Deal today, or did he say the club hopes to be a more active player in the trade period next year?

There’s this tall defender at Collingwood I like…

Yeah I heard that as well but where is the money coming from next season that isn’t here this season?

 

[MacMum]

Maybe it is but being careful and didn't want to spend it, keep it for when we really need it, like next year.

 

[dlanod]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I belive Danny Daly mentioned Fort coming here on a 3 year deal, what’s everyone’s thoughts on that? If list sizes go back up I can’t see it being much of an issue but if they remain the same I can’t see all of Fort, Fullarton, Lane and H. Smith being here in 3 years.

Three of those are still very much projects. I don't know about you but I rarely got 100% on projects - if two out of those three became AFL standard players that will still be a big win. One out of three, given where we got each (basketball, mid-season rookie, and late draft pick), is much more likely.

 

[Dalions]

Correct.

So obviously they have something in mind with one or two of the other 3.

Development!

 

[Damo T]

Yeah I heard that as well but where is the money coming from next season that isn’t here this season?

Neale ????

 

[SRH17]

Neale ????

Gee you have started that up again early.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Three of those are still very much projects. I don't know about you but I rarely got 100% on projects - if two out of those three became AFL standard players that will still be a big win. One out of three, given where we got each (basketball, mid-season rookie, and late draft pick), is much more likely.

O out of 3 probably even more likely.

 

[Brizzys Squizzy]

Yeah I heard that as well but where is the money coming from next season that isn’t here this season?

Mitch Robbo unfortunately will be gone which will free up a bit if cash, plus the usual fringe players that go every year. Plus whatever we have tucked away secretly from this year.

 

[dlanod]

Yeah I heard that as well but where is the money coming from next season that isn’t here this season?

Some of these guys probably, either by delisting or smaller contracts on the rear of their career.

2022:
Darcy Gardiner
Thomas Berry
Noah Answerth
Daniel McStay
Cam Ellis-Yolman
Ely Smith
Nakia Cockatoo
Deven Robertson
Jaxon Prior
Ryan Lester
Deividas Uosis (R)
Blake Coleman
Henry Smith
Daniel Rich
Dayne Zorko
Carter Michael (R)
Connor McFadyen
Mitch Robinson
Keidean Coleman
Tom Fullarton
Kalin Lane (R)

Half our list off contract next year. I wonder if they've planned this over the last 12 months to ensure we have lots of picks to be able to match bids with low picks...

 

[Mighty Lions]

And if list sizes weren't reduced he'd be a decent chance of keeping his spot

Not too sure about that but it would be good if you are right as it would probably mean he would be considered by other clubs should he be let go by the Lions.

 

[Mighty Lions]

The problem with Ballenden is that he is too damn soft. Very hard to coach that into a player.

See Schache.

agree. you could also argue that Fullerton isn't a lot different when it comes to being soft. Both players need more aggression in their game.

 

[briztoon]

Some of these guys probably, either by delisting or smaller contracts on the rear of their career.

2022:
Darcy Gardiner
Thomas Berry
Noah Answerth
Daniel McStay
Cam Ellis-Yolman
Ely Smith
Nakia Cockatoo
Deven Robertson
Jaxon Prior
Ryan Lester
Deividas Uosis (R)
Blake Coleman
Henry Smith
Daniel Rich
Dayne Zorko
Carter Michael (R)
Connor McFadyen
Mitch Robinson
Keidean Coleman
Tom Fullarton
Kalin Lane (R)

Half our list off contract next year. I wonder if they've planned this over the last 12 months to ensure we have lots of picks to be able to match bids with low picks...

Didn’t Zorko re-sign for two more years?

 

[briztoon]

Didn’t Zorko re-sign for two more years?

Ahh nope, a 1 year extension.

 

[briztoon]

Mitch Robbo unfortunately will be gone which will free up a bit if cash, plus the usual fringe players that go every year. Plus whatever we have tucked away secretly from this year.

Robbo isn’t on big money, or even mid level money. He said on his podcast he’s on role player level money.

 

[dlanod]

Ahh nope, a 1 year extension.

They announced it as "staying for two more years", but it was actually a one year extension on top of being under contract for next year already.

 

[Brizzys Squizzy]

Robbo isn’t on big money, or even mid level money. He said on his podcast he’s on role player level money.

Thought he may have been on low - mid level money, but if we are as tight as everyone says we are every little bit counts.

 

[M Malice]

Some of these guys probably, either by delisting or smaller contracts on the rear of their career.

2022:
Darcy Gardiner
Thomas Berry
Noah Answerth
Daniel McStay
Cam Ellis-Yolman
Ely Smith
Nakia Cockatoo
Deven Robertson
Jaxon Prior
Ryan Lester
Deividas Uosis (R)
Blake Coleman
Henry Smith
Daniel Rich
Dayne Zorko
Carter Michael (R)
Connor McFadyen
Mitch Robinson
Keidean Coleman
Tom Fullarton
Kalin Lane (R)

Half our list off contract next year. I wonder if they've planned this over the last 12 months to ensure we have lots of picks to be able to match bids with low picks...

We need a who is playing for their careers in 2022 thread.

 

[briztoon]

Some of these guys probably, either by delisting or smaller contracts on the rear of their career.

2022:
Darcy Gardiner
Thomas Berry
Noah Answerth
Daniel McStay
Cam Ellis-Yolman
Ely Smith
Nakia Cockatoo
Deven Robertson
Jaxon Prior
Ryan Lester
Deividas Uosis (R)
Blake Coleman
Henry Smith
Daniel Rich
Dayne Zorko
Carter Michael (R)
Connor McFadyen
Mitch Robinson
Keidean Coleman
Tom Fullarton
Kalin Lane (R)

Half our list off contract next year. I wonder if they've planned this over the last 12 months to ensure we have lots of picks to be able to match bids with low picks...

Going to be interesting to watch how we accrue enough second and third round picks.

Our future (2023) picks probably don’t have the same attraction as Collingwood’s future picks had this year.

I’m still keen to trade our 2022 first for a first in 2023, and would have a late second round pick as the buyers premium.

And hopefully can trade our 2023 second round pick for another late 2022 second round pick.

 

[briztoon]

We need a who is playing for their careers in 2022 thread.

I can wait until after the draft for it.

 

[Footytradgic]

O out of 3 probably even more likely.

There is one that is going to be a beast

 

[M Malice]

There is one that is going to be a beast

Henry Smith?

 

[Jivlain]

Yeah I heard that as well but where is the money coming from next season that isn’t here this season?

There's a pretty hefty rise in the salary cap next year. A fair bunch of that will probably be taken up by backloading covid paycuts, but you could probably have arranged some wiggle room in that.

 

[dlanod]

I can wait until after the draft for it.

Given we haven't even seen a preseason yet, I don't see how anyone could make a coherent argument one way or another beyond what everyone already knows.

 

[M Malice]

Given we haven't even seen a preseason yet, I don't see how anyone could make a coherent argument one way or another beyond what everyone already knows.

Hasn't stopped numerous postings and discussions on Big Footy over the years I've been on here.