Analysis 2021 trade thread

[Quigley]

Hi guys, what’s wrong with Brock Smith? I remember he was highly touted as a junior.

He is a nice mover and I think generally a good defensive player although he struggled a bit when forced to play on big forwards later in the year.

The main issue for me is his disposal skills. He looks great (a lot like Hanley actually) but he misses way too many targets and his decision making it below what it should be.

He is unlucky in that his development has really been impacted by CoVid and even this year when there were games he did not get to play in his preferred position. He has also been unlucky with the reduction in list sizes and the numbers of guys already contracted. He just looks the most obvious delisting unfortunately.

 

[ZoBlitz]

The fact someone pays Barrett to write that column surprises me almost as much as anyone who reads it.

 

[Tom14]

The fact someone pays Barrett to write that column surprises me almost as much as anyone who reads it.

Not to mention that despite roughly 10 years of writing that column and he still doesn't understand the central plot device of Sliding Doors!

 

[Tom14]

FWIW Ryan Daniels mentioned in his podcast that he wouldn't be shocked if the Neale situation was quietly revisited at the end of trade period. But he said he will be staying away from it and not report on it.

 

[Dalions]

Damien suggesting in his "if n then"column on AFL.com that Neale to Freeo is not over and could happen in the dying minutes of the trade period.....interesting.

Ryan Daniels who broke the story in the first place said the same thing on the Hard Ball Gets podcast this week too. But it didn’t come from any knowledge of it actually being a possibility just that he wouldn’t be surprised.
Damien probably listened to the show and just wants to stir up shit.

 

[Jivlain]

FWIW Ryan Daniels mentioned in his podcast that he wouldn't be shocked if the Neale situation was quietly revisited at the end of trade period. But he said he will be staying away from it and not report on it.

I very much doubt that it will be revisited in a quiet manner

 

[Chrispiesssss]

He is a nice mover and I think generally a good defensive player although he struggled a bit when forced to play on big forwards later in the year.

The main issue for me is his disposal skills. He looks great (a lot like Hanley actually) but he misses way too many targets and his decision making it below what it should be.

He is unlucky in that his development has really been impacted by CoVid and even this year when there were games he did not get to play in his preferred position. He has also been unlucky with the reduction in list sizes and the numbers of guys already contracted. He just looks the most obvious delisting unfortunately.

That’s interesting. Im a big believer in that you can train players to take safer options. The hard stuff is the intercepting and defending your opponent.


Hopefully his kicking isn’t horrid. I wouldn’t mind the pies rooking him, if delisted by the Lions.

 

[Quigley]

That’s interesting. Im a big believer in that you can train players to take safer options. The hard stuff is the intercepting and defending your opponent.


Hopefully his kicking isn’t horrid. I wouldn’t mind the pies rooking him, if delisted by the Lions.

Early in the year it looked like he had been working on his kicking a lot and I was impressed for the first couple of games. It did seem to regress over the year though as injuries hit and the VFL team got worse across the board. In the back half of the year his kicking was very ordinary.

 

[bungalow_bill]

The statement from Neale made sense to take the media pressure (social and mainstream) off him and his wife. I won't be fully convinced he's staying until after the trade period ends.

IF he still had a desire to move this would make sense. Do everything quietly in the background without the intense pressure.

 

[Clarkythelion]

The fact someone pays Barrett to write that column surprises me almost as much as anyone who reads it.

Like any reporter they know how to get 'clicks' and people reading their articles mean advertising $ for their sponsors. The Neale story will continue to have interest for 2 years at least and he knows if he drags that 'old chestnut' out everyone and then he gets readers.

 

[M Malice]

The only way I could see a Lachie Neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

33

Ht

177cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

trade happening now is if it's an unbelievably good offer eg. The Dockers come to the Lions late and say we'll give you Andrew Brayshaw

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Andrew Brayshaw

Age

26

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.3

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.1

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.1

4star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

and pick 8 for Lachie.

 

[jasonrampage2010]

The only way I could see a Lachie Neale trade happening now is if it's an unbelievably good offer eg. The Dockers come to the Lions late and say we'll give you Andrew Brayshaw and pick 8 for Lachie.

Yeah and grizzly Adam’s had a beard

 

[briztoon]

The only way I could see a Lachie Neale trade happening now is if it's an unbelievably good offer eg. The Dockers come to the Lions late and say we'll give you Andrew Brayshaw and pick 8 for Lachie.

Nah.

Neale to Dockers, Cerra to Melbourne, Jackson to the Lions.

 

[Mavlions1961]

Nah.

Neale to Dockers, Cerra to Melbourne, Jackson to the Lions.

It’s good to dream


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[mpal6]

Lightning quick? Pin point kicking? First round pick but career ruined by injuries so far and delisted now?

You sound like our kind of player - come on down for a rookie pick Matthew Ling.

 

[briztoon]

Lightning quick? Pin point kicking? First round pick but career ruined by injuries so far and delisted now?

You sound like our kind of player - come on down for a rookie pick Matthew Ling.

What we’re his injuries. He’s a very, very outside mid.

 

[mpal6]

What we’re his injuries. He’s a very, very outside mid.

Toe and Achilles by the looks. Speedy defender when drafted.

Three years on, Swans' forgotten first-round pick will debut

Speedy defender Matthew Ling will play his first AFL game on Saturday, having overcome a torrid run of injuries

www.afl.com.au

 

[RegionalLion]

No basis but for some reason I was thinking along these lines with Neale. Is it a smokescreen to make Fremantle cough up more as they know he wants to go home but also wants to stay at the lions. If he is wanting home, and being a new parent next year that desire will grow, and if it’s this year or next this year is more beneficial to the club one would think. But it’s not something our current administration is known for they usually seem like pretty straight shooters and the team is better with Neale in it so hopefully it is all straight ahead go and Lachie lines up for us next year.

 

[Sanchez365]

The issue with Neale always seemed that a deal going down to the wire with Freo would mean we have no ability to then turn that capital into something else. With our current list squeeze we can't really turn Neale into multiple picks and being in our window don't want to turn him into a 18 year old.

I wouldnt be surprised if we had created a list of targets and had started calling around the afl one after the other to see how we could replace him.

There will be alot more smoke if we get linked so someone good a bit more seriously.

 

[mpal6]

No basis but for some reason I was thinking along these lines with Neale. Is it a smokescreen to make Fremantle cough up more as they know he wants to go home but also wants to stay at the lions. If he is wanting home, and being a new parent next year that desire will grow, and if it’s this year or next this year is more beneficial to the club one would think. But it’s not something our current administration is known for they usually seem like pretty straight shooters and the team is better with Neale in it so hopefully it is all straight ahead go and Lachie lines up for us next year.

I feel its the other way around where the news got leaked in WA both to force the conversation as well as test how strong is Neale's resolve to get back.

May be no one was prepared for the circus that followed and all involved may have panicked and backed off.

 

[BangyBangy]

Yeah and grizzly Adam’s had a beard

Anyone? Or am I just derailing the thread?

 

[BangyBangy]

No basis but for some reason I was thinking along these lines with Neale. Is it a smokescreen to make Fremantle cough up more as they know he wants to go home but also wants to stay at the lions. If he is wanting home, and being a new parent next year that desire will grow, and if it’s this year or next this year is more beneficial to the club one would think. But it’s not something our current administration is known for they usually seem like pretty straight shooters and the team is better with Neale in it so hopefully it is all straight ahead go and Lachie lines up for us next year.

Won't be a smokescreen to make Freo cough up more. If a trade happens with two years to run on a contract it will be on terms that both parties are happy with.

More than anything it was probably to stop the media pile on that was pretty full on towards Lachie & Jules. Nothing is really gained by all that stuff in the media so far out from trade week.

 

[Section 5]

Neale is not going anywhere this year other than to get a Covid shot or two
No point in announcing to the AFL world you are staying and then changing your mind
He was given an opportunity to state his intentions so both clubs had time to find solutions to such a request
He has done so and will be a Lion next year
However 2023 is a different matter depending how covid affects next season
Hopefully interstate travel is back to sort of normal by Feb 2022

 

[Monkey Daniel]

Toe and Achilles by the looks. Speedy defender when drafted.

Three years on, Swans' forgotten first-round pick will debut

Speedy defender Matthew Ling will play his first AFL game on Saturday, having overcome a torrid run of injuries

www.afl.com.au

Lock down small defender and did an ankle earlier this year too
Very unlucky run of injuries, together with Covid, lockdowns interfering with Reserves matches, he never got a good go of it. After getting over his foot/toe injury he was heading in the right direction, bent down at training to pick up a ball and did his Achilles.

 

[briztoon]

No basis but for some reason I was thinking along these lines with Neale. Is it a smokescreen to make Fremantle cough up more as they know he wants to go home but also wants to stay at the lions. If he is wanting home, and being a new parent next year that desire will grow, and if it’s this year or next this year is more beneficial to the club one would think. But it’s not something our current administration is known for they usually seem like pretty straight shooters and the team is better with Neale in it so hopefully it is all straight ahead go and Lachie lines up for us next year.

Neale, or more to the point the trade cost of Neale, doesn’t fit with Fremantle’s current time line.

Fremantle aren’t trying to win now, they’re trying to win in the future, and they still need to build their forward line.